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Mental health reactions from resistant starch?
Wow I'm having a fairly difficult time with mental health; symptoms are coming and going without me knowing why. That's not too abnormal for me, but it's stronger than usual, and long-term I do seem to be spiraling downward.
I was on rice and black beans for about a week and mental health seemed okay, but I couldn't seem to focus for work. Then I switched to rice and pea protein, and my focus noticeably improved, but also intermittent anxiety and crying and suicidal ideation started. I swing between feeling okay vs. pretty rattled and thinking of suicide and "lump in the gut" feeling.
I've been speculating that the 100 ml/day extra light olive oil I'm been adding is causing problems, but removing it drastically cuts down my calories, yikes. I've eaten huge amounts of olive oil for weeks before, so it seems unlikely that it's too big of a culprit.
Is there a carb source that's safer than plain cooked medium-grain rice?
Is there a fat source that's safer than extra light olive oil?
I am taking a multi-mineral and B-50 -- anything else I need for a minimal diet?
It does seem like my worst times correlate with cold/windy weather; even though I mostly stay inside and don't expose skin to sunlight... maybe cold air affects my lungs?
Quote from dan on February 24, 2019, 3:32 amWow I'm having a fairly difficult time with mental health; symptoms are coming and going without me knowing why. That's not too abnormal for me, but it's stronger than usual, and long-term I do seem to be spiraling downward.
I was on rice and black beans for about a week and mental health seemed okay, but I couldn't seem to focus for work. Then I switched to rice and pea protein, and my focus noticeably improved, but also intermittent anxiety and crying and suicidal ideation started. I swing between feeling okay vs. pretty rattled and thinking of suicide and "lump in the gut" feeling.
I've been speculating that the 100 ml/day extra light olive oil I'm been adding is causing problems, but removing it drastically cuts down my calories, yikes. I've eaten huge amounts of olive oil for weeks before, so it seems unlikely that it's too big of a culprit.
Is there a carb source that's safer than plain cooked medium-grain rice?
Is there a fat source that's safer than extra light olive oil?
I am taking a multi-mineral and B-50 -- anything else I need for a minimal diet?
It does seem like my worst times correlate with cold/windy weather; even though I mostly stay inside and don't expose skin to sunlight... maybe cold air affects my lungs?
White bread (no durum wheat, no rye, no oils) if you tolerate gluten well. Potatoes if you tolerate solanine well. Short grain rice should be the best rice.
I've been using MCT oil lately, it's from coconut but all the stearic acid and palmitic acid has been removed so it shouldn't cause any problems. It's the best fat for me.
Quote from dan on February 24, 2019, 3:32 amWow I'm having a fairly difficult time with mental health; symptoms are coming and going without me knowing why. That's not too abnormal for me, but it's stronger than usual, and long-term I do seem to be spiraling downward.
I was on rice and black beans for about a week and mental health seemed okay, but I couldn't seem to focus for work. Then I switched to rice and pea protein, and my focus noticeably improved, but also intermittent anxiety and crying and suicidal ideation started. I swing between feeling okay vs. pretty rattled and thinking of suicide and "lump in the gut" feeling.
I've been speculating that the 100 ml/day extra light olive oil I'm been adding is causing problems, but removing it drastically cuts down my calories, yikes. I've eaten huge amounts of olive oil for weeks before, so it seems unlikely that it's too big of a culprit.
Is there a carb source that's safer than plain cooked medium-grain rice?
Is there a fat source that's safer than extra light olive oil?
I am taking a multi-mineral and B-50 -- anything else I need for a minimal diet?
It does seem like my worst times correlate with cold/windy weather; even though I mostly stay inside and don't expose skin to sunlight... maybe cold air affects my lungs?
I think safflower oil is better than olive, its 0 VA and mostly mono-unsaturated, low PUFA.
What about oats, potatoes, and bakery breads with no added oils?
I couldn't get a clear picture of what your diet is like, do you eat animal proteins? Beef seems to be the most grounding for people.
To me your symptoms sound like your gut is not happy. Bad bacteria overgrowth of some kind, or excess serotonin.
Or not enough balanced meals.
Or those supplements are not doing any good. Always rule out supplements. I hate multi's because you don't know if you could be reacting to one of them.
I am taking a multi-mineral and B-50 -- anything else I need for a minimal diet?
Some of the b vitamins are very energizing. It may provide a benefit for you if taken between 12p-3p.
If possible, I would try to take a smaller dose.
Although I'm continuing to eat cooked rice for lower resistant starch, I've determined through experiments that exposure to sunlight and hand soap were likely the biggest problems for me, see https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/sun-exposure-hand-soap/
Update: My mental health has been generally good. I am eating only cooked white rice, rice protein powder, light olive oil, a multi-mineral, vitamin C, tryptophan supplement, and salt. Sunlight might trigger a nap attack but the effect doesn't long; and avoiding sunlight hasn't helped much. I continue to avoid hand soap.
It seems my gut is particularly sensitive to foods that aren't soft. Even though cooked rice is fine and I kept it warm for hours, when I ate hardened or slightly burnt rice, I got hours of painful problems, and I think further eating with this condition caused the mental health swings. I want to warn people with sensitive guts who eat rice that resistant starch might a problem, even if you keep it warm in the rice cooker.
Dan, do you have amalgam fillings? If you do you may be thiol sensitive due to mercury toxicity. Pea protein I’ve read is high in thiol. I reacted mentally a couple hours from eating cauliflower. It takes days to come down if you avoid high thiol foods. Best way is to try avoiding high thiol foods for a week and you should start to feel better , then introduce high thiol foods one at s time, if you feel worse then you’re sensitive to it and stop right away.
Update: my mental health has been rather good despite continued brain fog and social isolation. My diet is now cooked rice, rice protein powder, light olive oil, black beans, sunflower lethicin, and various supplements. In retrospect, I don't think sunlight or hand soap was related to mental health problems.
So I'm guessing it was precooked & soaked or cooked & hardened rice that irritated my gut. Eating too many black beans (maybe 200-300g/day) did cause gut discomfort for a couple days, so it seems likely related to resistant starch or fiber. Super-hard (unchewable) collagen-like meat fiber and burnt/undercooked/hardened vegetables were very likely a problem for me in the past.
No amalgam fillings and I haven't had pea protein for months now.
I just tried the soaked minute rice again. After several minutes, I felt new gut discomfort and depression and headache. So I am fairly certain that it was resistant starch that caused the depression I mentioned at the beginning of this thread.
Eating too many canned beans (around 200-400 grams/day) has also negatively affected my mental health for about a day after stopping, perhaps also from resistant starch. However, I seem to actually benefit from a small amount (100 grams/day) of canned beans; I suspect the fiber helps me to bind and eliminate something in my bile.