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Matt Stone fixing night blindness with vit A
Also, to make it more scientific and less anecdotal we would need people to use a retinol supplement instead of food to eliminate other possible nutrients.
The week after lyl g purged some of his oldest friends who questioned his authoritay, he called his old friend, Matt Stone in to do an interview.
Ironic considering context. His single oldest friend on LYL wrote scathing page outlining lyl g's bad faith on calcium and other ideas (zeolite? msg?). That comment was deleted immediately and that friend blocked along with a bunch of us. At least we forced his hand to admit calcium helps and is not a toxin.
For years had argued with lyl g that he needed to interview people in his weekly livestreams. Especially after he stopped interviewing Grant. He did a couple with Kelsey. One or two with Beth and Wardee. No one else though. No Karen Hurd, Shawn Baker, Thor Torrens, Judy Cho or any other folk who do not completely agree with everything he says. His last interview with Grant was telling. How many times did Grant get interrupted for lyl g to reinterpret Grant's beliefs to his viewers?
For years he cautioned against reading his book with Matt. He is not proud of his work prior to LYL for good reason. Matt's work is more nefarious. Interesting that in this video Matt outlined that he was never low vA. He was moderate vA intake for 7 years to help control his asthma even as he maintained his junk food diet faithfully. He wrote a comment on Grant's post that he went extremely low vA for the last 7 months because it helped his asthma enough that now he can enjoy cats and dogs without terrible asthma.
Also worth noting in this video that he insists his health is better eating 5 to 10 oreos a day and drinking 2 liters of various corn syrup water a day - soda, gatorade, energy drinks, Hi-C, all sorts of junk. Wonder what self contradictions Stone will make tomorrow.
Love Your Liver Livestream #209: Matt Stone of 180DegreeHealth & I Discussing #vitaminAtoxicity!
Yah, I guess it could be that he damaged his eyes and then he fixed them over the course of some time, and his high VA meal just co-incided with the body fixing them.
Quote from Janelle525 on November 19, 2025, 1:26 pmI don't trust much of what he says. It's all anecdotal. Did he get a blood vitamin A test? I did because I had been consuming such low amounts and it proved my dry eye was not low vitamin A, nor could my less than great night vision as I still had pretty normal values in my blood.
I'm approaching 7 years of low vitamin A. The last couple of years, I've started to eat eggs, and most recently, some cheese (BTW, I'm still way below the RDA, probably about half or less, mostly depending on how much cheese I eat. Oddly, eggs don't contain that much A). My serum vitamin A levels are nowhere near being deficient. You're right; only blood serum levels dropping over years would even indicate depletion is actually happening, so I don't trust Matt Stone on this one either.
I've said this multiple times, but it's worth repeating: I think for some people, low vitamin A depletion takes decades, not just a few years. I don't know why Grant reached serum blood levels that put him in the deficient range within years. There are clearly puzzle pieces missing in how to fastest AND safest deplete vitamin A.
Simply avoiding A is not enough, at least for half the people who start the endeavor. For them, it's steady but consistent improvement of wellbeing and health markers. For the rest, it's way more tedious, an almost imperceptible change over many, many years.
Quote from lil chick on November 19, 2025, 2:38 pmYah, I guess it could be that he damaged his eyes and then he fixed them over the course of some time, and his high VA meal just co-incided with the body fixing them.
Classic duration paradox. Temporary relief by restarting intox and stalling detox. No wonder he outlines that eating regular low dose vA meals did not help but eating one big one helped.
In my case I can provoke dry eyes by eating lutein foods. With beta-carotene too, in a lesser degree. Not sure about night blindness, how does one correctly diagnose that.. I think M. Stone should provide some serum level (well below reference range) test to claim his vision problems were caused by vit A deficiency.
Oh darn maybe it's not such big news after all.
Perhaps whenever I start going around the mobius strip (I felt it today) of trying to figure out why overload symptoms are the same as deficiency symptoms... my mantra should just be joe2's : "classic duration paradox".
Maybe I'm lucky that I don't have the serious asthma he has, but my asthma seems to be controlled with my medium-low diet, avoiding sulfites as much as possible, and nibbling peanuts every other day or so... for the molybdenum.
If Matt were a good faith actor, he would test his theory and slam some vA and record the results accurately. Good luck on him doing that. How many years did he teach weight loss youtubes while hiding his frame off camera before finally outing himself, apologizing and disappearing?
@joe2 I think Matt had pretty low vit A diet all those years. I don't think he was eating organ meats, dairy etc.. What could be a problem in his high refined carb diet is other micronutrient depletion and that can cause issues as well. I told him that it is simply not a good idea to keep eating a lot of empty calories chronically long term..
I agree that without any blood testing it is just he said she said, but I don't think that his night blindness got worse because he was detoxing vit A and when he ate high vit A meal in cleared up vit A from the blood and that improved his vision in the night. That doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe if he was new into low vit A diet. But that really is not his case.
Btw I have to remind you guys that not even Grant did any extensive blood testing during all his work on vit A. We see serum vit A. But we have no idea about other body functions like thyroid and other hormones profile over the years etc. All you have is his word from him how he feels. You probably say well why would Grant lie. He doesn't sell anything. That is correct. But he fully committed to the idea that vit A is nothing but toxin and to admit that it is not the case would not be easy.. I can imagine.. I am talking about the period after he fixed his kidney and skin issues. I am not questioning that it saved his life probably and fixed his skin issues. I would be dead as well if I didn't found Matt Stone blog and after that Grant. I am questioning the period of the time when you do low vit A for 5+years and your serum numbers are close to deficient. Where you are no longer fixing any issues that you had during toxicity days..
I simply think that it is important to be open minded and question everything all the time especially our own ideas.
Unfortunately what I see here like on any other forum(except one that I know where no one single substance is called good or bad except stuff like mercury obviously heh, but it is all about the context. Always. But that forum is almost dead now..) is dogmatic view point where every thinking starts with "ok so we know that vit A is just toxic and so can't help with any issues. So how we can explain whatever we are talking about."
Vegans will do the same "ok so we know animal foods are unhealthy so not eating them can't be a problem. So why it could be that I am aging so fast and have all those health issues" etc..
I think it is the worst thing that can happen. Because at that point you are no longer seeking real truth and you are just committed to something like it is your religion that can't be questioned.
At least what I really respect about Grant he is not giving ban left and right to everyone who says something what completely doesn't agree with his ideas.(at lest so far. Maybe I will get banned for this comment lol heh)