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#41 · October 29, 2025, 2:54 pm

And isn't chicken bathed in chlorine in the US? They try to import that crap to Switzerland. Kind of like an offer to the Donald to negotiate taxes. When this hit the news, the disgust at it in the comments section was palpable. Thanks, but no thanks.

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#42 · October 29, 2025, 2:56 pm

Hermes, it's $12/lb for ground beef, and up from there, from my organic farm beef people. They were $10/lb and raised it on account of feed prices just the other month. I loathe being dependent on them, but the store beef is disgusting by both my smell and my taste (it looks just fine).

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#43 · October 29, 2025, 3:54 pm

Strange that you ask about this because I bought minced chicken from the shop the other day and it tasted horrible, so much so that I will not be getting it. Minced turkey is fine. I would not be surprised if they’ve started adding vitamin A to things already (pure conjecture)

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10239981/

#44 · October 29, 2025, 4:11 pm

YIKES

#45 · October 29, 2025, 5:53 pm

all to me now. The only film I've watched these months (and I've seen plenty) which still struck the same chord (and more deeply, in fact) was Fitzcarraldo. I tried to watch As Good as it Gets and had to shut it off. I mean honestly, what rich and free man doesn't aspire to wed a single mother with a disabled child requiring around the clock care (predictive programming, anybody?). And Mosquito Coast, wth was the message of that film? The same message as Naked and Afraid? (Go it alone and you'll get shot like a dog!). Or even Brazil, why the hell did I ever recommend that drek to anybody? The message was: fight the system and you'll be eaten alive by paperwork, or tortured to the point of insanity. I recommended these films because I was toxic.

We were played and are being played a myriad number of ways. Frank Zappa was part of the manipulators in this kabuki and had a famous appropriate quote. He was raised in the military industrial complex. His Dad worked in chemical warfare unit.

“The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

Sooner or later my patience with the whole mess makes topics like this more interesting. Welcome to conspiracy theory land.

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

Solzhenitsyn wrote profound wisdom - the solution to tyranny is gossip. The grapevine is how we survive.

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#46 · October 29, 2025, 9:56 pm

Quote from Joseph on October 29, 2025, 9:56 pm

Quote from Joe2 on October 29, 2025, 5:53 pm

all to me now. The only film I've watched these months (and I've seen plenty) which still struck the same chord (and more deeply, in fact) was Fitzcarraldo. I tried to watch As Good as it Gets and had to shut it off. I mean honestly, what rich and free man doesn't aspire to wed a single mother with a disabled child requiring around the clock care (predictive programming, anybody?). And Mosquito Coast, wth was the message of that film? The same message as Naked and Afraid? (Go it alone and you'll get shot like a dog!). Or even Brazil, why the hell did I ever recommend that drek to anybody? The message was: fight the system and you'll be eaten alive by paperwork, or tortured to the point of insanity. I recommended these films because I was toxic.

We were played and are being played a myriad number of ways. Frank Zappa was part of the manipulators in this kabuki and had a famous appropriate quote. He was raised in the military industrial complex. His Dad worked in chemical warfare unit.

“The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

Sooner or later my patience with the whole mess makes topics like this more interesting. Welcome to conspiracy theory land.

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

Solzhenitsyn wrote profound wisdom - the solution to tyranny is gossip. The grapevine is how we survive.

@Joe2, I've been in conspiracy land over half my life. Solzhenitsyn's books had a profound effect on me. All of your problems in life pale to insignificance when compared to spending years of it in a gulag. It's the same reason I treasure my copy of "Murder In a Gentle Land" about the genocide in Cambodia.
I never read that expose on the hippies but it comes recommended. Culture creation. I never read Gary Webb's book "Dark Alliance" either (CIA drug running) mainly because I would prefer a hard copy but can't afford one (it's free online).
I've been looking into modern cult leaders the past two days, mainly because it's persistently cold and wet and dreary in these parts now. I found Leo Gura of actualized.org by a chance internet search for tobacco's emotional dampening effects, (he really is a monster, even if he deserves compassion for being created in the first place via sexual molestation as a child..) which led me to another cult leader named Teal Swan, whom his unfortunate followers highly regard, whose wiki page was so strong in discrediting a confession Teal had made that I had to hear it myself, leading me to the muddied-waterworld of Satanic Ritual Abuse - her confession is here and it's excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf3zcm4iOoM
This led me to a random expose of the "Satanic Panic" of the 80s which was a fine compilation of source material from the period, featuring everybody from Ted Gunderson to Geraldo Rivera to Michael Aquino, which I won't link since it wrapped up after almost 2 hours with a shameless promotion of the cointel operation "Q", thus discrediting everything which preceded.
For a likely more truthful expose of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, I'm instead recommending fiction. Here's the film I should have watched instead of the phony expose:
Satanic Panic - 2019 - https://old.bitchute.com/video/in2Panah7MQ6/
or this oldie but goldie from the actual period of time during which the "Panic" took place
Society - 1989 - https://old.bitchute.com/video/5nsMWbIwPuoU

(It still goes on today, it's only that the victims have been discredited ahead of time, before they even open their mouths, so they don't bother. Just look at the obligatory disclaimer on Teal's confession, where the climate change fact check would normally be:

Wikipedia • The Satanic panic is a moral panic consisting of over 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic ritual abuse, sometimes known as ritual abuse, starting in North America in the 1980s, spreading throughout many parts of the world by the late 1990s, and persisting today.

You got me onto a tangent @Joe2. In 20 words or less, the meat isn't right. It's being treated or altered or both. This could come down to something the smaller processors aren't doing to the carcasses (yet). When Alan Watt talked about how the big wigs considered food to be a weapon, I always assumed that meant the withholding of it, like the way Stalin handled Ukraine. But no, food is a weapon.

Quote from Joe2 on October 29, 2025, 5:53 pm

all to me now. The only film I've watched these months (and I've seen plenty) which still struck the same chord (and more deeply, in fact) was Fitzcarraldo. I tried to watch As Good as it Gets and had to shut it off. I mean honestly, what rich and free man doesn't aspire to wed a single mother with a disabled child requiring around the clock care (predictive programming, anybody?). And Mosquito Coast, wth was the message of that film? The same message as Naked and Afraid? (Go it alone and you'll get shot like a dog!). Or even Brazil, why the hell did I ever recommend that drek to anybody? The message was: fight the system and you'll be eaten alive by paperwork, or tortured to the point of insanity. I recommended these films because I was toxic.

We were played and are being played a myriad number of ways. Frank Zappa was part of the manipulators in this kabuki and had a famous appropriate quote. He was raised in the military industrial complex. His Dad worked in chemical warfare unit.

“The illusion of freedom [in America] will continue as long as it’s profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.”

Sooner or later my patience with the whole mess makes topics like this more interesting. Welcome to conspiracy theory land.

https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

Solzhenitsyn wrote profound wisdom - the solution to tyranny is gossip. The grapevine is how we survive.

@Joe2, I've been in conspiracy land over half my life. Solzhenitsyn's books had a profound effect on me. All of your problems in life pale to insignificance when compared to spending years of it in a gulag. It's the same reason I treasure my copy of "Murder In a Gentle Land" about the genocide in Cambodia.
I never read that expose on the hippies but it comes recommended. Culture creation. I never read Gary Webb's book "Dark Alliance" either (CIA drug running) mainly because I would prefer a hard copy but can't afford one (it's free online).
I've been looking into modern cult leaders the past two days, mainly because it's persistently cold and wet and dreary in these parts now. I found Leo Gura of actualized.org by a chance internet search for tobacco's emotional dampening effects, (he really is a monster, even if he deserves compassion for being created in the first place via sexual molestation as a child..) which led me to another cult leader named Teal Swan, whom his unfortunate followers highly regard, whose wiki page was so strong in discrediting a confession Teal had made that I had to hear it myself, leading me to the muddied-waterworld of Satanic Ritual Abuse - her confession is here and it's excellent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf3zcm4iOoM
This led me to a random expose of the "Satanic Panic" of the 80s which was a fine compilation of source material from the period, featuring everybody from Ted Gunderson to Geraldo Rivera to Michael Aquino, which I won't link since it wrapped up after almost 2 hours with a shameless promotion of the cointel operation "Q", thus discrediting everything which preceded.
For a likely more truthful expose of the Satanic Panic of the 1980s, I'm instead recommending fiction. Here's the film I should have watched instead of the phony expose:
Satanic Panic - 2019 - https://old.bitchute.com/video/in2Panah7MQ6/
or this oldie but goldie from the actual period of time during which the "Panic" took place
Society - 1989 - https://old.bitchute.com/video/5nsMWbIwPuoU

(It still goes on today, it's only that the victims have been discredited ahead of time, before they even open their mouths, so they don't bother. Just look at the obligatory disclaimer on Teal's confession, where the climate change fact check would normally be:

Wikipedia • The Satanic panic is a moral panic consisting of over 12,000 unsubstantiated cases of Satanic ritual abuse, sometimes known as ritual abuse, starting in North America in the 1980s, spreading throughout many parts of the world by the late 1990s, and persisting today.

You got me onto a tangent @Joe2. In 20 words or less, the meat isn't right. It's being treated or altered or both. This could come down to something the smaller processors aren't doing to the carcasses (yet). When Alan Watt talked about how the big wigs considered food to be a weapon, I always assumed that meant the withholding of it, like the way Stalin handled Ukraine. But no, food is a weapon.

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#47 · October 30, 2025, 2:14 am

Whatever can be done can be undone.

All weapons are tools. All tools are weapons.

All blades cut both ways.

Regardless what each says, does, thinks, we all answer to the same Guy.

(6451) Clip from Nobody's Fool (1994) - YouTube

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#48 · October 30, 2025, 12:58 pm

Here's a levelheaded treatise of the Satanic Panic. It's only there to get you roiled up, works predominantly on women. Men seem to be less emotionally vulnerable. Just another way to create chaos in society.

Click to access satanicpanic.pdf

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#49 · October 30, 2025, 2:42 pm

are we not entertaaaaained?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgUvhNlGV0s

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#50 · October 30, 2025, 5:00 pm

Quote from Hermes on October 30, 2025, 12:58 pm

Here's a levelheaded treatise of the Satanic Panic. It's only there to get you roiled up, works predominantly on women. Men seem to be less emotionally vulnerable. Just another way to create chaos in society.

https://mileswmathis.com/satanicpanic.pdf

The irony here is that Miles Mathis the contrarian extraordinaire agrees with the fact checkers, and only differs on minor points. I appreciate this link very much. I have to go see some friends at the moment but it gives me something to dig into in the days going forward. I have never trusted Miles. It is almost impossible not to like him, but that's a different thing.
His take here comes off glib. There is no mention of trauma based mind control, project Monarch, the FBIs investigation into the Finders in 1987, the Lawrence King scandal, any adult whistleblowers, Mormons, etc. My gut puts me in the camp of the self espoused (to this very day) victims and not the camp of the apologists, who for all we know use the very-hard-to-believe nature of satanic covens as cover for the worst crimes imaginable.

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