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Do we need rice when we've got black beans?
Quote from John on May 22, 2019, 2:48 pmLooking at the nutrition values of rice and black beans, it seems that black beans have everything that rice has but more of it.
Was wondering what rice adds to Grant's no A diet.
Looking at the nutrition values of rice and black beans, it seems that black beans have everything that rice has but more of it.
Was wondering what rice adds to Grant's no A diet.
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 3:56 pmI tried eating only beans as my only source of carbohydrates many moons ago. It gave me migraines.
I tried eating only beans as my only source of carbohydrates many moons ago. It gave me migraines.
Quote from John on May 22, 2019, 4:05 pmQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 3:56 pmI tried eating only beans as my only source of carbohydrates many moons ago. It gave me migraines.
That's interesting. What's your meal consist of now day to day?
I've added beans and rice back , but my hands and feet joints have had some inflammation, as well as my back. The all meat diet seems to clear up alot of things for me but the constipation and maintaining good weight was tough. Although it wasn't the normal dry constipation, I just wasn't going for 3 days or so. Maybe just need to eat twice more the meat. I feel like I'm doing something wrong eating so much meat and only meat. But I felt great relief of symptons. Head clear, didn't feel any swelling of joints...
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 3:56 pmI tried eating only beans as my only source of carbohydrates many moons ago. It gave me migraines.
That's interesting. What's your meal consist of now day to day?
I've added beans and rice back , but my hands and feet joints have had some inflammation, as well as my back. The all meat diet seems to clear up alot of things for me but the constipation and maintaining good weight was tough. Although it wasn't the normal dry constipation, I just wasn't going for 3 days or so. Maybe just need to eat twice more the meat. I feel like I'm doing something wrong eating so much meat and only meat. But I felt great relief of symptons. Head clear, didn't feel any swelling of joints...
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Turtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Quote from Bella on May 22, 2019, 6:28 pmQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Why be careful with beans in celiac if I may ask? I’m genuinely curious!
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Why be careful with beans in celiac if I may ask? I’m genuinely curious!
Quote from bludicka on May 22, 2019, 10:49 pmI do better with garbanzo, yellow split peas and lentils...long soaking and pressure cooker cooking and whole rice I soak 2-3 days, the rice is fermented a little. With damaged gut the beans were for me the most problematic. For people with SIBO can be legumes problematic. Carnivore diet is very close to gaps, scd diet for gut healing - no starches, no grains, only meat and bone broth, meat, eggs, fats and some non starchy vegetables-cauliflower, broccoli, leeks, zucchini. For some people gluten free diet is not enough to heal the intestine, they still respond to some gluten-free grains, can not digest starches, they need for some time gaps, scd, carnivore diet... SIBO must be addressed by treatment - I was doing herbal antibacterial protocols, betain hcl... With vitamin A toxicity my gut got very worse and inflammed - interesting I have no skin problems - the skin is only very dry and has yellow tint, I have cracked heels but the intestine is for me the most problematic, I had burning pains in the gut (gaps, scd didn't help and I have no more SIBO) - this is slowly improving with low vitamin A diet. The paradox is that people on the gaps diet are taking high doses of vitamin A, mothers give the children every day cod liver oil, liver and raw egg yolks, I was in gaps group for some time, they think that all children are vitamin A deficient and need high doses every day. I was taking 4000 IU of vitamin A daily the last three years+vitamin A rich foods - not so super high doses and now I am very toxic... I think I have a vitamin A reserve for the next 10 years.... But I had the same experience with mk-7 vitamin K, I was toxic only after three weeks (daily Jarrow mk-7 90 mcg)...MK7 remains active in the body for several days and therefore, when it’s taken daily, MK7 accumulates to provide a constant reserve of available K2 and some people become toxic quickly. I had heart arrhythmias and palpitations and was feeling very bad. I stopped mk-7 and it was gone in a few days. I find it very interesting, some people tolerate mk-7 without problems, take 100 mcg and more daily for two-three years... and some people have symptoms of toxicity after a few days.
I do better with garbanzo, yellow split peas and lentils...long soaking and pressure cooker cooking and whole rice I soak 2-3 days, the rice is fermented a little. With damaged gut the beans were for me the most problematic. For people with SIBO can be legumes problematic. Carnivore diet is very close to gaps, scd diet for gut healing - no starches, no grains, only meat and bone broth, meat, eggs, fats and some non starchy vegetables-cauliflower, broccoli, leeks, zucchini. For some people gluten free diet is not enough to heal the intestine, they still respond to some gluten-free grains, can not digest starches, they need for some time gaps, scd, carnivore diet... SIBO must be addressed by treatment - I was doing herbal antibacterial protocols, betain hcl... With vitamin A toxicity my gut got very worse and inflammed - interesting I have no skin problems - the skin is only very dry and has yellow tint, I have cracked heels but the intestine is for me the most problematic, I had burning pains in the gut (gaps, scd didn't help and I have no more SIBO) - this is slowly improving with low vitamin A diet. The paradox is that people on the gaps diet are taking high doses of vitamin A, mothers give the children every day cod liver oil, liver and raw egg yolks, I was in gaps group for some time, they think that all children are vitamin A deficient and need high doses every day. I was taking 4000 IU of vitamin A daily the last three years+vitamin A rich foods - not so super high doses and now I am very toxic... I think I have a vitamin A reserve for the next 10 years.... But I had the same experience with mk-7 vitamin K, I was toxic only after three weeks (daily Jarrow mk-7 90 mcg)...MK7 remains active in the body for several days and therefore, when it’s taken daily, MK7 accumulates to provide a constant reserve of available K2 and some people become toxic quickly. I had heart arrhythmias and palpitations and was feeling very bad. I stopped mk-7 and it was gone in a few days. I find it very interesting, some people tolerate mk-7 without problems, take 100 mcg and more daily for two-three years... and some people have symptoms of toxicity after a few days.
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 23, 2019, 3:37 amQuote from Bella on May 22, 2019, 6:28 pmQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Why be careful with beans in celiac if I may ask? I’m genuinely curious!
I think anything that interferes with the integrity of the gut is probably going to expose you to greater risk from things that have a lot of particulate/indigestible components, particularly those that ferment. Complex sugars, endotoxin, allergenic proteins, lectins etc. I'm not sure you want to give any of those free access to your bloodstream.
Quote from Bella on May 22, 2019, 6:28 pmQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Why be careful with beans in celiac if I may ask? I’m genuinely curious!
I think anything that interferes with the integrity of the gut is probably going to expose you to greater risk from things that have a lot of particulate/indigestible components, particularly those that ferment. Complex sugars, endotoxin, allergenic proteins, lectins etc. I'm not sure you want to give any of those free access to your bloodstream.
Quote from Bella on May 23, 2019, 7:59 amQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 23, 2019, 3:37 amQuote from Bella on May 22, 2019, 6:28 pmQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Why be careful with beans in celiac if I may ask? I’m genuinely curious!
I think anything that interferes with the integrity of the gut is probably going to expose you to greater risk from things that have a lot of particulate/indigestible components, particularly those that ferment. Complex sugars, endotoxin, allergenic proteins, lectins etc. I'm not sure you want to give any of those free access to your bloodstream.
Thanks, I agree. I think I was just hoping eventually the gut barrier would repair enough that those things would be okay. Your explanation perfectly matches my experience though. I’m finally trying to come to terms with the reality of a long term restricted diet if I want to maintain my health. I’m done living in denial.
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 23, 2019, 3:37 amQuote from Bella on May 22, 2019, 6:28 pmQuote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 22, 2019, 6:11 pmTurtle beans mess with my stomach, I can't even eat chinese blackbean sauce without a worry. I think that's just me.
Other beans fair better (and I quite like some of them) but I won't eat them to exclusion. Also there are a lot of hypothetical reasons to be cautious of legumes. I think bacterial fermentation might be a good one, and if you have anything like celiac I'd be really careful. Interestingly one of the worse ones for me seems to be lentils, which are often cited as among the most benign.
Why be careful with beans in celiac if I may ask? I’m genuinely curious!
I think anything that interferes with the integrity of the gut is probably going to expose you to greater risk from things that have a lot of particulate/indigestible components, particularly those that ferment. Complex sugars, endotoxin, allergenic proteins, lectins etc. I'm not sure you want to give any of those free access to your bloodstream.
Thanks, I agree. I think I was just hoping eventually the gut barrier would repair enough that those things would be okay. Your explanation perfectly matches my experience though. I’m finally trying to come to terms with the reality of a long term restricted diet if I want to maintain my health. I’m done living in denial.
Quote from SpokilyDoesIt on May 23, 2019, 8:53 amIt does suck. But at least there's always an excuse to eat decent steak. "I'll have the fillet mignon.. Er, for my health you understand..."
It does suck. But at least there's always an excuse to eat decent steak. "I'll have the fillet mignon.. Er, for my health you understand..."
Quote from romaine on May 23, 2019, 10:37 amThanks, I agree. I think I was just hoping eventually the gut barrier would repair enough that those things would be okay. Your explanation perfectly matches my experience though. I’m finally trying to come to terms with the reality of a long term restricted diet if I want to maintain my health. I’m done living in denial.
@Bella I also have celiac so assume I have a damaged gut. Do you think you will ever ease up on holidays and celebrations or when travelling? I don't mind eating really restrictive except on special occasions- I hope all of can have some more freedom when eating one day.
Thanks, I agree. I think I was just hoping eventually the gut barrier would repair enough that those things would be okay. Your explanation perfectly matches my experience though. I’m finally trying to come to terms with the reality of a long term restricted diet if I want to maintain my health. I’m done living in denial.
@Bella I also have celiac so assume I have a damaged gut. Do you think you will ever ease up on holidays and celebrations or when travelling? I don't mind eating really restrictive except on special occasions- I hope all of can have some more freedom when eating one day.