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I have some experience with EMF sensitivity.. and I have come to some kind of an conclusion about it after thinking about it a lot.

I have a sister that is so EMF sensitive she cannot even go shopping without getting severely ill.... she has to use a whole body coveringdress. She swells up and almost faints or cant breath from exposure.

She lives in a house on the countryside, no wifi, very remote etc. Her husband has bipolar, her children has mental issues too especially when they get stressed.

I have shielded my one wall with chicken mesh to lessen the radiation from a cellphone tower nearby, and my meter tells me it really worked well, I feel more relaxed. I have a corded computer, no wifi, dont keep my smartphone on and use a old type of cellphone for regular use. All that said, I have noticed something that makes me think that a body not able to relax will be way more hurt by radiation. So that would mean trauma and how it puts us in constant fight or flight mode - that is the deep reason why such a sensitivity emerges. The more relaxed I become the less any radiation bothers me. And I can tell my sister who lives isolated with her EMF sensitivity has lots of unhealed trauma.

I am sure that through being in sympathetic mode chronically shuts down liver function in a way that the body is not able to clear out excess metals and other trash(hormones etc) and that makes the whole problem emerge. So in the deepest sense it is a liver issue caused by the stress caused by trauma.

I sometimes picture it in my head this way too, which I think is fascinating; The cells in the body - if there are high tension in the cell walls, it will make the waves of radiation bounce on them hurting the system instead of them just flowing effortlessly and smooth through without causing damage.

Because clearly many people can be in high radiation and suffer no ill effects from it. I have a brother that is a programmer, and he is such a down to earth, peaceful, and relaxed person. He has zero issues with being in radiation all day, he is perfectly healthy. Because I have 14 siblings there is a lot to observe, what different lifestyles, trauma etc do to us.. as in a family you know so much about each other. 

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What do you think about living in a "bunker", protected by earth?
-Attaching my favorite type of  earth covered "bunker".

Image from:
https://inhabitat.com/10-hobbit-homes-that-will-have-you-ready-to-move-to-the-shire/hobbit-homes-lead/

 

PS. Personally I think using any variatoin of the word optimum without stating clear goals is usually meaning less and even if it rightfully used, I think it is still negatively affected by the general extreme over use of the term. I would like to think of it connected as:
Less electro-smog gives more quality of life

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hobbit house!

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Yeah a healthy body has so much capability to deal with harmful effects. Many often fallaciously argue that most people have no obvious issue with a thing that actually causes harm long term implying safety. As though chronic disease is not often multifactorial with insidious causes.

Electrosmog is significantly harming everyone it's only clearly obvious in those with already compromised health. So yeah less electrosmog reduces cellular stress which allows the body to more easily move towards wellness.

Underground homes are susceptible to mold but one that was designed well to have no mold issue, that could be good electrosmog wise.

I think the ultimate building material is thick rock. Mold free, lasts forever, blocks electrosmog and insulates well. Might be dangerous near a fault line though haha.

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On eBay and Alyexpress I have seen stickers that promise to shield EMF radiation. Are they legit or fake? Then I saw other companies that have different accessories like a credit card that shields radiation when you move and Faraday fabrics.

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Desert environments are suited to underground living. There is a town here in Australia where most of the houses are underground.

What are your thoughts on electrosmog as well as on hobbit living?

 

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I have heard of the Australian town of Coober Pedy where most people live in underground homes. It was this town I was thinking first of regarding electrosmog, since it is both remote from any big city (~9 h drive from Adelaide) and naturally shielded from outside EMF sources. Though, to me, a Hoobit house looks more appealing.

The Coober Pedy homes seems to have been made from opal mines and the coolest thing I think is that when they want to expand their homes they just dig out their homes a bit further. I don't have any idea what the collapse risk of these homes and mines are though. An interesting overview video on the town and at the end a woman briefly mentions how well she sleeps in their underground home with its inherent quiet darkness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsrcR3x9QKA

I don't have too many thoughts on electrosmog but I believe it is a serious insidious problem.

On the topic of mold I have heard that some EMF sources can cause increased mold growth and that I think that might be one of the reason for how EMF can damage us. I haven't looked too much on any study on EMF and mold, I found a site that referenced this one from 1982, studying just EMF in the frequencies of 41 640 MHz to 41 835 MHz:
"Resonant-like dependence of yeast growth rate on microwave frequencies"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2149285/

I think the study show some of the difficulty in measuring some of the effects of EMF since EMF contains a big spectrum of light and some frequencies can some effects while some frequencies can cause the opposite effect.

I am guessing that one reason EMF can be very damaging is that it is pure noise to the body. The body always sends and recieves signals and that EMF noise might disrupt important processes in the body. In engineering the concept is called signal-to-noise-ratio (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal-to-noise_ratio). Usually EMF signals are not sending out terribly strong signals (usually measured in mW) but the body's own signals through nerves are also quite weak. For example a pacemaker can run someone's heart with a maximum interment power ouput of around 0.05 mW (5 V times 0.01 mA) when sending a direct corded signal into the heart. Though EMF are affected by the inverse square law so their effective power output diminsh rapidly with increased distance from the source, unless they are sending a directionalized signal.

Power chart of WiFi seems to have previously been around 100 mW max according to this 2015 post by someone compiling official data regulation but I don't know how accurate it is or ever was:
https://w.wol.ph/2015/08/28/maximum-wifi-transmission-power-country/

I think Hobbit house living look amazing but like you I fear mold if not built sufficiently high up in the terrain while also having with very good drainage. I think it would also need to be using a very good and robust way to dehumidfiy and circulate air in the Hobbit house. Stale and moist air will always cause mold to grow even if the house is built with thick insulating rock.

 

PS. Found the 1982 study on how one type of yeast reacts to EMF study from Jill Caranahan's post on EMF and mold:
https://www.jillcarnahan.com/2021/10/16/struggling-with-mold-illness-how-emfs-could-be-making-your-symptoms-worse/

This PDF (78 pages long) linked in her post seems interesting:
"EMF HYPERSENSITIVITY: DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT" by Kalpana D. Patel
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cuxfigybrnx00wh/Kalpana.Patel.pdf?dl=0

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@david

Yep a hobbit house in the woods would be a lot more pleasant than Coober Pedy I think.

RF is much easier to block than ELF.

I agree with you about the noise aspect.

My understanding is that WiFi is normally less than 100mW but can be higher. Class 1 Bluetooth is up to 100mW, class 2 is a lot lower. Cellular is often between about 1 and 2W.

 

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Extremely low frequency magnetic fields emitted by cell phones

Weak ELF MF produce similar effects as non-thermal (NT) RF with significant overlap of molecular biological pathways [13–20]. The ELF MF effects were reported by many research groups at intensities lower than those produced by cell phones [21,22]. In particular, stress response, production of reactive oxygen species (ROS), increased sensitivity of stem cells, and inhibition of melatonin production were associated with increased cancer risks related to ELF exposure [23,24]. The ELF biological effects at intensities below the ICNIRP standards have been shown to manifest a complex dependence upon biological and physical variables similar to the NT RF effects [16,25–29] and have been considered in the frames of the same physical models [15,30–35].

The combined ELF and RF EMF exposure to DNA damage was studied by [36]. Exposure to ELF (30–100 Hz, 4.5 µT) did not significantly affect DNA, while combined exposure ELF and RF (2450 MHz, 1 mW/cm2) induced DNA breaks. [37] exposed human lens epithelial cells by RF (1.8 GHz with 217 Hz modulation) what induced ROS and DNA damage. However, superposing the 2 µT 30–90 Hz signal to the RF blocked ROS and DNA damage. [38] exposed amniotic epithelial cells by 15 min exposure to 217 Hz modulated 1800 MHz RF, 2 μT ELF, or concurrently to RF and ELF. Exposure to RF induced epidermal growth factor (EGF) receptor clustering and enhanced phosphorylation compared to ELF which did not cause the effects. However, when superimposed, complete inhibition of clustering and phosphorylation of the RF-induced EGF receptor occurred.

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We were chatting at Easter about how all the steeples of the churches nearby (New England, USA) are getting 5G installations.   In some respects I'm glad because at least there is a use for these beautiful buildings which are getting abandoned/demolished  frequently lately.   Perhaps the remaining Sunday worshippers are getting zapped, though.

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