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Quote from Joseph on October 8, 2025, 11:16 amSo I've done a bit more digging. One new medication with the potential to reverse hair loss was publicized briefly in 2018, and there's been no more ado about it as far as I can tell. That drug was cyclosporine, an immunosuppressant prescribed to prevent organ transplant rejection. Psoriasis is autoimmune, as is alopecia areata. When it's bad enough they prescribe steroids.
Seborrheic dermatitis is claimed to not be autoimmune, but a reaction to fungus (spoiler: the fungus is just firefighters showing up to the smoke alarm). I highly suspect dandruff as a prelude to balding and attempted to suss out historical trends for the sale of head and shoulders (which works by snuffing out the firefighters when they arrive). However one needs paid subscriptions to see this data so no dice.
I looked into cradle cap, which is seborrheic dermatitis of the scalp in infants.Cradle cap (seborrheic dermatitis):
In infants, seborrheic dermatitis usually appears on the scalp and is commonly known as “cradle cap.” In older children and adults, seborrheic dermatitis on the scalp is typically called dandruff.
h ttps://nationaleczema.org/children/seborrheic-dermatitis/
Most infants grow out of this but again, if it is bad enough they are prescribed steroids to suppress the immune response. I don't know how many ways to say that hair loss is autoimmune but I'm attempting to find out.
My digging stalled, but was restarted when I remembered to abandon startpage and try the same searches on yandex. This brought me to:
Whilst getting my master's degree parts of my eyebrows fell out and much of my hair broke off. I ended up cutting it short and penciling in my brows. About one year after I graduated I became pregnant again and had even more spots come up, losing more hair in pregnancy than before. I also lost part of the eyelashes on one eye. It came back after the baby was born and then began to shed about 1.5 years later, when I was living on coffee.
A local doctor's office did a blood test to test for foods that I am sensitive to, as "allergic" generally involves an intense, immediate reaction. I found that I was sensitive to a number of foods, including coffee, which was the worst. Some of the culprits were wheat, gluten, baker's yeast, mushrooms, tomatoes, cane sugar, lemon, watermelon, bell peppers, cottage cheese....you get the idea. I immediately eliminated all of those foods and my hair began to grow back. I now have a full head of hair and my eyebrows are mostly intact.
https://alopeciaworld.com/forum/topics/dietary-changes-halting-alopecia-areata
From the above comment, and everywhere else I've looked, stress is a major trigger for hair loss (greying as well). For everyone here who has read Grant's books they are aware of the reason why. I was able to parse out from multiple studies that the age of onset of hair loss is decreasing over time (as expected). It is easy to find stories of men (and women) in their teens and 20s who are having these signs of old age, which are due to increased exposure to a toxin along with increased stress.
The only two FDA approved drugs for hair loss are minoxidil and finasteride. Finasteride is an excellent way for a man to geld himself, and minoxidil will break his heart (literally). The trend now from what I can tell is to combine minoxidil with tretinoin (accutane). Silly things like the tiktok trend I posted about previously are bald-faced (see what I did there?) attempts by industry to test the waters and pave the way.
So I've done a bit more digging. One new medication with the potential to reverse hair loss was publicized briefly in 2018, and there's been no more ado about it as far as I can tell. That drug was cyclosporine, an immunosuppressant prescribed to prevent organ transplant rejection. Psoriasis is autoimmune, as is alopecia areata. When it's bad enough they prescribe steroids.
Seborrheic dermatitis is claimed to not be autoimmune, but a reaction to fungus (spoiler: the fungus is just firefighters showing up to the smoke alarm). I highly suspect dandruff as a prelude to balding and attempted to suss out historical trends for the sale of head and shoulders (which works by snuffing out the firefighters when they arrive). However one needs paid subscriptions to see this data so no dice.
I looked into cradle cap, which is seborrheic dermatitis of the scalp in infants.
Cradle cap (seborrheic dermatitis):

In infants, seborrheic dermatitis usually appears on the scalp and is commonly known as “cradle cap.” In older children and adults, seborrheic dermatitis on the scalp is typically called dandruff.
h ttps://nationaleczema.org/children/seborrheic-dermatitis/
Most infants grow out of this but again, if it is bad enough they are prescribed steroids to suppress the immune response. I don't know how many ways to say that hair loss is autoimmune but I'm attempting to find out.
My digging stalled, but was restarted when I remembered to abandon startpage and try the same searches on yandex. This brought me to:
Whilst getting my master's degree parts of my eyebrows fell out and much of my hair broke off. I ended up cutting it short and penciling in my brows. About one year after I graduated I became pregnant again and had even more spots come up, losing more hair in pregnancy than before. I also lost part of the eyelashes on one eye. It came back after the baby was born and then began to shed about 1.5 years later, when I was living on coffee.
A local doctor's office did a blood test to test for foods that I am sensitive to, as "allergic" generally involves an intense, immediate reaction. I found that I was sensitive to a number of foods, including coffee, which was the worst. Some of the culprits were wheat, gluten, baker's yeast, mushrooms, tomatoes, cane sugar, lemon, watermelon, bell peppers, cottage cheese....you get the idea. I immediately eliminated all of those foods and my hair began to grow back. I now have a full head of hair and my eyebrows are mostly intact.
https://alopeciaworld.com/forum/topics/dietary-changes-halting-alopecia-areata
From the above comment, and everywhere else I've looked, stress is a major trigger for hair loss (greying as well). For everyone here who has read Grant's books they are aware of the reason why. I was able to parse out from multiple studies that the age of onset of hair loss is decreasing over time (as expected). It is easy to find stories of men (and women) in their teens and 20s who are having these signs of old age, which are due to increased exposure to a toxin along with increased stress.
The only two FDA approved drugs for hair loss are minoxidil and finasteride. Finasteride is an excellent way for a man to geld himself, and minoxidil will break his heart (literally). The trend now from what I can tell is to combine minoxidil with tretinoin (accutane). Silly things like the tiktok trend I posted about previously are bald-faced (see what I did there?) attempts by industry to test the waters and pave the way.
Quote from lil chick on October 8, 2025, 11:30 amMy first baby had cradle cap and infant acne. But not as horribly as that one in the picture. Oh my. (shakes head)
My hair went white "early" and "suddenly". (these words are relative though). But that is why I turned to henna, which was probably yet another Wrong Turn on the way to Albuquerque. I actually have grown to like my white hair, as soon as it grew down to about my eyes I found it much more pleasing than any dye color.
I have very sparse eyelashes, which may explain why I get so much debris on my eyeballs.
My first baby had cradle cap and infant acne. But not as horribly as that one in the picture. Oh my. (shakes head)
My hair went white "early" and "suddenly". (these words are relative though). But that is why I turned to henna, which was probably yet another Wrong Turn on the way to Albuquerque. I actually have grown to like my white hair, as soon as it grew down to about my eyes I found it much more pleasing than any dye color.
I have very sparse eyelashes, which may explain why I get so much debris on my eyeballs.
Quote from Jiří on October 9, 2025, 8:35 amI deal with major hair loss from thyroid meds(T4) that Iwas taking last 4 months. I am done with it. Will stop cold turkey from tomorrow. Don't feel better. My free T3 actually dropped which makes sense since the body doesn't want increase metabolism when there is inflammation, excess of oxidative stress etc.. So all that T4 I was taking the body just converted into inactive reverse T3 instead of active T3.. It would be ok if that reverse T3 just acted as "stand by" hormone to be converted into free T3 as needed. But reverse T3 basically blocks free T3 action directly so. Taking T4 makes everything just worse.. Taking T3 directly is really bad idea because it forces fast metabolism without any self regulative mechanism so it can cause insane oxidative stress that the body can't handle and you just damage your body like crazy..
So there is no point in taking thyroid hormone IF you don't have damaged thyroid gland. Which most people don't. Their body just can't handle that oxidative stress from high metabolism.. I just had to try it AGAIN. 4 times already in last 20 years. Doesn't work. Just this time got crazy hair los on the top. Hopefully will recover from it heh..
I deal with major hair loss from thyroid meds(T4) that Iwas taking last 4 months. I am done with it. Will stop cold turkey from tomorrow. Don't feel better. My free T3 actually dropped which makes sense since the body doesn't want increase metabolism when there is inflammation, excess of oxidative stress etc.. So all that T4 I was taking the body just converted into inactive reverse T3 instead of active T3.. It would be ok if that reverse T3 just acted as "stand by" hormone to be converted into free T3 as needed. But reverse T3 basically blocks free T3 action directly so. Taking T4 makes everything just worse.. Taking T3 directly is really bad idea because it forces fast metabolism without any self regulative mechanism so it can cause insane oxidative stress that the body can't handle and you just damage your body like crazy..
So there is no point in taking thyroid hormone IF you don't have damaged thyroid gland. Which most people don't. Their body just can't handle that oxidative stress from high metabolism.. I just had to try it AGAIN. 4 times already in last 20 years. Doesn't work. Just this time got crazy hair los on the top. Hopefully will recover from it heh..
Quote from Eio on October 9, 2025, 9:04 amQuote from Jiří on October 9, 2025, 8:35 amI deal with major hair loss from thyroid meds(T4) that Iwas taking last 4 months. I am done with it. Will stop cold turkey from tomorrow. Don't feel better. My free T3 actually dropped which makes sense since the body doesn't want increase metabolism when there is inflammation, excess of oxidative stress etc.. So all that T4 I was taking the body just converted into inactive reverse T3 instead of active T3.. It would be ok if that reverse T3 just acted as "stand by" hormone to be converted into free T3 as needed. But reverse T3 basically blocks free T3 action directly so. Taking T4 makes everything just worse.. Taking T3 directly is really bad idea because it forces fast metabolism without any self regulative mechanism so it can cause insane oxidative stress that the body can't handle and you just damage your body like crazy..
So there is no point in taking thyroid hormone IF you don't have damaged thyroid gland. Which most people don't. Their body just can't handle that oxidative stress from high metabolism.. I just had to try it AGAIN. 4 times already in last 20 years. Doesn't work. Just this time got crazy hair los on the top. Hopefully will recover from it heh..
Thank you for the good explanation of how taking T4 or T3 affects a person. Your anecdotal experience as a guinea pig for those of us who won't take it are helpful. The people I knew who had to take thyroid either didn't have a thyroid gland anymore or had elevated antibodies. They had trouble getting the dosage right if they ever got it right. I hope your hair loss stops and it grows back.
Quote from Jiří on October 9, 2025, 8:35 amI deal with major hair loss from thyroid meds(T4) that Iwas taking last 4 months. I am done with it. Will stop cold turkey from tomorrow. Don't feel better. My free T3 actually dropped which makes sense since the body doesn't want increase metabolism when there is inflammation, excess of oxidative stress etc.. So all that T4 I was taking the body just converted into inactive reverse T3 instead of active T3.. It would be ok if that reverse T3 just acted as "stand by" hormone to be converted into free T3 as needed. But reverse T3 basically blocks free T3 action directly so. Taking T4 makes everything just worse.. Taking T3 directly is really bad idea because it forces fast metabolism without any self regulative mechanism so it can cause insane oxidative stress that the body can't handle and you just damage your body like crazy..
So there is no point in taking thyroid hormone IF you don't have damaged thyroid gland. Which most people don't. Their body just can't handle that oxidative stress from high metabolism.. I just had to try it AGAIN. 4 times already in last 20 years. Doesn't work. Just this time got crazy hair los on the top. Hopefully will recover from it heh..
Thank you for the good explanation of how taking T4 or T3 affects a person. Your anecdotal experience as a guinea pig for those of us who won't take it are helpful. The people I knew who had to take thyroid either didn't have a thyroid gland anymore or had elevated antibodies. They had trouble getting the dosage right if they ever got it right. I hope your hair loss stops and it grows back.
Quote from Jiří on October 9, 2025, 9:53 am@eio when you don't have thyroid you need to take it. There is no other option. But for most people hypothyroidsm is simply issues with antioxidant system, toxicity, deficiency.. That is also why most people feel still bad even when their thyroid lab looks better..
Btw I had elevated anti bodies as well. Most people have it from leaky gut. So gluten, casein and other complex protein structures make it to the blood where they activate immune system.. My antibodies dropped when I stopped gluten and caseine.. But as you can imagine not eating gluten and caseine is next to impossible for average people.. That means they can't eat like 80% of all foods. they see everywere in shops, fast foods etc.. I have no issue with it. I was into fitness style of eating long before. So I just keep eating meals like rice and meat.. I figured out that I can't even eat organic gluten free oats which really sucks. I love them. But I do feel really bad after eating them..
Anyways I am done with meds for sure. Forcing metabolism will not do any good. The body showed me that with my hair lol.
@eio when you don't have thyroid you need to take it. There is no other option. But for most people hypothyroidsm is simply issues with antioxidant system, toxicity, deficiency.. That is also why most people feel still bad even when their thyroid lab looks better..
Btw I had elevated anti bodies as well. Most people have it from leaky gut. So gluten, casein and other complex protein structures make it to the blood where they activate immune system.. My antibodies dropped when I stopped gluten and caseine.. But as you can imagine not eating gluten and caseine is next to impossible for average people.. That means they can't eat like 80% of all foods. they see everywere in shops, fast foods etc.. I have no issue with it. I was into fitness style of eating long before. So I just keep eating meals like rice and meat.. I figured out that I can't even eat organic gluten free oats which really sucks. I love them. But I do feel really bad after eating them..
Anyways I am done with meds for sure. Forcing metabolism will not do any good. The body showed me that with my hair lol.