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Grant's new Diabetes Blog Post

@ggenereux2014

"How can we explain these two diametrically opposed diets yielding effectively the same results in reversing diabetes?"

What about the fact that both diets are calorie restriction? It has been shown again and again that you can improve your health markers even on junk food diet as long you are in calorie deficit = you are losing excess of body fat... I am not saying that vit A is not a factor in worsening of our health, but you see vit A everywhere like keto people see sugar behind every health issue there is and we know it is not like that..

@lil-chick interesting thoughts.

I’ve come to the conclusion that my body did me a huge favour putting on fat when I got very vA toxic (I certainly didn’t think that at the time!). I think of it as extra storage space. I didn’t get an autoimmune disease. This fits with your idea.

Stephanie Seneff says that some fat protects from toxicity & forcing thinness can lead to disease. This is why I’m loosing my vA poisoning weight slowly. It’s tempting to get rid of it quicker but I’m letting it go away slowly as I no longer need the ‘extra storage’. It took about 10 months to reach a point where I felt weight was slowly decreasing with no change in diet/exercise. 

Same here ! Jenny , What type of exercise are you doing for gradual fat loss ? 

Hi @Naveen I’m not doing anything special. Just regular walks some on very hilly up & down ground that gets the heart going. I’ve always done this though. The only thing I’ve added is some Qi Gong (like tai chi but simpler) but more for stress reduction rather than exercise. I’m convinced that for me stress/anxiety is a major problem slowing my recovery. I think one can end up in a vicious cycle of stress causing more vA from liver into system combined with a slowing of detoxification, resulting in more stress/anxiety...

@lil-chick That makes a LOT of sense. And yeah, the only type one diabetic I know was always skinny (and still is), however the type twos in my life all have rolls or big belleys. I am guessing the lack of body fat is one reason I developed CFS/ME and mental illness as a teen. 🧠 Wish I knew why the VA (if it does work as we suspect) goes to the bones and joints in this person, or the pancreas in that person.

Could VA (and alcohol) have another "friend"?

I was thinking about policemen as I drove to work today.   A cliche about policmen is... that they have beer guts due to eating donuts and coffee all day.   There is a little diner near me, and many of the regulars there, and some of the workers... also seem to be suffering from these types of problems. 

I've gone on and on about my food attacks, and deep fried foods are another trigger  (along with high VA foods and alcohol).   Also long-slow-fatty BBQ--but I think that might be the same problem as with deep-fry.

I would guess that the body ALSO considers something in deep fry... just as toxic as VA, and squirrels it away in the same manner. Possibly aldehydes?      https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/02/120222093508.htm  

"Fried food risks: Toxic aldehydes detected in reheated oil"

Edited to add:  Grant gently cooks his meats, and it doesn't appear that he'd have many of these aldehydes due to over-heating fats or oils in his diet.  (neither does he include alcohol, IIRC)

Edited again:  (LOL)   I'm addicted to the Townsends chanell (on historic cooking) and I've been reading an historical cookbook.  SO MANY meals were boiled in the olden days.  Sure meats were roasted for fun or when camping.  And yes they did deep fry sometimes, even hundreds of years ago.  But your basic, everyday meal  MOST days... was what we modern people would call a "one-pot boiled dinner".  

Lil chick you are right food was boiled. Vegetables were boiled in the pot or used as wraps. Whatever would keep without refrigeration- refrigerators were small and power always went out.

   But back then there was lots of VA in Casein and Whey based baby formula, starting in the 50s,  and the prenatal vitamins started in the 70s.  So toxicity would have started young but maybe perhaps accumulated more slowly, in spite of the milk we drank, as we had to fill up on starches-bread, biscuits, cereal, rice pasta. A lot of families had 3-5 kids and there just wasn't a lot of food. We had no sunscreen. No big meat dinners except on Sundays, holidays.  And we didn't fry anything, just used the oil for baking. Eating out was rare, no fast food in town until the late 60s.

  If you were too thin grandma fed you more:) Our parents had plenty of heart disease, diabetes and strokes in their 50s but not the younger people. Diabetes in young people and fatty liver like now were unheard of, and chubby kids weren't unhealthy.    I think we definitely accumulated Toxic A, I mean our baby formulas were Casein and Whey. Maybe it was a slower poisoning than the kids/young adults now, who started on on formulas, always took kids vitamins, stay indoors, had a lifetime of fortified processed foods, fried foods, trans fats, retinyl palmitate in lotions, sunblocks, and much more beta carotene in the food. I dont know the reason there is so much diabetes so young but it wouldn't surprise me if there's adrenal damage from A toxicity with impaired fat metabolism.  Except for those in tough home situations, we also had way less stress.

Quote from puddleduck on August 6, 2020, 10:47 am

@lil-chick That makes a LOT of sense. And yeah, the only type one diabetic I know was always skinny (and still is), however the type twos in my life all have rolls or big belleys. I am guessing the lack of body fat is one reason I developed CFS/ME and mental illness as a teen. 🧠 Wish I knew why the VA (if it does work as we suspect) goes to the bones and joints in this person, or the pancreas in that person.

I had a similar situation.  I was always a skinny child but then went on to develop an eating disorder so likely impeded any attempt my body made to put on protective fat.  Developed CFS and mental health problems.  I too have wondered if my natural body shape and perhaps also me forcing low weight later (no way of knowing if my body would have accumulated protective fat) have made my health problems from VA toxicity worse.

Quote from Arena on August 4, 2020, 1:04 pm

@orion: hope you are right, because I feel like a zombie 😀 think I’m gonna ease down on the running for a couple of days, though!

@jiri I had a bad reaction after I tried some low fat ground beef one day, but I wasn’t sure what the cause was as there were other factors (e.g. air pollen was high that day), but I might try again. I was under the impression that the expensive stuff was quality, hence Grant’s choice of beef.

@are Can I ask what was your reaction? Some (very few) are allergic to red meat after a tick bite. https://www.webmd.com/allergies/news/20140813/tick-bites-red-meat-allergy

Also, ground beef is high in histamine which can cause problems.

@neilky My main post-accutane problem is the eyes, so my reaction was red, inflammed eyes. It comes and goes, not sure what causes it, but I do have allergies, so the histamine connection could be a good point!