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Joe's Progress
Quote from Ginny on December 1, 2025, 5:05 am@jiri
I am not sure where I wrote I only eat red meat? I do only eat grass fed meat as grain fed meat - specifically corn fed - rips my gut in two!
When I started low A diet, I craved beef and had to force my self to eat other meats.
I also grow my own and eat white meat. Usually in the form of chicken, turkey or duck. While my feed is organic - corn and soy free, it does contain added vitamin A. I have spoke to the manufacturer about just leaving out the added vitamins but you would have thought I asked them to jump off a building. So in reality, my grain fed poultry who also free graze on grass probably has more vitamin A than my home grown grass fed beef.
Unfortunately, I can’t just take some synthetic zinc pills. Typically synthetic pills do more damage than good! When I run my food intake through a nutrient calculator it shows I am 300% + of the RDA of zinc. Which is also higher than my copper in take, from my understanding is a good thing.Joseph posted he was looking for a place to buy beef. I was only giving him another idea of where to look. My apologies!
@joseph-6 Sorry for hijacking your thread.
I am not sure where I wrote I only eat red meat? I do only eat grass fed meat as grain fed meat - specifically corn fed - rips my gut in two!
When I started low A diet, I craved beef and had to force my self to eat other meats.
I also grow my own and eat white meat. Usually in the form of chicken, turkey or duck. While my feed is organic - corn and soy free, it does contain added vitamin A. I have spoke to the manufacturer about just leaving out the added vitamins but you would have thought I asked them to jump off a building. So in reality, my grain fed poultry who also free graze on grass probably has more vitamin A than my home grown grass fed beef.
Unfortunately, I can’t just take some synthetic zinc pills. Typically synthetic pills do more damage than good! When I run my food intake through a nutrient calculator it shows I am 300% + of the RDA of zinc. Which is also higher than my copper in take, from my understanding is a good thing.
Joseph posted he was looking for a place to buy beef. I was only giving him another idea of where to look. My apologies!
@joseph-6 Sorry for hijacking your thread.
Quote from lil chick on December 1, 2025, 6:07 amI suppose that the reason many people here go in for beef (and traditionally raised) so heavily is because they are emulating Grant. Although I do think he ate buffalo for a long time.
Too much iron is a bad thing that can catch up with certain people, and Jiri has a point... Iron is just like vitamin A in that it is a thing we are all taught is needed, but can overload and cause some wicked problems.
We mix things up here at my house and include lean pork too. (not fatty, as it gives several here a tummy ache)
Its very interesting to me that Joseph detects something wrong with the supermarket meat. I hope it is just because he craves something that is healthy in the trad-raised meat, and not because there is something seriously wrong with the supermarket meat!
I suppose that the reason many people here go in for beef (and traditionally raised) so heavily is because they are emulating Grant. Although I do think he ate buffalo for a long time.
Too much iron is a bad thing that can catch up with certain people, and Jiri has a point... Iron is just like vitamin A in that it is a thing we are all taught is needed, but can overload and cause some wicked problems.
We mix things up here at my house and include lean pork too. (not fatty, as it gives several here a tummy ache)
Its very interesting to me that Joseph detects something wrong with the supermarket meat. I hope it is just because he craves something that is healthy in the trad-raised meat, and not because there is something seriously wrong with the supermarket meat!
Quote from Jiří on December 1, 2025, 6:12 am@ginny I mentioned your name when I talked about grass fed beef as you mentioned grass fed meat, but you didn't mentioned that grain fed beef gives you issues. So I pointed out that grass fed beef has decent amount of vit A.. But yeah I craved beef as well when I started vit A detox. I think it is due to high zinc/B vitamin content that helps with detox while all that vit A is coming out.. Btw yeah poultry can be high in vit A as well. That's why I was talking about breasts specifically as it is almost fat free so basically zero vit A..
@ginny I mentioned your name when I talked about grass fed beef as you mentioned grass fed meat, but you didn't mentioned that grain fed beef gives you issues. So I pointed out that grass fed beef has decent amount of vit A.. But yeah I craved beef as well when I started vit A detox. I think it is due to high zinc/B vitamin content that helps with detox while all that vit A is coming out.. Btw yeah poultry can be high in vit A as well. That's why I was talking about breasts specifically as it is almost fat free so basically zero vit A..
Quote from Joseph on December 3, 2025, 6:23 pm@lil chick, I got sick maybe two days after visiting with them. However I also salvaged a truckload of purlins and red lead roofing sheets off an old house down the street the very next day. Woke up feeling a little off, then went my round in a drizzling cold rain taking care of the animals and that pushed me over the edge.
I'm always attempting to figure out what precipitated the issue, and when I ponder it enough I usually figure out the likely cause.
I still credit the changing season - not just that kid is sick in my tiny circle, but my boss's cancer has flared up and taken a turn for the worse.
I wish this problem with the store beef were all in my head because then it could be overcome and I would save thousands. It's likely that I'm hypersensitive to the difference due to eating strictly local $$$ beef for 6 months before attempting the switch. If I used spices and sauces like normal folks do I probably wouldn't pick up on it.
Perhaps I am emulating Grant. He is a heck of a guy.
Lean white meat sounds good to me, but from my experience of store beef it will have to be from local farmers.
@Ginny, I'm also getting the dry lips - I used coconut oil on them before bed last night because it was getting painful.
@Jiri, the turkey breast is a good suggestion. Next time I'm at the farmer's market I'm looking into it.I was able to harvest more boards from another building in our small town today. While I don't feel the best it doesn't seem to be slowing me down much. There's always a tradeoff. Feeling like this gives me a gentler, softer affect when, for example, seeing my friend at the grocery store today. Humble pie isn't so bad.
@lil chick, I got sick maybe two days after visiting with them. However I also salvaged a truckload of purlins and red lead roofing sheets off an old house down the street the very next day. Woke up feeling a little off, then went my round in a drizzling cold rain taking care of the animals and that pushed me over the edge.
I'm always attempting to figure out what precipitated the issue, and when I ponder it enough I usually figure out the likely cause.
I still credit the changing season - not just that kid is sick in my tiny circle, but my boss's cancer has flared up and taken a turn for the worse.
I wish this problem with the store beef were all in my head because then it could be overcome and I would save thousands. It's likely that I'm hypersensitive to the difference due to eating strictly local $$$ beef for 6 months before attempting the switch. If I used spices and sauces like normal folks do I probably wouldn't pick up on it.
Perhaps I am emulating Grant. He is a heck of a guy.
Lean white meat sounds good to me, but from my experience of store beef it will have to be from local farmers.
@Ginny, I'm also getting the dry lips - I used coconut oil on them before bed last night because it was getting painful.
@Jiri, the turkey breast is a good suggestion. Next time I'm at the farmer's market I'm looking into it.
I was able to harvest more boards from another building in our small town today. While I don't feel the best it doesn't seem to be slowing me down much. There's always a tradeoff. Feeling like this gives me a gentler, softer affect when, for example, seeing my friend at the grocery store today. Humble pie isn't so bad.
Quote from lil chick on December 4, 2025, 5:46 amWe had a cute little grocery ham this week and the texture was different. Mealy. (as opposed to meaty) Maybe the brand is using more "meat glue" than in the past.
I think you've inspired me to go back to shopping semi-local. The nearest farm to me is very boutique, which has discouraged me from shopping local. I might have to instead go and buy somewhere slightly farther away, and in bulk.
The change of seasons *is* a stressor... and for the animals too. Toughens you up, LOL
Coconut oil doesn't seem to help my lips or hands very much. A long time back I read about a baby with rosacea and his mom would bathe him and coat his rosacea (while still damp) with a thin coat of vaseline. This is what helps me, but I haven't experimented much (as a lazy person when it comes to "beauty"). I would like to try other things like shea and especially a good waxy tallow. My friend was non-lazy and she would make a balm in her blender. Her balm had everything that would be needed, a fat, water, and melted beeswax. I think those three things are key. 1.Water (to hydrate), 2.a fat or oil (to replace what you aren't making enough of) and 3.something waxy and impervious to protect from the dry air. The word for a super-blended fat/water combo is "an emulsion". (mayonnaise is an example of an emulsion). I try to create an emulsion with water and vaseline in my hands when I use a bit of it to help with cracking lips or heels.
We had a cute little grocery ham this week and the texture was different. Mealy. (as opposed to meaty) Maybe the brand is using more "meat glue" than in the past.
I think you've inspired me to go back to shopping semi-local. The nearest farm to me is very boutique, which has discouraged me from shopping local. I might have to instead go and buy somewhere slightly farther away, and in bulk.
The change of seasons *is* a stressor... and for the animals too. Toughens you up, LOL
Coconut oil doesn't seem to help my lips or hands very much. A long time back I read about a baby with rosacea and his mom would bathe him and coat his rosacea (while still damp) with a thin coat of vaseline. This is what helps me, but I haven't experimented much (as a lazy person when it comes to "beauty"). I would like to try other things like shea and especially a good waxy tallow. My friend was non-lazy and she would make a balm in her blender. Her balm had everything that would be needed, a fat, water, and melted beeswax. I think those three things are key. 1.Water (to hydrate), 2.a fat or oil (to replace what you aren't making enough of) and 3.something waxy and impervious to protect from the dry air. The word for a super-blended fat/water combo is "an emulsion". (mayonnaise is an example of an emulsion). I try to create an emulsion with water and vaseline in my hands when I use a bit of it to help with cracking lips or heels.