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Quote from JMH on July 31, 2019, 6:17 amAre skin concerns your main/only issue? Acne, eczema...? If acne, I’m not sure that VA is the only culprit. I do believe there is a big genetic factor here. My husband is a dermatologist so we talk skin a lot! (I suffer from eczema)
I am also not sold on “detox symptoms”. But I do believe this is a very long road in trying to undo whatever damage has been done.
I will save my rant on derms then cause it won't be pretty at all lol
I have Seb derm on my face that is reoccurring. Didn't have it in my 20s just happened last year over the course of my diet. Highly doubt genetic components as I have asked everyone in my family no one has seen this. Parents have perfect skin. Maybe I had some genetic pathway that I activated with high VA. I know all too well about VA detox taking years but meanwhile I will combine different approaches. I am going to look deeper into the coimbra protocol ( which is what got me looking at fish oil) .
Grant did mention VA and D being antagonist potentially. What coimbra says makes a lot of sense about a broken signal between vitamin D and the immune system thus requiring larger dosage. Even last year I did not supplement with D. I am from middle eastern descent and if I were living in my home country I would be getting tenfolds the vitamin D.
Not that I think people would deteriorate this rapidly without it but clearly I had a trigger event.
Your parents might not have tipped the scales or if they did they could have different complaints. I think in general people eat at about the RDA and it's only when you start doing special diets or supps or meds that you get really out of whack.
I can totally imagine what someone with middle eastern genes might want to try for a lifestyle! Of course there would be pita bread, olive oil, rice, legumes, sheep and goat dairy (more often soured or as cheese than fresh) (feta for example) as well as sheep and goat meat and fat, tea, wine, grapes, figs, cucumbers, olives, sunshine, heat, wine-vinegar, fish, dates, regional nuts, oregano, garlic, onions. (I wouldn't see them as being as centered on fish/beef/chicken/egg/pork (or their fats)--though some might be in there-- neither would I imagine tropical or northern fruits for that matter). Not really that high in VA.
@ronnie - I’ve ranted plenty about doctors! I live with my dermatologist and he’s never been able to fix my eczema, so I’m not all that impressed. 🙂
Is seb derm a VA symptom? I believe there is a fungal component to it as well. It’s tempting to believe VA is the reason for all evil, but it’s probably not the case. Definitely worth experimenting, but I am wary of fish oil as it doesn’t seem to be something the body “naturally” needs. It never made a lot of sense to me.
Fungus theory doesn't make sense either. Dermatologist explanation that the immune system is reacting to the fungus that everyone has on your skin. I must have had the fungus my entire life so why did i start reacting now? Clearly there is a trigger event it's just that they don't know so this is a nice explanation and keeps everyone out of blame. People online have tried to solve it with anti fungus assault but its ineffective long term (for me completely so).
Also, the genetic theory doesn't make sense. After reading a lot of forums it's clear most people don't have the genetic component as their parent did not have the condition. And that's the premise of it being a genetic disorder right? You mean someone else in the family having similar condition.
The body is really complex I am not sure what it needs It's a crapshoot
Ronnie that is interesting! The Rosacea community has a similar "thing" going on where some have decided their rosacea is about the tiny mites that live on every surface of our body. And so they plaster their faces with herbs and etc to try to kill the tiny mites, bleaching their sheets daily etc... but really it is a loosing battle.
Grant talked about how the skin is weakened and apt to get infected, (maybe it does get over-run with fungus, mites or germs. ) (but the weakness has to be fixed, right?)
Maybe something triggered my body to send excess vitamin A to the face. Maybe a sunburn. The body was also glad to send it somewhere, because it had too much to deal with. "Hey I'm gonna keep putting it there, that worked out."
Have you ever seen orange baby noses/faces? The liver likes to send beta carotene and A to the face it seems.
Just because your parents don't have something, doesn't mean you don't. I keep saying I'm a walking set of recessive genes LOL. But really you can have two brown eyed parents and still end up with blue eyes.
http://ellamariet.blogspot.com/2009/10/love-of-all-things-orange.html
Quote from JMH on August 1, 2019, 6:39 amIs seb derm a VA symptom? I believe there is a fungal component to it as well. It’s tempting to believe VA is the reason for all evil, but it’s probably not the case.
Yes, there is a fungal component too, but the fungus itself can only thrive in a toxic environment which brings us back to vitamin A overload.
I have no doubt that dermatitis is VA related now as I see mine fading away (and the candidasis too!).
"Just because your parents don't have something, doesn't mean you don't. I keep saying I'm a walking set of recessive genes LOL. But really you can have two brown eyed parents and still end up with blue eyes."
Whilst I think that genetics are often used as a convenient scape-goat it is also true what Lil chick says above. I have genetic haemochromatosis. There is no family history of it, yet I have it and so does my sibling. Both my parents were carriers and had no idea. I am the 25% chance that their offspring would inherit two copies of the affected gene and voila I have a genetic condition that basically appeared out of the blue.
Genetic is a complicated topic. When derms refer to genetics at play for skin disorders they usually mean someone who exhibited symptoms. Skin diseases are mainly identified by the symptoms as there are no internal markers that they understand
As far as I know there is no 'eczema gene' that can be isolated