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Eggs as part of Vitamin A reduction
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Hermes on September 7, 2023, 5:45 am
I'm conflicted about eggs. I introduced them in the spring and started eating three or even four a day. Andrew's testimony and that of others sounded very encouraging. Recently, almost without thinking, I started to reduce my eggs to one a day. It'd be interesting to see how serum vitamin A has changed over the last few months. I did a test a few months ago when I was eating a lot of eggs.
I'm conflicted about eggs. I introduced them in the spring and started eating three or even four a day. Andrew's testimony and that of others sounded very encouraging. Recently, almost without thinking, I started to reduce my eggs to one a day. It'd be interesting to see how serum vitamin A has changed over the last few months. I did a test a few months ago when I was eating a lot of eggs.
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Hermes on September 7, 2023, 6:36 am
And as others have pointed out (I think it was David?), lutein and zeaxanthin are also a problem, both take years (up to ten years?) to detoxify. Here's what one paper had to say about it (obviously spinning it so that both "nutrients" are necessary):
Lutein and zeaxanthin accumulate in the macular pigment of the retina, and are reported to be associated with a reduced incidence of age-related macular degeneration. A rich source of lutein and zeaxanthin in the American diet is the yolk of chicken eggs. [Consumption of one egg per day increases serum lutein and zeaxanthin concentrations in older adults without altering serum lipid and lipoprotein cholesterol concentrations]
Glaucoma runs in my family. I wouldn't be surprised if both lutein and zeaxanthin were involved in its progression. It'd be nice to have good eyesight into old age.
And as others have pointed out (I think it was David?), lutein and zeaxanthin are also a problem, both take years (up to ten years?) to detoxify. Here's what one paper had to say about it (obviously spinning it so that both "nutrients" are necessary):
Lutein and zeaxanthin accumulate in the macular pigment of the retina, and are reported to be associated with a reduced incidence of age-related macular degeneration. A rich source of lutein and zeaxanthin in the American diet is the yolk of chicken eggs. [Consumption of one egg per day increases serum lutein and zeaxanthin concentrations in older adults without altering serum lipid and lipoprotein cholesterol concentrations]
Glaucoma runs in my family. I wouldn't be surprised if both lutein and zeaxanthin were involved in its progression. It'd be nice to have good eyesight into old age.
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Jiří on September 7, 2023, 7:45 am
@christian I don't understand how you eat one egg a day or when Tim says 3-4 eggs a week. Like you go and cook ONE egg? That is what 7g of protein and 6g of fat maybe? It is like cooking 30g of meat. Who does that? 🙂 When I was eating eggs I would eating at least 3 so I can call it a meal.. 🙂 Or you add that one egg to some other foods?
@christian I don't understand how you eat one egg a day or when Tim says 3-4 eggs a week. Like you go and cook ONE egg? That is what 7g of protein and 6g of fat maybe? It is like cooking 30g of meat. Who does that? 🙂 When I was eating eggs I would eating at least 3 so I can call it a meal.. 🙂 Or you add that one egg to some other foods?
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Hermes on September 7, 2023, 8:01 am
You're kind of funny in your slightly, probably unintentionally condescending way, @jiri 🙂 Yes, I eat meat too, sometimes deli meats or sausages. And obviously I eat more eggs per week than Tim recommends (7 as opposed to 3 or 4). My craving for protein has decreased in the last few months, maybe because it's summer? I don't know why.
You're kind of funny in your slightly, probably unintentionally condescending way, @jiri 🙂 Yes, I eat meat too, sometimes deli meats or sausages. And obviously I eat more eggs per week than Tim recommends (7 as opposed to 3 or 4). My craving for protein has decreased in the last few months, maybe because it's summer? I don't know why.
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Jiří on September 7, 2023, 8:19 am
@christian you didn't answered my question. Do you cook ONE egg at the time?
@christian you didn't answered my question. Do you cook ONE egg at the time?
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Hermes on September 7, 2023, 8:36 am
@jiri Oh, sorry. No, I boil twelve eggs in hot water for ten minutes and then keep them in the carton in the fridge. This is practical. The handling of individual eggs is not as you suggested.
@jiri Oh, sorry. No, I boil twelve eggs in hot water for ten minutes and then keep them in the carton in the fridge. This is practical. The handling of individual eggs is not as you suggested.
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Jiří on September 7, 2023, 8:50 am
@christian ok.. I never liked hard boiled eggs. They are also harder to digest I think.. But boiling for 3 minutes so the egg white is cooked and yolk still runny. That's delicious. 🙂
@christian ok.. I never liked hard boiled eggs. They are also harder to digest I think.. But boiling for 3 minutes so the egg white is cooked and yolk still runny. That's delicious. 🙂
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Hermes on September 7, 2023, 10:01 am
@jiri Oh yeah, the runny yolk makes it so much tastier. Like half an egg on top of ramen noodles.
@jiri Oh yeah, the runny yolk makes it so much tastier. Like half an egg on top of ramen noodles.
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Janelle525 on November 27, 2023, 1:46 pm
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Jenny on March 27, 2023, 2:40 am
Well said Tommy. A very useful nutrient dense food. Not to be vilified imo. Some people are allergic or sensitive to eggs, but if not I think they are a very useful part of a healthy diet. Very popular on my nutritional therapy course. Karen Hurd recommends them. Patricia Kane (founder of BodyBio and cell membrane expert) advises liberal intake. My biggest regret of this whole vA toxicity/detox debacle is cutting out eggs for 2 years. I believe it was one of the major factors that spun me into a dangerous health decline. Thank goodness for Chris Shade/Ben Lynch and then Andrew Baird talking sense. I think I was particularly badly affected by the lack of eggs/choline because 1. I don’t digest meat well 2. I was very stressed (Mum dying) 3. I was menopausal 4. I have PEMT SNPs 5. I was inducing a fast vA detox. All in all my requirements went up and a time I cut out eggs. 
I'm reading through this thread but thought I'd ask if you ever tried betaine HCl with meals? It has really helped me tolerate meat.
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Jenny on March 27, 2023, 2:40 am
Well said Tommy. A very useful nutrient dense food. Not to be vilified imo. Some people are allergic or sensitive to eggs, but if not I think they are a very useful part of a healthy diet. Very popular on my nutritional therapy course. Karen Hurd recommends them. Patricia Kane (founder of BodyBio and cell membrane expert) advises liberal intake. My biggest regret of this whole vA toxicity/detox debacle is cutting out eggs for 2 years. I believe it was one of the major factors that spun me into a dangerous health decline. Thank goodness for Chris Shade/Ben Lynch and then Andrew Baird talking sense. I think I was particularly badly affected by the lack of eggs/choline because 1. I don’t digest meat well 2. I was very stressed (Mum dying) 3. I was menopausal 4. I have PEMT SNPs 5. I was inducing a fast vA detox. All in all my requirements went up and a time I cut out eggs.
I'm reading through this thread but thought I'd ask if you ever tried betaine HCl with meals? It has really helped me tolerate meat.
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Janelle525 on January 15, 2024, 8:35 am
Was watching an episode from nutritionwithjudy on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6qTDLgH5FI&t=52s
Found lots of comments about people crashing on the carnivore diet with added liver, but also eggs!! I guess it isn't protecting them:
Was watching an episode from nutritionwithjudy on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6qTDLgH5FI&t=52s
Found lots of comments about people crashing on the carnivore diet with added liver, but also eggs!! I guess it isn't protecting them:
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