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Quote from bludicka on May 21, 2019, 10:14 pm

I took DIM and indole-3-carbinol a few years ago for estrogen dominance, then later broccoli sprouts - one tablespoon daily.

Me too.  I am currently taking it.  It is one of the few supplements I take as it really helps with my menstrual cycle.

Quote from tim on May 20, 2019, 4:07 pm

Haha yeah I can understand why many go that way.

I think a spoonful of sauerkraut is probably ok but I think the cauliflower rice crowd are probably overdoing it a little!

While I'm on the topic of thiocyanate it's worth pointing out that almonds will give you a decent dose as well if you eat more than a couple. I've been happily downing copious amounts of almond milk since going low A. This is probably a bad idea even if one has adequate iodine in ones diet.

Tim, I had the worst reaction after eating cauliflower for dinner for the first time for this no A diet.  The head effect that it had was almost like a headache/anxiety attack.   Felt like I wasn’t gonna make it honestly.  One time was enough.  Can’t be 100 percent sure that it was the cauliflower but it didn’t happen like that again and I don’t want to try it again to find out.  Also second hand smoke burns and inflamed my lungs. 

I ate a lot of almonds walnuts the past year and then when I took concentrated iodine drops I had the worst constipation for 5 weeks, couldn’t go on my own. I also starting eating lots of grapes prior to the constipation as well, that might have had an effect. Just can’t say for sure without further trials but just throwing it out there....

@john

The thiocyanates in cauliflower are likely a problem for people with existing thyroid problems. I think healthy people are affected too but hard to know how badly. Cassava/tapioca is a staple in many countries and it is full of goitrogens, yet many people eating it are healthy.

Cauliflower also high in formaldehyde & sulfur metabolites. Both could compromise the alcohol dehydrogenase enzymes that VA needs to use to turn retinaldehyde to retinoic acid to get it out of the body. It might be low VA but it’s got lots of bad things going for it sadly. I’ve been eating loads. Probably not the best idea. Everything in moderation. 

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Quote from tim on October 14, 2019, 6:08 am

@john

The thiocyanates in cauliflower are likely a problem for people with existing thyroid problems. I think healthy people are affected too but hard to know how badly. Cassava/tapioca is a staple in many countries and it is full of goitrogens, yet many people eating it are healthy.

Very interesting Tim, 

The list of foods high in goitrogens/thiocyanates are also high in thiols, which are bad for mercury toxic people.  Sounds like Thio-cyanates is related to thiols?

Bok choy and cauliflower seems to do a number on me but not so much broccoli and Brussels sprouts.  

I know Im very likely mercury toxic from 8 amalgams over 35 years...

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/goitrogens-in-foods#section5

Thanks for sharing. The more reason  to increase my iodine uptake avoid those vegetables and fruits high in goitrogens.

 

 

 

 

Most plant foods (except for most fruits) are toxic, that's why they were tradtionally prepared in certain ways to make them more agreeable and less toxic. 

From what I've heard goitrogens are destroyed by extended cooking, if you boil your cauliflower for about 40 minutes it shouldn't be a problem. 

Hi @john

I don't know anything about thiols.

Pretty sure mercury competes with selenium so selenium and iodine are likely helpful. You have to be very careful supplementing with them though, I would personally avoid it. Iodized salt has small amounts of iodine so is fine though.

Quote from tim on October 14, 2019, 5:42 pm

Hi @john

I don't know anything about thiols.

Pretty sure mercury competes with selenium so selenium and iodine are likely helpful. You have to be very careful supplementing with them though, I would personally avoid it. Iodized salt has small amounts of iodine so is fine though.

I took concentrated iodine a few times 1333% Daily value. Which I got from Infowars, (Alex Jones) saying it was ok.   Then I had the most severe constipation for 5 weeks.  May have contributed but I was doing a lot of diff things at the time. 

I’ve just been using those iodized salt packages at the casinos now. And just bought some iodized sea salt from Whole Foods. 

I may want to add selenium to see if it helps, along with magnesium , fish oil, real vitamin C, and saunas to help counteract the effects of EMF’s ok VGCC’s.  Oh and avoid those goitrogen foods.  

The journey continues....

 

Thank you 

 

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DHA/EPA is more prone to rancidity than even LA in vege oils. Fish oil is really nasty stuff. Low VA low mercury seafood like squid supplies iodine, selenium and DHA in a healthy package though so is a good idea.

Vitamin C is an unwise supplement to take IMO. As I pointed out in another thread it increases production and absorption of oxalates in the body. There are also unnatural molecular configurations in Chinese Vit C. You don't need to go over the RDA with Vitamin C unless you are a smoker.

Saunas will lower testosterone and kill sperm due to the heats effect on the testicles. They will also deplete you of nutrients like Magnesium.

@tim

i guess I’ll stick to vitamin C from fruits and add calamari.  

I’m not too sure about sauna, there are conflicting results out there.  One says it increases testosterone.  I’ve been doing it the last couple weeks 2 or 3 times a week and feel like it’s helping overall, but don’t know how that is effecting my T levels or sperm. 

I only in there for 15 minutes a session though. 

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