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Dr. Goldner: Lupus Cured on a Lowfat, Plant-Based Diet!

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When Brooke became sick with lupus as a teenager, she was given six months to live because her kidneys were shutting down.

Her diet at that time was mostly pizza, which she ate almost every day. Because she was an ethical vegetarian, she ate cheese and eggs instead of meat. So...it’s clear she was on a high vitamin A diet!

Chemotherapy for two years saved her life, but didn’t cure her lupus.

In her late twenties, she went on a lowfat vegan diet high in cruciferous vegetables in order to lose weight for her wedding. She didn’t expect this diet would completely reverse her lupus, but it did!

She went on to have two healthy children, have an exciting career as a doctor, and remains recovered. 🙂

What can we learn from her recovery from a nearly fatal autoimmune disease (and what may have been chronic hypervitaminosis A)?

How does Dr. Brooke Goldner’s diet overlap with Grant’s?

- added oils are extremely limited
- legumes are a foundational food
- flaxseed was included in the diet
- no fish-based omega 3s
- no dairy or eggs

Is there anything she did, which Grant didn’t, we might be able to apply to support our recoveries here?

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I think the cruciferous vegetables really get the bile flow going and improve SCFAs and gut health. They are also quite high in some B vitamins like folate. They are my stage 2 after choline/betaine.

Brooke is a young woman perhaps less need for dietary choline.

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PIZZA!!!!   yes, pizza is evil hahaha... Strangely I've never been sick from a grilled cheese sandwich.   It's the sauce.  Or maybe the sauce in combo with the other things.  So delicious.   And yet evil.

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I have a friend with MS and last I spoke to her I was really interested to tell her my adventures with low VA.  However, she was following that diet guru, the one who we have spoken about here.   The one who reversed her MS.   Gosh I'll try to find the pointer on that doc's thread.  Anyways, I think it translated to tons of salad.   She had a sign up in her kitchen:  "Salad:  it's what's for dinner".  I should call and see how it worked out.

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https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/wahls-talking-vitamin-a/

I cut and pasted this from another site, don't know if it is true:

  • Wahls Diet (Level One): You’ll give up all gluten and dairy, and focus on consuming 9 cups of fruits and vegetables each day. 
  • Wahls Paleo (Level Two): You’ll stop eating grains, and limit potatoes and beans to two servings a week. You’ll incorporate seaweed and fermented foods. 
  • Wahls Paleo Plus (Level Three): This level is a ketogenic diet with intermittent fasting. It eliminates potatoes, beans, and legumes, and limits fruit to one serving, preferably of berries. It incorporates coconut milk and limits meals to twice daily, with a long fast. 
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Tomatoes are a new world food, not a European food.  

Hubs made me plant red tomatoes this year.   It's strange that yellow tomatoes don't give the exciting kick that the red ones do.  It's not like they taste "wrong".   They just don't scream flavor like the red ones.  What is that excitement?   Is the redness the bad thing?

 So here I am with a row of red tomatoes out there.  

It's interesting that the little animals in nature don't eat the tomato plants.

Groundhoggo did eat the lettuce that hubs just planted, though, FWIW

I've just decided I'm not going to maintain them.   I'm on tomato strike.

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I read your thread on Dr. Terry Wahls, @lil-chick, and watched some of her YouTube videos... It was disappointing to see a video where she was recommending the same Cod Liver Oil brand Morley Robbins does due to a sponsorship deal.  🤢

But a few months later, she had a video where she shared a raw-fruit and chia pudding recipe including BodyBio Oil, so maybe she instinctively realizes she needs the plant-based EFAs to heal the damage done by the Cod Liver Oil? Who knows...

Do you still take B-12 and/or multi-Bs?

It is interesting she “pulsed” her liver intake. She must be made of strong stuff to recover in spite of that...

I’d love to know how your friend made out. I hope she’s doing better.

Things that stood out to me from the video. 

People with autoimmune disease she starts them out with a HALF CUP of chia or flax seeds.  (I think of those who promote functional EFA's, Peskin, The Kane's, Udo Erasmus - few really)

Uses raw vegetable's - she uses the same reasoning as Udo Erasmus. Raw = Living food with functional enzymes.

The 8 or 12 cups of raw veggies = high mineral.  

Lots of water. 

The autoimmune healing that she claims to take place seems to put a kink in Grant's theory. (unless, perhaps flax seeds are the antidote, lol)

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puddleduckAndrew BDonald

@pattycake Flax seeds are high in choline. Perhaps they are part of the answer to autoimmune but I think @jessica2 would say at least we need some omega 6s too. Flax seeds are very high in fibre which prevents the absorption of lutein (and other carotenoids perhaps ?). There's probably a toxin removal effect too.

There's possibly something helpful about eating raw at least initially.  However, someone with really poor digestion might need some cooking at first to digest certain vegetables.

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