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@armin

I like the way you marked the jar with the Bacillus subtilis in it. Maybe the dollars will flow with this.

Quote from Hermes on February 15, 2026, 5:49 pm

@armin

I like the way you marked the jar with the Bacillus subtilis in it. Maybe the dollars will flow with this.

$hit, I would gladly make batches for everyone for free just to get the ball rolling. It's dirt cheap if it works for ones and I imagine it would help at least a few issues that most people have.

My weakness is overdoing consuming the yogurt. It just tastes so good.

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Quote from Armin on February 15, 2026, 6:19 pm
Quote from Hermes on February 15, 2026, 5:49 pm

@armin

I like the way you marked the jar with the Bacillus subtilis in it. Maybe the dollars will flow with this.

$hit, I would gladly make batches for everyone for free just to get the ball rolling. It's dirt cheap if it works for ones and I imagine it would help at least a few issues that most people have.

My weakness is overdoing consuming the yogurt. It just tastes so good.

Haha, no need for that. People can handle a yogurt maker or an oven just fine. The process is shithead proof.

Quote from Hermes on February 15, 2026, 7:20 pm
Quote from Armin on February 15, 2026, 6:19 pm
Quote from Hermes on February 15, 2026, 5:49 pm

@armin

I like the way you marked the jar with the Bacillus subtilis in it. Maybe the dollars will flow with this.

$hit, I would gladly make batches for everyone for free just to get the ball rolling. It's dirt cheap if it works for ones and I imagine it would help at least a few issues that most people have.

My weakness is overdoing consuming the yogurt. It just tastes so good.

Haha, no need for that. People can handle a yogurt maker or an oven just fine. The process is shithead proof.

The way people at work respond to me is how I would have responded before my experiment. It just sounds too simple and elementary when someone suggests that all sorts of ailments could have their cause or exacerbation rooted in the hands of mere bacteria. 

I'm tempted to bring a big jar to work and put it in the fridge. "Just a teaspoon per day for what ails ya". 

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Quote from Joe2 on February 15, 2026, 1:31 pm
Quote from Robert on February 15, 2026, 10:38 am

How long before you started noticing anything? I'm only on day 3 currently but so far I've only noticed a bit of gassiness and some heart burn. That was with 1/2 cup of mixed yogurt the first day and 1 cup the second day. Since the wife wont eat it I'll continue doing 1 cup a day so I can use it all before it goes bad. 

So if your wife would eat it you would eat less per day?

Probably.  Kind of like when there are sweets in the house. 

I think we got the salesman's attention. Posted an hour ago.

 

 

Even if his premise were true, that the copper/toxins in the bile drive the dysbiosis, he has stated that detox is a many year process. Honestly, the body never stops detoxing so he is just kicking the can down the road Ad Infinitum. 

The enemies are at the gates but lets focus on the the boiler room issue. 

Shit, pathogenic microbes from the colon even colonize the gallbladder. It's a colon up phenomenon, not a liver down one. 

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Quote from Armin on February 15, 2026, 10:44 am
Quote from Robert on February 15, 2026, 10:38 am

How long before you started noticing anything? I'm only on day 3 currently but so far I've only noticed a bit of gassiness and some heart burn. That was with 1/2 cup of mixed yogurt the first day and 1 cup the second day. Since the wife wont eat it I'll continue doing 1 cup a day so I can use it all before it goes bad. 

I noticed the die-off reactions the 1st week. Fatigue, irritability, etc. I went a little too strong too fast, eating a few cups a day.

For the good effects, I think it was around week 3 as I backed off on week 2 to gradually bump things up again.

Each batch seemed to get stronger so I backed things down again around week 5.

It's a 1 step back, 3 steps forward kind of progress.

I ate a bunch the last few days and a good amount (really tart stuff) this morning and I'm laid out for the day. Really tired.

 

How did your dairy product turn out? Super cheesy even after refrigeration? Wife won't try it?

I don't think it will go bad but I understand the need to not risk it going bad.

 

 

You were right that the cheese quality diminishes when its cooled down. The reuteri I could learn to like, the gasseri is stronger. The wife wont yet try them, until I can show that I'm getting some benefit from them. And if  I do get benefit from them I'll just pay the money and buy her the extra pills to take without eating yogurt. 

 

I woke up today (day 4, havent had any yogurt yet) and am sore all over and have a sore throat and headache. Coincidence that I get the flu now? The wife just got over something so maybe. 

Quote from Robert on February 16, 2026, 10:37 am
Quote from Armin on February 15, 2026, 10:44 am
Quote from Robert on February 15, 2026, 10:38 am

How long before you started noticing anything? I'm only on day 3 currently but so far I've only noticed a bit of gassiness and some heart burn. That was with 1/2 cup of mixed yogurt the first day and 1 cup the second day. Since the wife wont eat it I'll continue doing 1 cup a day so I can use it all before it goes bad. 

I noticed the die-off reactions the 1st week. Fatigue, irritability, etc. I went a little too strong too fast, eating a few cups a day.

For the good effects, I think it was around week 3 as I backed off on week 2 to gradually bump things up again.

Each batch seemed to get stronger so I backed things down again around week 5.

It's a 1 step back, 3 steps forward kind of progress.

I ate a bunch the last few days and a good amount (really tart stuff) this morning and I'm laid out for the day. Really tired.

 

How did your dairy product turn out? Super cheesy even after refrigeration? Wife won't try it?

I don't think it will go bad but I understand the need to not risk it going bad.

 

 

You were right that the cheese quality diminishes when its cooled down. The reuteri I could learn to like, the gasseri is stronger. The wife wont yet try them, until I can show that I'm getting some benefit from them. And if  I do get benefit from them I'll just pay the money and buy her the extra pills to take without eating yogurt. 

 

I woke up today (day 4, havent had any yogurt yet) and am sore all over and have a sore throat and headache. Coincidence that I get the flu now? The wife just got over something so maybe. 

I think the cheesiness is dependent on each batch. Gasseri for me was very mild at first but they eventually all get nice and tart as new batches are made with starters. 75 billion per 2 tablespoons vs 10 billion per capsule. Is it the cheesiness that your wife is hesitant of or just the make it at home yogurt concoction vibe?

Yesterday was rough for me as I downed a ton of it friday night-sunday morning. I'm feeling fine now. It takes a higher and higher dose to get these die-off reactions, which is a good thing. Very similar symptoms as weeks 1 and 3.

 

 

Quote from Robert on February 16, 2026, 10:37 am
Quote from Armin on February 15, 2026, 10:44 am
Quote from Robert on February 15, 2026, 10:38 am

How long before you started noticing anything? I'm only on day 3 currently but so far I've only noticed a bit of gassiness and some heart burn. That was with 1/2 cup of mixed yogurt the first day and 1 cup the second day. Since the wife wont eat it I'll continue doing 1 cup a day so I can use it all before it goes bad. 

I noticed the die-off reactions the 1st week. Fatigue, irritability, etc. I went a little too strong too fast, eating a few cups a day.

For the good effects, I think it was around week 3 as I backed off on week 2 to gradually bump things up again.

Each batch seemed to get stronger so I backed things down again around week 5.

It's a 1 step back, 3 steps forward kind of progress.

I ate a bunch the last few days and a good amount (really tart stuff) this morning and I'm laid out for the day. Really tired.

 

How did your dairy product turn out? Super cheesy even after refrigeration? Wife won't try it?

I don't think it will go bad but I understand the need to not risk it going bad.

 

I woke up today (day 4, havent had any yogurt yet) and am sore all over and have a sore throat and headache. Coincidence that I get the flu now? The wife just got over something so maybe. 

The microbiome—specifically in the nose, throat, and gut—significantly determines susceptibility to and severity of influenza infections. Specific bacteria, such as Streptococcus vestibularis, can reduce infection risk, while others, like Prevotella, may increase it. A robust, diverse microbiome improves immune response to the virus.
Key Microbiome Influences on Flu:
  • Respiratory Microbiome: The composition of nasal and throat bacteria acts as a first line of defense; higher levels of Streptococcus vestibularis are associated with 63% lower susceptibility to influenza B.
  • Gut-Lung Axis: The gut microbiota influences pulmonary antiviral defenses via immune system signaling. A healthy gut microbiome enhances the immune system's ability to fight influenza.
  • Metabolite Impact: Certain gut microbes break down dietary compounds (like flavonoids) to produce metabolites that protect against severe influenza, as shown in WashU Medicine research.
  • Vaccine Response: Gut microbiota composition affects the body's immune reaction to influenza vaccines, as described in Stanford Medicine reporting.
  • Flu-Induced Changes: Influenza infection can alter the gut microbiota, a process that might influence susceptibility to secondary bacterial pneumonia, notes a National Institutes of Health (NIH) study.
Modifying Risk:
  • Diet/Probiotics: Enhancing beneficial gut bacteria can improve immune defense.
  • Antibiotics: Misuse can destroy protective bacteria and reduce vaccine effectiveness.
  • Vaccination: Maternal vaccination, for example, can protect against microbiome disruptions.

 

 

 

The nasal and gut microbiomes significantly influence susceptibility to and severity of common colds by acting as a first line of defense and modulating immune responses. Specific nasal bacteria patterns are linked to cold severity, while cold weather exposure can disrupt gut microbial balance. Maintaining a balanced microbiome through diet and lifestyle supports immune function against respiratory infections.

Key Findings on Microbiome and Colds
  • Nasal Microbiome & Symptom Severity: Research from UVA Today identified six distinct types of nasal bacteria patterns that correlate with the severity and type of cold symptoms experienced. These patterns may influence viral load and how much virus is shed.
  • Impact of Cold Exposure: Exposure to cold temperatures can alter the gut microbiome, specifically decreasing the abundance of beneficial bacteria like Lactobacillus and increasing others, such as Bacteroidaceae.
  • Disruption by Infection: Upper respiratory infections (URIs) can disrupt the normal nasal microbiome, allowing opportunistic pathogens to thrive.
  • Gut-Immune Axis: A balanced gut microbiome is essential for immune health, as it acts as a barrier against pathogens, One on One PT notes.
  • Support Strategies: To maintain a healthy microbiome during cold season, it is recommended to consume a diet rich in fiber and diverse vegetables, manage stress, get adequate sleep, and consider probiotics, according to this Symprove article.
Connection to Metabolism
Cold exposure can trigger changes in the gut microbiota that may impact energy homeostasis and the body's thermogenesis, according to studies cited by Cell Press and ScienceDirect.com.
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This is blatant well poisoning

  • Vaccination: Maternal vaccination, for example, can protect against microbiome disruptions.

 

This makes sense as I've been outside in the cold over the weekend working on stuff

Cold exposure can trigger changes in the gut microbiota that may impact energy homeostasis and the body's thermogenesis, according to studies cited by Cell Press and ScienceDirect.com.
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