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Quote from bludicka on July 12, 2019, 3:25 am

If you soak older almonds or sunflower seeds - they are partially oxidized but when they germinate a little, they come to life and contain no oxidized fats.

 

I wonder if a person was doing a lot of a certain seed or nut it might be best to find a farmer (and I think they do advertise through the wapf magazine) pay for a year's supply, get it as soon as picked and store it properly.

lil chick: nice to hear that, thank you. I live in Switzerland and speak french german and serbo croatian. I learned english through many travels reading and music but never really know how native english-speaking persons understand what I write or say and it is still not as natural as I would like it to be for me to explain things in english. I always feel it is not as "complete" as in slavic for example.

Thanks for your response Dino! Sorry I didn't try your exercise before commenting but I just wasn't comfortable attempting it. (I'll explain below). I'm glad it works for you and I'm sure it has helped many others or you wouldn't be sharing it. I guess I was just offering a note of caution.

A few years back I tried that Frolov breathing device. It seemed easier at the time than following simple, yet boring breathing reduction exercises...a Buteyko short-cut! As you probably know, it's a device that slows the breathing rate by long, slow exhalations against varying levels of water in a container, with, in effect, purse-lipped breathing.

It didn't work for me. I might have been doing it wrong but I followed the instructions as best I could. It is supposed to increase CO2 from the reduced breathing rate but I'm pretty sure now I was breathing out too much CO2 from the prolonged exhalations!  It took a few days but I became very anxious and my BP sky-rocketed. It also took me awhile to put 2 and 2 together. I know your method is a bit different but you can maybe understand why I am reluctant to try anything similar to it. But that's just me!

I totally understand where you are coming from but I really don't mind a longer, slower route to better health these days. Kind of like my present low A diet. It's slow, up and down, but hopefully heading in the right direction...seems to be.

I agree with lil-chick. Your english is very good. I wouldn't have known.
best to you too, Sheila

Dino, 1.  is snoring part of this?  And 2.  could there be a limit to what breathing can detox?

  1.  I was thinking that my husband (who does appear A-toxic) fits your description of a person with good breathing habits.  I'm not really sure why he would be the exception (in our society) but he has a booming rich basso voice and is quite larger than life personality-wise.  But then I realized he does snore.   So maybe he isn't detoxing very good at night.

2.  And then I also want to point out that one of my cats is also A-toxic.  I'm feeling very guilty about all the entities I've encouraged to eat more vitamin A foods.  Do cats and dogs have bad breathing?

The cat/dog thing makes me think that breathing may be part of the answer, but there may be a level of "poisoning" going on here that even breathing can't keep up with?  (The dose makes the poison -- Paraclesus)

SheilA: I understand your fear. Buteyko should never be practiced without a very competent "teacher" as it can easily lead to anxiety or panic attacks since you play with co2 and pH etc. The breathing technique I explain under #1 should not do that if you do it well and it is very easy to know if you do it well: you should almost immediately feel much more relaxed and energized at the same time.

lilchick: I have no experience with animals so cannot comment on that but I suppose animals will resume perfect breathing once you stop poisoning them. Diet for them should be 100% carnivorous with no additives or mixture (in Switzerland cats and dogs foods have carrots etc. in the mix which is complete nonsense). For your husband "mouth tapes" can be literally life saving so do a research you will find easily information on that. There is a swedish company who sells those tapes and send it for free worldwide but cannot remember the name. Your husband should feel enormous difference after a few nights with the tape on mouth.

Generally speaking whatever is toxic for the body will make breathing difficult as it is the major pathway for detoxification. I dont know if you can detoxify everything by good breathing but I am quite confident that you can double or triple your detoxification while easing its symptoms with very good breathing. I also know people who applied the simple technique I explain in the first post and have seen their life completely changed. The only problem is that I have quite a difficult time teaching it to children as it requires daily repetition for some time and children have apparently not enough discipline for that but any adult who doesnt overdo it can see drastic changes rapidly and without risk in my opinion.

A "side effect" I've heard from a few friends of mine is that their libido has increased dramatically after adopting the breathing for a few weeks.

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I love the idea of another way into the vicious cycle.  The more ways we can get in, the better.

Once a person/animal is VA toxic, wondering "why" might not get anywhere!    The "why" might remain a mystery.

Heh Dino, agreed about getting some help with the breathing exercises! I seem to have learned the hard way a lot in the past.

After recently reading the Stark's book, 'the carbon dioxide syndrome', I decided to order their home course. It hasn't arrived yet. I realize I might not have the discipline to do the exercises daily on my own so I have also been corresponding with a Buteyko practitioner in my province and I'll probably take her course one-to-one online eventually. The reason I'm doing this is because I still have a problem with high blood pressure.

Someone recently commented here that once they were unable to donate blood due to their BP being too high. Well, that happened to me last month! I'm going to try donating again next month. Seems if I get anxious at all it gets very high. I was glad to hear he got his BP down with the low A diet. Maybe it's the age difference that this problem isn't going away for me. (who knows?)

Hidden chronic over-breathing lowers one's Co2 pressure ; one of the effects being constriction of smooth muscle in your body. In an asthmatic, this means the smooth muscle around the bronchial tree contracts. Low CO2  pressure, in another person, could result in the smooth muscle around the arteries contracting, causing hypertension. Anyway, I'm going to give it a try.

lil Chick, (my hubby snores too). According to Buteyko theory, snoring at night is over-breathing and indicates that that person over-breathes during the day as well. Good one page overview :http://www.buteykotoronto.com/buteyko-and-breathing

It's amazing to learn how something like hidden chronic hyperventilation can have so many metabolic and physical consequences. The small blocked-out area on page 3 of this pdf summarizes the physiological effects of hyperventilation. Nothing your doctor could argue with. http://www.thebreathconnection.com/Breathing%20can%20damage%20your%20health..pdf

Anyway, I've decided I need to do this extra thing too.  I'm hoping between the diet and the breathing, I'll be good.

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I should also add (I always do this!) that the reason I think my BP skyrocketed while being screened for donating blood is not due to anything with the low A diet. The nurse took my hemoglobin and it was 'man-size' she said. It was 175, higher than last time I donated by 20. This kind of shocked me so bingo my BP went up too high to donate that day. Anyway, at first I thought maybe it was because I was eating more beef than usual. I do have a ferritin level that is high normal even after donating many units of blood. Now I'm thinking the high Hgb could be due to my body dumping iron...the kind from bread flour which I've eaten my whole life. I saved this from a comment in the Ray Peat forum. Sorry I don't have the name of the person who wrote it.

Especially in the case of lean beef, if you look at the nutritional profile of beef, very high in most B-vitamins(especially B6, B12, B2, B3) allowing the iron in the red meat to be utilized properly. Iron is needed to create L-dopa then B6 to make dopamine for example. Iron fortified foods(enriched flour products) contain iron that is not only hard to absorb, but harder to utilize because its not a natural occuring form(heme is superior to nonheme because the iron in our bodies is heme, in the same way we do better with natural B12 then synthetic B12), lacking the natural B vitamins and high quality protein to utilize the mineral.

Iron is given a bad rap because the body has no method of excretion of iron in appreciable quantities and its blamed for many health problems especially in peatland. Its common to suggest avoiding iron especially heme iron and yet if iron was so dangerous why would our bodies hold onto it so desperately?

The likely answer is its heme-iron sources that are whats going to keep bodily iron regulated and utilized properly, not enriched flours or plant iron. Thats why red meat eating is causing a drop in iron levels, because the iron is being utilized properly because its a natural iron source which the human body is familiar with as opposed to iron shavings or plant irons which we are terrible at absorbing feeding bacterial growth in the gut while lacking cofactors for whatever iron is absorbed. Red meat builds the body and the brain(through increased production of neurotransmitters, especially dopamine). Iron shavings build up the iron stores letting iron sit there and literally kill you.

I've read a few books about iron accumulation. A short while ago I started buying unfortified flour (mailed from the states- ridiculous that I can't get it in Canada) I'm now thinking maybe I'm just getting rid of the iron 'filings' accumulated over the years. That thought alone relaxes me. Plus, next time I donate blood, I'll have them do my BP before the finger prick. Honestly, I think it's best to avoid all the government mandated fortification of our foods! We all know about RP now, I fear the rest is not good for our health either. In any case I would like to not have my BP go sky high every time I become anxious about something.
That's all. Cheers!

Interesting Sheila!   Iron is an important topic for sure and it is frustrating that we have to go to such great lengths to find food that hasn't been tampered with.

You inspired a bunch of thoughts about blood pressure, I put them here at first, then decided to put them in their own thread.

 

2nd thoughts about something I wrote above. I was mostly blaming iron fortification of flour (still think it's not a good thing at all) but it could be that my big increase in hemoglobin in just a few months could very well be due to eating more heme iron from beef. I've been eating more beef for sure since the end of February with my rice meals. This would be great for someone who is anemic but I seem to accumulate iron easily whether heme or non-heme so I'll have to switch to other protein sources. I was also taking more Vitamin C which apparently increases iron absorption.

I was interested to read that one/some? of Garrett Smith's patients lowered their ferritin on a low A diet.

This iron business reminded me of an article I read a few years back. It was written by a group of people who researched 'iron and health' quite thoroughly.

Lil-chick, you will be interested in their take on traditional diets; how some cultures who had access to meat, paired the foods they had access to, not scientifically but by what tasted good, which turns out, prevented iron overload. And other cultures whose diets were low in meat, increased their iron status by preparing their foods to minimize phytic acid, (by soaking, fermentation, etc.) Phytic acid interferes with iron absorption. http://freetheanimal.com/2015/06/enrichment-theory-everything.html

Hope I can donate blood next month which is the best way to lower iron.

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