If VA is needed (albeit in small amounts, not overloaded amounts) in the early phases of life, it would help explain why it seems to be present in higher percentages in egg and milk fat than in the human or animal or bird's body fat.
It isn't logical that the body would purposefully detox into the young. I can see how the fat given the young might be THE SAME as the current rates in the animal's body. But it appears that VA might be HIGHER in milk and egg fat.
There have been a few discussions and threads about this over time.
I'm quite sure I arrived here VA-overloaded, my diet was ridiculous and my symptoms were textbook. But I'm still willing to believe that there might be a balance needed (rather than zero VA as the goal) and that bets should be hedged and that tradition still has important lessons about family food.
Plenty of examples of mothers' milk being laden with toxins. What toxins do not pass from the mother to the baby through placenta and through milk? Passing from mother to child is not evidence of a substance being good for us.
If VA is needed (albeit in small amounts, not overloaded amounts) in the early phases of life, it would help explain why it seems to be present in higher percentages in egg and milk fat than in the human or animal or bird's body fat.
It isn't logical that the body would purposefully detox into the young. I can see how the fat given the young might be THE SAME as the current rates in the animal's body. But it appears that VA might be HIGHER in milk and egg fat.
There have been a few discussions and threads about this over time.
I'm quite sure I arrived here VA-overloaded, my diet was ridiculous and my symptoms were textbook. But I'm still willing to believe that there might be a balance needed (rather than zero VA as the goal) and that bets should be hedged and that tradition still has important lessons about family food.
Plenty of examples of mothers' milk being laden with toxins. What toxins do not pass from the mother to the baby through placenta and through milk? Passing from mother to child is not evidence of a substance being good for us.
There are some very interesting links in this thread Tim started about how flu symptoms might really be VA symptoms. (does this show that VA is mobilized as a weapon?)
This makes me think about how Grant, Jessica and I have all said, in the last couple weeks, that we "don't seem to get sick anymore".
Just recently another cold came through this household. I had no cold symptoms, although I did take a nap one day, which is weird for me. And I had one bout of runs out of the blue. Did I fight it off the cold in some way that did not involve a huge flood of VA?
Another thing that is mentioned in the above thread is that you enter a state of hyper vitamin A after a meal heavy in VA.
This is a thing that is also an important point. Stopping over-eating might be a very important part of becoming VA-balanced.
I've said before that I believe that eggs are an important food, but used in moderation. My reason is because I saw an old-school body builder have bad results from drinking BLENDERS full of eggs. Perhaps it is very important to regulate the amount of VA taken at one time.
Hence the square meal, a tenet of traditional eating.
Easier to grok and work with concepts like #toxicbiletheory and #biledumps. These colds and flus are bile dumps. The higher the retinol burden the more damaging the bile dump. Reducing the copper and retinol burden changes the bile recipe secreted by the liver and reduces the problems inherent in bile dumps.
There are some very interesting links in this thread Tim started about how flu symptoms might really be VA symptoms. (does this show that VA is mobilized as a weapon?)
This makes me think about how Grant, Jessica and I have all said, in the last couple weeks, that we "don't seem to get sick anymore".
Just recently another cold came through this household. I had no cold symptoms, although I did take a nap one day, which is weird for me. And I had one bout of runs out of the blue. Did I fight it off the cold in some way that did not involve a huge flood of VA?
Another thing that is mentioned in the above thread is that you enter a state of hyper vitamin A after a meal heavy in VA.
This is a thing that is also an important point. Stopping over-eating might be a very important part of becoming VA-balanced.
I've said before that I believe that eggs are an important food, but used in moderation. My reason is because I saw an old-school body builder have bad results from drinking BLENDERS full of eggs. Perhaps it is very important to regulate the amount of VA taken at one time.
Hence the square meal, a tenet of traditional eating.
Easier to grok and work with concepts like #toxicbiletheory and #biledumps. These colds and flus are bile dumps. The higher the retinol burden the more damaging the bile dump. Reducing the copper and retinol burden changes the bile recipe secreted by the liver and reduces the problems inherent in bile dumps.
@lil-chick I agree. Another YouTube channel I like to watch is Sten Ekberg. He's a former Olympic athlete and low carb advocate. He once did an experiment where he ate an insane amount of eggs a day, I think 10, for a month. His cholesterol was raised a bit and I don't think anything else negative happened but I still thought that was kind of extreme and he even cooked all his eggs.
It was 5. I have done it for years. It is not a good idea. BUT, they were our first eggs from our first birds and tasted great. Someday, I will try eggs again. Once all our birds are off commercial feed for years eating a low vitamin A diet.
@lil-chick I agree. Another YouTube channel I like to watch is Sten Ekberg. He's a former Olympic athlete and low carb advocate. He once did an experiment where he ate an insane amount of eggs a day, I think 10, for a month. His cholesterol was raised a bit and I don't think anything else negative happened but I still thought that was kind of extreme and he even cooked all his eggs.
It was 5. I have done it for years. It is not a good idea. BUT, they were our first eggs from our first birds and tasted great. Someday, I will try eggs again. Once all our birds are off commercial feed for years eating a low vitamin A diet.
The animal studies showing the need of VA and carotenes for domestic stock like cows I think is pretty compelling. Can you imagine telling a farmer that the grass that the cows eat has a poison in them? I think they'd laugh at you.
I think little chicks idea of carotene's being protection against the sun is kind of interesting to think about too. Not to derail the threat on this point but maybe carotene's just aren't needed when you aren't in the Sun as much like we are these days shut up indoors?
I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level. You might scoff and say it's very unlikely but perhaps Grant is allergic to carotenes or some other Factor going on in his health such as amount stored in the liver. We just don't know. Grant says there's a growing body of people who are proving this. It's very informal though; there does need to be a study of some sort to control other factors. As far as I know there are no animal studies proving animals don't need it.
"I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level"
I find it perplexing that you struggle to grasp this straightforward correlation. Grant's experiment essentially extrapolates the broader experiment already being conducted by the all-muscle-meat carnivore community, who are consistently low in vitamin A. This isn't just some isolated test; it's an experiment with a significant number of positive results. The few failures that do exist are primarily among those consuming liver, as even Amber O'Hearn has pointed out. Grant's experiment is far from a simple n=1 scenario; it's an extension of the larger carnivore community experiment. His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases. In fact, Grant's experiment is superior because he included everything except vitamin A.
Excellent point and well said. Add to that a growing group of carnivore muscle meat only folk on LYL network who added in fiber. Mostly they prefer psyllium. So far ever improving results. Waiting to see how many and how well they do adding in charcoal.
There are more of us adding back oatmeal and rice with excellent results. Currently it seems like charcoal is the missing link to cutting down the biledumps (detox setbacks). I also like apples, dates, prunes and green peeled kiwi.
The animal studies showing the need of VA and carotenes for domestic stock like cows I think is pretty compelling. Can you imagine telling a farmer that the grass that the cows eat has a poison in them? I think they'd laugh at you.
I think little chicks idea of carotene's being protection against the sun is kind of interesting to think about too. Not to derail the threat on this point but maybe carotene's just aren't needed when you aren't in the Sun as much like we are these days shut up indoors?
I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level. You might scoff and say it's very unlikely but perhaps Grant is allergic to carotenes or some other Factor going on in his health such as amount stored in the liver. We just don't know. Grant says there's a growing body of people who are proving this. It's very informal though; there does need to be a study of some sort to control other factors. As far as I know there are no animal studies proving animals don't need it.
"I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level"
I find it perplexing that you struggle to grasp this straightforward correlation. Grant's experiment essentially extrapolates the broader experiment already being conducted by the all-muscle-meat carnivore community, who are consistently low in vitamin A. This isn't just some isolated test; it's an experiment with a significant number of positive results. The few failures that do exist are primarily among those consuming liver, as even Amber O'Hearn has pointed out. Grant's experiment is far from a simple n=1 scenario; it's an extension of the larger carnivore community experiment. His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases. In fact, Grant's experiment is superior because he included everything except vitamin A.
Excellent point and well said. Add to that a growing group of carnivore muscle meat only folk on LYL network who added in fiber. Mostly they prefer psyllium. So far ever improving results. Waiting to see how many and how well they do adding in charcoal.
There are more of us adding back oatmeal and rice with excellent results. Currently it seems like charcoal is the missing link to cutting down the biledumps (detox setbacks). I also like apples, dates, prunes and green peeled kiwi.
The animal studies showing the need of VA and carotenes for domestic stock like cows I think is pretty compelling. Can you imagine telling a farmer that the grass that the cows eat has a poison in them? I think they'd laugh at you.
I think little chicks idea of carotene's being protection against the sun is kind of interesting to think about too. Not to derail the threat on this point but maybe carotene's just aren't needed when you aren't in the Sun as much like we are these days shut up indoors?
I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level. You might scoff and say it's very unlikely but perhaps Grant is allergic to carotenes or some other Factor going on in his health such as amount stored in the liver. We just don't know. Grant says there's a growing body of people who are proving this. It's very informal though; there does need to be a study of some sort to control other factors. As far as I know there are no animal studies proving animals don't need it.
"I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level"
I find it perplexing that you struggle to grasp this straightforward correlation. Grant's experiment essentially extrapolates the broader experiment already being conducted by the all-muscle-meat carnivore community, who are consistently low in vitamin A. This isn't just some isolated test; it's an experiment with a significant number of positive results. The few failures that do exist are primarily among those consuming liver, as even Amber O'Hearn has pointed out. Grant's experiment is far from a simple n=1 scenario; it's an extension of the larger carnivore community experiment. His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases. In fact, Grant's experiment is superior because he included everything except vitamin A.
I disagree. I think most carnivores consume eggs. Dr Berry and his wife Neisha, longtime carnivores both consume liver and eggs for just one example. Shawn Baker consumes eggs I believe. Kelly Hogan consumes cod livers, which I disagree with but she's been going at it for a long time. Those that are like Mikhaila Peterson on her lion diet seem to have extremely sensitive systems and something else wrong like autoimmune conditions, not unlike what Grant had with his kidneys and eczema.
There are many carnivores who started and stayed muscle meat only. It has never been a point argued in the keto/paleo/carnivore world. It was always based on preference. Shawn Baker might be coming around to a different view too. He has never liked organ meats and was not that big an egg eater. Perhaps now he is wising up.
Shawn had disc issues last year too. He was amply warned that there is almost certainly a connection to vitamin A that he is not clearing out. He is well aware of the term isotretinoin induced sacroiliitis.
The animal studies showing the need of VA and carotenes for domestic stock like cows I think is pretty compelling. Can you imagine telling a farmer that the grass that the cows eat has a poison in them? I think they'd laugh at you.
I think little chicks idea of carotene's being protection against the sun is kind of interesting to think about too. Not to derail the threat on this point but maybe carotene's just aren't needed when you aren't in the Sun as much like we are these days shut up indoors?
I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level. You might scoff and say it's very unlikely but perhaps Grant is allergic to carotenes or some other Factor going on in his health such as amount stored in the liver. We just don't know. Grant says there's a growing body of people who are proving this. It's very informal though; there does need to be a study of some sort to control other factors. As far as I know there are no animal studies proving animals don't need it.
"I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level"
I find it perplexing that you struggle to grasp this straightforward correlation. Grant's experiment essentially extrapolates the broader experiment already being conducted by the all-muscle-meat carnivore community, who are consistently low in vitamin A. This isn't just some isolated test; it's an experiment with a significant number of positive results. The few failures that do exist are primarily among those consuming liver, as even Amber O'Hearn has pointed out. Grant's experiment is far from a simple n=1 scenario; it's an extension of the larger carnivore community experiment. His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases. In fact, Grant's experiment is superior because he included everything except vitamin A.
I disagree. I think most carnivores consume eggs. Dr Berry and his wife Neisha, longtime carnivores both consume liver and eggs for just one example. Shawn Baker consumes eggs I believe. Kelly Hogan consumes cod livers, which I disagree with but she's been going at it for a long time. Those that are like Mikhaila Peterson on her lion diet seem to have extremely sensitive systems and something else wrong like autoimmune conditions, not unlike what Grant had with his kidneys and eczema.
There are many carnivores who started and stayed muscle meat only. It has never been a point argued in the keto/paleo/carnivore world. It was always based on preference. Shawn Baker might be coming around to a different view too. He has never liked organ meats and was not that big an egg eater. Perhaps now he is wising up.
Shawn had disc issues last year too. He was amply warned that there is almost certainly a connection to vitamin A that he is not clearing out. He is well aware of the term isotretinoin induced sacroiliitis.
He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources.
He has also potentially identified an issue in chronic toxicity. Although personally to me the ideas around this still seem unclear.
However…
He has not proven that it is entirely non-essential.
Factors to consider
1. He is well nourished
2. He gets preformed (animal, final form) vitamin a in his diet every day through the consumption of beef and bison muscle meat which has a small amount of retinol.
3. He still has vitamin a in his serum and that will likely never change as long as he consumes meat.
"He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources."
Survival ?? He is thriving my friend ! I dont know why people are so desperate to prove grant wrong
Did you even read what I wrote? Why are you going into pedantics?
I was hoping for an individual that is anti VA to come in and actually bring forward arguments against my points as I’m actually neutral on this and have no intention of trying to prove Grant wrong, merely to spark discussion and delve into the science more.
It’s been disappointing thus far I must say.
Tommy, if you were neutral, you would not take it as a given that Grant's results mean nada. Go ahead. Make what you will of Grant's results. Do yourself and all of us a favor and experiment for yourself and publish the results. Curious to see if you results confirm or deny Grant's. Replicate it instead of debate it, eight?
He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources.
He has also potentially identified an issue in chronic toxicity. Although personally to me the ideas around this still seem unclear.
However…
He has not proven that it is entirely non-essential.
Factors to consider
1. He is well nourished
2. He gets preformed (animal, final form) vitamin a in his diet every day through the consumption of beef and bison muscle meat which has a small amount of retinol.
3. He still has vitamin a in his serum and that will likely never change as long as he consumes meat.
"He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources."
Survival ?? He is thriving my friend ! I dont know why people are so desperate to prove grant wrong
Did you even read what I wrote? Why are you going into pedantics?
I was hoping for an individual that is anti VA to come in and actually bring forward arguments against my points as I’m actually neutral on this and have no intention of trying to prove Grant wrong, merely to spark discussion and delve into the science more.
It’s been disappointing thus far I must say.
Tommy, if you were neutral, you would not take it as a given that Grant's results mean nada. Go ahead. Make what you will of Grant's results. Do yourself and all of us a favor and experiment for yourself and publish the results. Curious to see if you results confirm or deny Grant's. Replicate it instead of debate it, eight?
He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources.
He has also potentially identified an issue in chronic toxicity. Although personally to me the ideas around this still seem unclear.
However…
He has not proven that it is entirely non-essential.
Factors to consider
1. He is well nourished
2. He gets preformed (animal, final form) vitamin a in his diet every day through the consumption of beef and bison muscle meat which has a small amount of retinol.
3. He still has vitamin a in his serum and that will likely never change as long as he consumes meat.
"He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources."
Survival ?? He is thriving my friend ! I dont know why people are so desperate to prove grant wrong
Thriving?? Please check the pic attached below left pic is from a vid of his 7 years ago, right pic is from his most recent youtube interview. Also he says he almost never sweats eg hypothyroid.
How old are you Alex? What do you think you will look like at 56 years old? How do you think you will look at 63? You failed to noticed that his age spot / mole disappeared (I have a similar n=1 where all my age spots, moles, waters disappeared in only 20 months.) Pharma cartel dogma that sweating less means he is sick? Are you diagnosing Grant that he is hypothyroid? In your expert opinion, what other symptoms does he have that confirm that diagnosis?
Yes he is thriving. How much do you weigh? How much do you bench? How many hours a day do you work? How many miles a day do you bike? Good luck thriving lad. It might be easier to thrive if you learn to define it better.
He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources.
He has also potentially identified an issue in chronic toxicity. Although personally to me the ideas around this still seem unclear.
However…
He has not proven that it is entirely non-essential.
Factors to consider
1. He is well nourished
2. He gets preformed (animal, final form) vitamin a in his diet every day through the consumption of beef and bison muscle meat which has a small amount of retinol.
3. He still has vitamin a in his serum and that will likely never change as long as he consumes meat.
"He has proven that vitamin A is not required for survival anywhere near the amount suggested by mainstream sources."
Survival ?? He is thriving my friend ! I dont know why people are so desperate to prove grant wrong
Thriving?? Please check the pic attached below left pic is from a vid of his 7 years ago, right pic is from his most recent youtube interview. Also he says he almost never sweats eg hypothyroid.
How old are you Alex? What do you think you will look like at 56 years old? How do you think you will look at 63? You failed to noticed that his age spot / mole disappeared (I have a similar n=1 where all my age spots, moles, waters disappeared in only 20 months.) Pharma cartel dogma that sweating less means he is sick? Are you diagnosing Grant that he is hypothyroid? In your expert opinion, what other symptoms does he have that confirm that diagnosis?
Yes he is thriving. How much do you weigh? How much do you bench? How many hours a day do you work? How many miles a day do you bike? Good luck thriving lad. It might be easier to thrive if you learn to define it better.
The animal studies showing the need of VA and carotenes for domestic stock like cows I think is pretty compelling. Can you imagine telling a farmer that the grass that the cows eat has a poison in them? I think they'd laugh at you.
I think little chicks idea of carotene's being protection against the sun is kind of interesting to think about too. Not to derail the threat on this point but maybe carotene's just aren't needed when you aren't in the Sun as much like we are these days shut up indoors?
I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level. You might scoff and say it's very unlikely but perhaps Grant is allergic to carotenes or some other Factor going on in his health such as amount stored in the liver. We just don't know. Grant says there's a growing body of people who are proving this. It's very informal though; there does need to be a study of some sort to control other factors. As far as I know there are no animal studies proving animals don't need it.
"I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level"
I find it perplexing that you struggle to grasp this straightforward correlation. Grant's experiment essentially extrapolates the broader experiment already being conducted by the all-muscle-meat carnivore community, who are consistently low in vitamin A. This isn't just some isolated test; it's an experiment with a significant number of positive results. The few failures that do exist are primarily among those consuming liver, as even Amber O'Hearn has pointed out. Grant's experiment is far from a simple n=1 scenario; it's an extension of the larger carnivore community experiment. His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases. In fact, Grant's experiment is superior because he included everything except vitamin A.
"His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases."
I think this is important no matter where you stand on vitamin A, I do think Grant has proven that it isn't starch or oxalates or bean toxins that cause disease as he was consuming a fair amount. I mean no where near the amount that those who eat spinach everyday get, but still we hear from the carnivore folk that oxalate is like the worst thing to happen to you.
The animal studies showing the need of VA and carotenes for domestic stock like cows I think is pretty compelling. Can you imagine telling a farmer that the grass that the cows eat has a poison in them? I think they'd laugh at you.
I think little chicks idea of carotene's being protection against the sun is kind of interesting to think about too. Not to derail the threat on this point but maybe carotene's just aren't needed when you aren't in the Sun as much like we are these days shut up indoors?
I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level. You might scoff and say it's very unlikely but perhaps Grant is allergic to carotenes or some other Factor going on in his health such as amount stored in the liver. We just don't know. Grant says there's a growing body of people who are proving this. It's very informal though; there does need to be a study of some sort to control other factors. As far as I know there are no animal studies proving animals don't need it.
"I also think that we should be wondering whether Grant's experiment is reproducible or not. He is an N=1 but that doesn't prove VA is unnecessary or unneeded; the study needs to be reproducible on a large level"
I find it perplexing that you struggle to grasp this straightforward correlation. Grant's experiment essentially extrapolates the broader experiment already being conducted by the all-muscle-meat carnivore community, who are consistently low in vitamin A. This isn't just some isolated test; it's an experiment with a significant number of positive results. The few failures that do exist are primarily among those consuming liver, as even Amber O'Hearn has pointed out. Grant's experiment is far from a simple n=1 scenario; it's an extension of the larger carnivore community experiment. His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases. In fact, Grant's experiment is superior because he included everything except vitamin A.
"His findings further debunk the carnivore community's belief that carbs, oxalates, or plant toxins are the primary culprits behind most diseases."
I think this is important no matter where you stand on vitamin A, I do think Grant has proven that it isn't starch or oxalates or bean toxins that cause disease as he was consuming a fair amount. I mean no where near the amount that those who eat spinach everyday get, but still we hear from the carnivore folk that oxalate is like the worst thing to happen to you.
@@janelle525 I very much disagree that Grant has proven oxalates don't matter. Or that they aren't the cause of problems. A couple of tablespoons of beans a day is not very many oxalates at all. It would probably be considered a low oxalate diet. He's not even eating a half a cup of black beans a day which would be about 30 grams of oxalates, high intake is considered 40 to 50 mg a day.
Can't forget he was eating brown rice every few days. That pushes up the oxalates quite a bit. But yeah like I said no where near spinach.
@@janelle525 I very much disagree that Grant has proven oxalates don't matter. Or that they aren't the cause of problems. A couple of tablespoons of beans a day is not very many oxalates at all. It would probably be considered a low oxalate diet. He's not even eating a half a cup of black beans a day which would be about 30 grams of oxalates, high intake is considered 40 to 50 mg a day.
Can't forget he was eating brown rice every few days. That pushes up the oxalates quite a bit. But yeah like I said no where near spinach.
@@janelle525 I very much disagree that Grant has proven oxalates don't matter. Or that they aren't the cause of problems. A couple of tablespoons of beans a day is not very many oxalates at all. It would probably be considered a low oxalate diet. He's not even eating a half a cup of black beans a day which would be about 30 grams of oxalates, high intake is considered 40 to 50 mg a day.
I very much disagree with your statement , brown rice has lots of oxalates . That add up to the whole list . Also even 7 years of oxalate consumption would add up a lot of oxalates in the body to dump .
Also not to forget , both are high in lectins , Arsenic and Phytic Acid.
Not sure here but it does not seem like brown rice has high oxalate levels relative to other foods. Maybe relative to other grains yes, but still not that much.
@@janelle525 I very much disagree that Grant has proven oxalates don't matter. Or that they aren't the cause of problems. A couple of tablespoons of beans a day is not very many oxalates at all. It would probably be considered a low oxalate diet. He's not even eating a half a cup of black beans a day which would be about 30 grams of oxalates, high intake is considered 40 to 50 mg a day.
I very much disagree with your statement , brown rice has lots of oxalates . That add up to the whole list . Also even 7 years of oxalate consumption would add up a lot of oxalates in the body to dump .
Also not to forget , both are high in lectins , Arsenic and Phytic Acid.
Not sure here but it does not seem like brown rice has high oxalate levels relative to other foods. Maybe relative to other grains yes, but still not that much.
