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Dont eat lentils !!! Lutein / zeaxanthin is worse !

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Quote from salt on July 31, 2020, 2:04 pm

I'm happy to hear that you feel better. 

I would stick to black beans (turtle beans) and white beans (white lima, cannelini) only. The other ones have way more carotenoids.

Regarding buckwheat, from what I have read it seems like nearly all whole grain foods have a lot of carotenoids, except for brown rice, and maybe white corn. So I would suggest avoiding whole grain foods in general. It's easy to get deficient in the B-vitamins if you eat a lot of refined grain. Potato is a very good food, it's very nutritious, more nutritious than any whole grain food, and it has nearly no carotenoids especially not the white potatoes (although even the yellow potatoes are relatively low in carotenoids). So if you tolerate potatoes well I think it's a very good staple food. Some people are allergic to the solanine in potatoes.

I think Smith's food recommendations are very sloppy and you shouldn't blindly follow them, however his research is pretty useful.

@salt

Online products that I find , are mostly black soybean, is black soybean same as black turtle beans ?

It appears black soy is not the same as black turtle.

One aspect may be the proteins.  Soy is a complete protein where other legumes might not be.  However, you aren't eating them for protein content, but rather for b-vitiamin content.  My guess is if you look at regular soy on a nutrition chart, it would be similar for black soybean.  It says here and there that that regular soy and black soy are the same except for the outer color.

It doesn't mention it here, and I wonder about estrogenic effects.  I've heard soy has estrogenic effects, but perhaps all legumes do?  I don't know the answer to that.  People used to try to eat soy, for instance, as a menopausal strategy.  I never heard anyone suggest regular beans as a menopausal strategy.  I think most people have realized though, that plant estrogens aren't such a great idea.

 

I could not agree more with this thread on lutein based on my personal experience. Even way before I was aware of vitamin A toxicity I had worked out that lutein was bad for me because all the lutein foods would always and consistently give me eczema. I don't even tolerate oats. Eggs and orange juice were the worst. Great work for finding that lentils have a lot of lutein as the information is not available on many nutrition database websites.

Quote from r on August 31, 2020, 7:37 am
Quote from salt on July 31, 2020, 2:04 pm

I'm happy to hear that you feel better. 

I would stick to black beans (turtle beans) and white beans (white lima, cannelini) only. The other ones have way more carotenoids.

Regarding buckwheat, from what I have read it seems like nearly all whole grain foods have a lot of carotenoids, except for brown rice, and maybe white corn. So I would suggest avoiding whole grain foods in general. It's easy to get deficient in the B-vitamins if you eat a lot of refined grain. Potato is a very good food, it's very nutritious, more nutritious than any whole grain food, and it has nearly no carotenoids especially not the white potatoes (although even the yellow potatoes are relatively low in carotenoids). So if you tolerate potatoes well I think it's a very good staple food. Some people are allergic to the solanine in potatoes.

I think Smith's food recommendations are very sloppy and you shouldn't blindly follow them, however his research is pretty useful.

@salt

Online products that I find , are mostly black soybean, is black soybean same as black turtle beans ?

Not the same thing. 

Black turtle bean, black bean, they call it slightly different in different countries. But I'm talking about the common black bean that you can buy canned just about anywhere

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