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Male Pattern Baldness
Quote from lil chick on July 22, 2019, 6:11 amQuote from who_am_i on July 22, 2019, 12:02 amMaybe some people here know of Dr. Robert Morse, a naturopath who heals people by putting them on concord grapes and herbal tinctures. He has got some interesting views on baldness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNijxjR6hQ
He speaks a lot about "acids" and "systemic acidosis", but if you read "retinoic acid" and "vitamin A toxicity" instead it begins to make more sense.
Your last paragraph should be emailed to every natural practitioner in the world.
Quote from who_am_i on July 22, 2019, 12:02 amMaybe some people here know of Dr. Robert Morse, a naturopath who heals people by putting them on concord grapes and herbal tinctures. He has got some interesting views on baldness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mNijxjR6hQ
He speaks a lot about "acids" and "systemic acidosis", but if you read "retinoic acid" and "vitamin A toxicity" instead it begins to make more sense.
Your last paragraph should be emailed to every natural practitioner in the world.
Quote from who_am_i on September 16, 2019, 1:07 amI am in month 10 and I am now 100% sure I see new hairs popping up in the temple area and slowly but gradually getting thicker. I thought I was delusional at first but it became so noticeable these last weeks especially when my hair were wet after showering. I also noticed this summer (after tanning a lot) that all along my old "original" hairline I see my childhood freckles reappearing which I haven't had since I was 15 maybe, if this is a good sign which I think it is, I am very optimistic I will recover a lot of hair. Very exciting.
Other observations:
-The top of my head keeps on getting thicker too
-Healthier, more youthful hair overall
-Scalp inflammation is way way down and dandruff/itchiness eliminated like 90%
-Slight Hair greying (though barely noticeable at all on the sides) did not reverse yet.
I am 32 and at Norwood 2. I began losing hair around 10 years ago. I have taken before pictures at around 7 months in, which I will share when my regrowth is substantial.
I am in month 10 and I am now 100% sure I see new hairs popping up in the temple area and slowly but gradually getting thicker. I thought I was delusional at first but it became so noticeable these last weeks especially when my hair were wet after showering. I also noticed this summer (after tanning a lot) that all along my old "original" hairline I see my childhood freckles reappearing which I haven't had since I was 15 maybe, if this is a good sign which I think it is, I am very optimistic I will recover a lot of hair. Very exciting.
Other observations:
-The top of my head keeps on getting thicker too
-Healthier, more youthful hair overall
-Scalp inflammation is way way down and dandruff/itchiness eliminated like 90%
-Slight Hair greying (though barely noticeable at all on the sides) did not reverse yet.
I am 32 and at Norwood 2. I began losing hair around 10 years ago. I have taken before pictures at around 7 months in, which I will share when my regrowth is substantial.
Quote from who_am_i on September 16, 2019, 1:18 amI also think my hair loss started when I did a crash diet in my early twenties, losing around 35 kg in 3 months. I suppose I released a lot of VA formerly stored in fat tissues which must have flooded my system and triggered the MPB. It all makes sense now. My 3 years younger brother has a full head of hair by comparison.
I also think my hair loss started when I did a crash diet in my early twenties, losing around 35 kg in 3 months. I suppose I released a lot of VA formerly stored in fat tissues which must have flooded my system and triggered the MPB. It all makes sense now. My 3 years younger brother has a full head of hair by comparison.
Quote from Tropico on October 9, 2019, 1:58 pmHair darkening and new growth associated with etretinate therapy
https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(96)90048-1/abstract
Wikipedia
Etretinate is a highly lipophilic, aromatic retinoid. It is stored and released from adipose tissue, so its effects can continue long after dosage stops. It is detectable in the plasma for up to three years following therapy. Etretinate has a low therapeutic index and a long elimination half-life (t1/2) of 120 days,[1] which make dosing difficult
A super toxic retinol derivate for psoriasis, but darkens hair/new growth... bizarre.
Hair darkening and new growth associated with etretinate therapy
https://www.jaad.org/article/S0190-9622(96)90048-1/abstract
Wikipedia
Etretinate is a highly lipophilic, aromatic retinoid. It is stored and released from adipose tissue, so its effects can continue long after dosage stops. It is detectable in the plasma for up to three years following therapy. Etretinate has a low therapeutic index and a long elimination half-life (t1/2) of 120 days,[1] which make dosing difficult
A super toxic retinol derivate for psoriasis, but darkens hair/new growth... bizarre.
Quote from tim on October 9, 2019, 3:05 pm@who_am_i
This is really good news.
Are you taking any supplements? Are you doing anything else that might be helping hair growth? How strictly are you following the low VA diet?
This is really good news.
Are you taking any supplements? Are you doing anything else that might be helping hair growth? How strictly are you following the low VA diet?
Quote from tim on December 15, 2019, 4:47 pmThis study used: calcium, vitamin D3, magnesium, iron, folic acid, vitamin C, omega 3, B - complex, biotin along with minoxidil to get better results than minoxidil and finasteride together. Interesting that many of the nutrients they chose all counteract Vitamin A.
https://parjournal.net/article/view/2220
Controlled clinical trial for evaluation of hair growth with low dose cyclical nutrition therapy in men and women without the use of finasteride
Abstract
Aim: To evaluate possible results with the stimulation use of minoxidil and the strengthening of hair roots with nutritional cyclical supplements, resulting in increased hair regrowth, without the use of anti androgens and enzyme blockers.Methods: This prospective controlled clinical trial compares the current acknowledged form of treatment for hair loss within two controlled groups for both men and women against the use of cyclical nutritional therapy and minoxidil 2%. One hundred patients in each of the 4 groups, a total of 400 patients, were followed for 1 year. The progress was evaluated every 2 months with computerised measurements of hair density, hair calibre, global photography and uniquely designed self-assessment scores.
Results: The use of nutritional supplements showed consistent improvements in both treatment groups of men and women against the controlled groups with a correction of hair fall and minimum 18% increased density within 2 months with further improvement to a maximum of 156% over 1 year.
Conclusion: Hair loss occurs when weak, sensitive, follicles are affected by multiple causes. Hair regrowth can be achieved consistently and safely by strengthening the hair roots and promoting hair growth without necessarily depending on the use of anti androgens.
Control group for men (CM) and control group for women (CW): CM consisted of 100 volunteer male patients who were between 25 to 50 years of age and had hair loss between Norwood Hamilton grade III to grade V. The male control group received 1 mg finasteride every day and application of 2% minoxidil lotion 2 times a day, 1 mL in the morning after bath and 1 mL in the evening before sleep every day.
Control group for women consisted of 100 volunteer female patients who were between 25 to 50 years of age and had hair loss Ludwig grade II and III. The female control group did not receive finasteride, but were prescribed the application of 2% minoxidil lotion 1 mL, 2 times a day, morning after bath and evening before sleep.
Treatment group for men (TM) and treatment group for women (TW): Treatment groups for both men and women followed the same protocol. Patients in both the groups did not receive finasteride. Both men and women treatment group applied 2% minoxidil lotion 1 mL, 2 times a day, morning after their shower/bath and again in the evening prior to sleep. In addition, they received nutritional supplements which included antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, omega 3, amino acids and biotin. In order to avoid inter nutrient interactions, improve absorption and have better efficiency we planned to have these supplements in synergistic combinations over a 3 day cycle [Table 3].
This study used: calcium, vitamin D3, magnesium, iron, folic acid, vitamin C, omega 3, B - complex, biotin along with minoxidil to get better results than minoxidil and finasteride together. Interesting that many of the nutrients they chose all counteract Vitamin A.
https://parjournal.net/article/view/2220
Controlled clinical trial for evaluation of hair growth with low dose cyclical nutrition therapy in men and women without the use of finasteride
Abstract
Aim: To evaluate possible results with the stimulation use of minoxidil and the strengthening of hair roots with nutritional cyclical supplements, resulting in increased hair regrowth, without the use of anti androgens and enzyme blockers.Methods: This prospective controlled clinical trial compares the current acknowledged form of treatment for hair loss within two controlled groups for both men and women against the use of cyclical nutritional therapy and minoxidil 2%. One hundred patients in each of the 4 groups, a total of 400 patients, were followed for 1 year. The progress was evaluated every 2 months with computerised measurements of hair density, hair calibre, global photography and uniquely designed self-assessment scores.
Results: The use of nutritional supplements showed consistent improvements in both treatment groups of men and women against the controlled groups with a correction of hair fall and minimum 18% increased density within 2 months with further improvement to a maximum of 156% over 1 year.
Conclusion: Hair loss occurs when weak, sensitive, follicles are affected by multiple causes. Hair regrowth can be achieved consistently and safely by strengthening the hair roots and promoting hair growth without necessarily depending on the use of anti androgens.
Control group for men (CM) and control group for women (CW): CM consisted of 100 volunteer male patients who were between 25 to 50 years of age and had hair loss between Norwood Hamilton grade III to grade V. The male control group received 1 mg finasteride every day and application of 2% minoxidil lotion 2 times a day, 1 mL in the morning after bath and 1 mL in the evening before sleep every day.
Control group for women consisted of 100 volunteer female patients who were between 25 to 50 years of age and had hair loss Ludwig grade II and III. The female control group did not receive finasteride, but were prescribed the application of 2% minoxidil lotion 1 mL, 2 times a day, morning after bath and evening before sleep.
Treatment group for men (TM) and treatment group for women (TW): Treatment groups for both men and women followed the same protocol. Patients in both the groups did not receive finasteride. Both men and women treatment group applied 2% minoxidil lotion 1 mL, 2 times a day, morning after their shower/bath and again in the evening prior to sleep. In addition, they received nutritional supplements which included antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, omega 3, amino acids and biotin. In order to avoid inter nutrient interactions, improve absorption and have better efficiency we planned to have these supplements in synergistic combinations over a 3 day cycle [Table 3].
Quote from tim on May 2, 2020, 4:53 pmQuote from who_am_i on September 16, 2019, 1:07 amI am in month 10 and I am now 100% sure I see new hairs popping up in the temple area and slowly but gradually getting thicker. I thought I was delusional at first but it became so noticeable these last weeks especially when my hair were wet after showering. I also noticed this summer (after tanning a lot) that all along my old "original" hairline I see my childhood freckles reappearing which I haven't had since I was 15 maybe, if this is a good sign which I think it is, I am very optimistic I will recover a lot of hair. Very exciting.
Other observations:
-The top of my head keeps on getting thicker too
-Healthier, more youthful hair overall
-Scalp inflammation is way way down and dandruff/itchiness eliminated like 90%
-Slight Hair greying (though barely noticeable at all on the sides) did not reverse yet.
I am 32 and at Norwood 2. I began losing hair around 10 years ago. I have taken before pictures at around 7 months in, which I will share when my regrowth is substantial.
I'd be keen to hear of any progess?
I haven't seen any new hair after 14 months. I'm still having detox symptoms though so it may be a bit premature to expect anything while i'm still va toxic.
Quote from who_am_i on September 16, 2019, 1:07 amI am in month 10 and I am now 100% sure I see new hairs popping up in the temple area and slowly but gradually getting thicker. I thought I was delusional at first but it became so noticeable these last weeks especially when my hair were wet after showering. I also noticed this summer (after tanning a lot) that all along my old "original" hairline I see my childhood freckles reappearing which I haven't had since I was 15 maybe, if this is a good sign which I think it is, I am very optimistic I will recover a lot of hair. Very exciting.
Other observations:
-The top of my head keeps on getting thicker too
-Healthier, more youthful hair overall
-Scalp inflammation is way way down and dandruff/itchiness eliminated like 90%
-Slight Hair greying (though barely noticeable at all on the sides) did not reverse yet.
I am 32 and at Norwood 2. I began losing hair around 10 years ago. I have taken before pictures at around 7 months in, which I will share when my regrowth is substantial.
I'd be keen to hear of any progess?
I haven't seen any new hair after 14 months. I'm still having detox symptoms though so it may be a bit premature to expect anything while i'm still va toxic.
Quote from Liz on May 15, 2020, 7:49 amI do not, for obvious reasons, have mpb. But I wanted to share anyway that my hair has gotten ridiculously thick (thickest it has ever been in my life) and I have new hair growth along my hairline filling in as well. This I find very fascinating as I never thought such a thing was possible.
Hairs are still coming in white, but I have had white hairs grow back dark and then back to white. Same with mole hairs.
However hair loss has exceeded again after starting synarel to try to control my endometriosis. I don't know how my body is handling it but right now I don't care. I just focus on living 🙂
Anyway just wanted to share.
I do not, for obvious reasons, have mpb. But I wanted to share anyway that my hair has gotten ridiculously thick (thickest it has ever been in my life) and I have new hair growth along my hairline filling in as well. This I find very fascinating as I never thought such a thing was possible.
Hairs are still coming in white, but I have had white hairs grow back dark and then back to white. Same with mole hairs.
However hair loss has exceeded again after starting synarel to try to control my endometriosis. I don't know how my body is handling it but right now I don't care. I just focus on living 🙂
Anyway just wanted to share.
Quote from tim on May 15, 2020, 5:48 pm@liz
Thanks for sharing that Liz, sounds very promising.
I've still got fairly high serum retinol levels so I'm hoping I'll see some progress with my hair as they get lower. I've already seen skin issues disappear that didn't respond to anything else so I'm hopeful.
Thanks for sharing that Liz, sounds very promising.
I've still got fairly high serum retinol levels so I'm hoping I'll see some progress with my hair as they get lower. I've already seen skin issues disappear that didn't respond to anything else so I'm hopeful.