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My 11 years pro(re)gress story... [chart]
It is interesting to note that I, and I think other people on this diet too, become even more intolerant to vitamin A over time. I believe that the buffering mechanisms become under-regulated, so a rapid overload occurs if you return to a “normal” diet. Unfortunately, this is a negative thing and forces you to remain virtually on this diet.
I am very familiar with the symptoms of vitamin A overload because I started to feel very ill when I took retinyl acetate to contrast mild acne on Ray Peat diet. After two years of deviating from a severe vitamin A restriction, including, as I explained earlier, eggs, red-orange fruits, tomatoes, other vegetables, cheese... I started to experience the same negative effects as when I was taking retinyl acetate, but to a lesser degree.
But there is a positive aspect, at least for me: by supplementing with calcium, I quickly returned to health on a low-vitamin A diet, without to wait months or years. I truly believe that calcium, probably together with magnesium, helps to buffer circulating levels of retinoic acid, as sodium bicarbonate may also do.
Another positive aspect is that my calcium requirement has decreased over time, so I believe that when there is little retinol or other acids to buffer, little calcium is needed, perhaps just that found in lime water. The guidelines (RDA) are based on thousands of people who eat poorly. Remember, if possible, do not use supplements. Even calcium can cause issue if taken in excess. Used as a treatment during a vitamin A elimination diet, it makes sense, but in the long term (years), it needs to be evaluated.
Who knows, perhaps this is one of the reasons why Peter Jentschura's theory on acid-base balance works in some cases.
Quote from Joseph on September 26, 2025, 5:58 pmQuote from Hermes on September 26, 2025, 11:23 amA.Ha, we were never meant to live in such a toxic environment: microplastics, EMF, food fortified with unnecessary vitamins, glyphosate, vaccines (any, I mean any), wrong housing which doesn't let charge go through, loss of community, loneliness, meaningless jobs. We're being systemically poisoned. We were meant to live in Paradise. But that's long gone, and down the path of wretchedness, everything just has become worse, and it continues so.
The only hope we have, who suffer poor health, is adapt and make everything possible that we can still function in this broken world. And it takes so much effort. I hope one day, it will pay off for me.
Did we read the same article?
"[...] It turns out the Earth—like all other celestial bodies—is acting as a sort of charge engine, recycling charge that
it gets from the Sun and the Galactic Core. Charge is just a heavy stream of real photons, so it is not
anything esoteric or difficult to visualize. Photons are little particles of light, and only a sliver of them
are visible to us. Heat is also photons, as are radio waves, so most of the spectrum is invisible. We can
hear part of it, but the largest part we neither hear nor see.
The spin of the Earth on its axis creates huge vortices at both poles that reach far out into space,
capturing the charge wind coming from the Sun. It pulls these photon streams in and channels them
down to the core, where they then turn and move back out. They channel out most heavily at the
equator, due to more angular momentum (centrifugal force) there, but they are released everywhere.
So no matter where you are standing on the Earth, these photons will be rising up from underneath you,
passing through you, and moving on up into the sky.
Tesla was one of the first to realize how this worked, and so he used it to create his machines and toys.
He was tapping the charge field of the Earth. Wifi rides on the ambient charge field in the lower
atmosphere, as just one example. This rising charge also explains how planes fly, the buoyancy of
water, floating clouds, rising heat, and many other things the mainstream knew only darkly. But even
Tesla didn't really know much about charge. As an engineer, he knew how to harness it, and as a
genius, he intuited its main properties, but he was never that interested in theory. I was the first to
show how charge fits into the unified field equations.
But what I have discovered more recently is how this impacts human life and health. You can see that
the Earth is a sort of charge engine, recycling charge right through its body and “feeding” on it. As it
turns out, atoms are also charge engines of that sort, as is the Sun. Charge photons recycle right
through the atomic nucleus, and I was the first to diagram the charge streams of the various elements.
All bodies of all sizes are charge engines, feeding off the ambient field. Everything from the electron
to the galaxy is recycling photons and feeding off of them. So are you. You don't live just by burning
food. You also live by recycling photons, sort of like a plant does but without the chlorophyll. The
mainstream is also aware of that, see biophotons and things like that. But they aren't as aware of it as
they should be, as you are about to discover.
If mainstream science understood how charge moves and is recycled, our buildings wouldn't be made
like they are. Due to poor choice of materials, almost all houses and office buildings are slow-motion
death traps. They insulate or block most charge, which starves the body of its main source of energy.
Even our shoes are all wrong—but we will get to that too.[...]"
It's funny I realized I was reading Miles Mathis withough even following the link. Love that guy hahaha
Quote from Tropico on September 27, 2025, 2:16 amIt is interesting to note that I, and I think other people on this diet too, become even more intolerant to vitamin A over time. I believe that the buffering mechanisms become under-regulated, so a rapid overload occurs if you return to a “normal” diet. Unfortunately, this is a negative thing and forces you to remain virtually on this diet.
I am very familiar with the symptoms of vitamin A overload because I started to feel very ill when I took retinyl acetate to contrast mild acne on Ray Peat diet. After two years of deviating from a severe vitamin A restriction, including, as I explained earlier, eggs, red-orange fruits, tomatoes, other vegetables, cheese... I started to experience the same negative effects as when I was taking retinyl acetate, but to a lesser degree.
But there is a positive aspect, at least for me: by supplementing with calcium, I quickly returned to health on a low-vitamin A diet, without to wait months or years. I truly believe that calcium, probably together with magnesium, helps to buffer circulating levels of retinoic acid, as sodium bicarbonate may also do.
Another positive aspect is that my calcium requirement has decreased over time, so I believe that when there is little retinol or other acids to buffer, little calcium is needed, perhaps just that found in lime water. The guidelines (RDA) are based on thousands of people who eat poorly. Remember, if possible, do not use supplements. Even calcium can cause issue if taken in excess. Used as a treatment during a vitamin A elimination diet, it makes sense, but in the long term (years), it needs to be evaluated.
Who knows, perhaps this is one of the reasons why Peter Jentschura's theory on acid-base balance works in some cases.
This is exactly the anecdotal evidence and analysis I was thinking of. Do you mind if I post this elsewhere on other blogs?
I think there are a number of paradigms this affirms.
The liver is either intoxing or detoxing. When we have stopped taking in vA the liver kicks detoxes what it can as it can. As we get clear of vA, we rebuild as we can and symptoms reside. Eat more and they are going to come back until the liver finishes mopping the toxins back up and then detoxing them out and the colon finishes excreting them.
Another one is poison on the way in poison on the way out. It hurts going in both directions.
The newer paradigm you are bringing out is how vA abuses our minerals specifically calcium. If we are taking in calcium sufficient to keep up with the demands vA places on us, it is probably less of a calcium deficit issue. If not, then vA is probably yanking calcium out of tissue. Probably out of bones and other calcium channel related cells. This makes for a bad day a lot of different ways. What we are grokking lately is how much of a deficit we get, the timing of the deficit and the repletion and how best to do it.
For now our main focus is how much and what form. A group of us are working that out now.
Are you coming around more to the idea that vA is not a nutrient? AKA are you missing it in your effort to avoid it?
Quote from lil chick on September 27, 2025, 8:11 amQuote from Joseph on September 26, 2025, 5:58 pmQuote from Hermes on September 26, 2025, 11:23 amA.Ha, we were never meant to live in such a toxic environment: microplastics, EMF, food fortified with unnecessary vitamins, glyphosate, vaccines (any, I mean any), wrong housing which doesn't let charge go through, loss of community, loneliness, meaningless jobs. We're being systemically poisoned. We were meant to live in Paradise. But that's long gone, and down the path of wretchedness, everything just has become worse, and it continues so.
The only hope we have, who suffer poor health, is adapt and make everything possible that we can still function in this broken world. And it takes so much effort. I hope one day, it will pay off for me.
Did we read the same article?
"[...] It turns out the Earth—like all other celestial bodies—is acting as a sort of charge engine, recycling charge that
it gets from the Sun and the Galactic Core. Charge is just a heavy stream of real photons, so it is not
anything esoteric or difficult to visualize. Photons are little particles of light, and only a sliver of them
are visible to us. Heat is also photons, as are radio waves, so most of the spectrum is invisible. We can
hear part of it, but the largest part we neither hear nor see.
The spin of the Earth on its axis creates huge vortices at both poles that reach far out into space,
capturing the charge wind coming from the Sun. It pulls these photon streams in and channels them
down to the core, where they then turn and move back out. They channel out most heavily at the
equator, due to more angular momentum (centrifugal force) there, but they are released everywhere.
So no matter where you are standing on the Earth, these photons will be rising up from underneath you,
passing through you, and moving on up into the sky.
Tesla was one of the first to realize how this worked, and so he used it to create his machines and toys.
He was tapping the charge field of the Earth. Wifi rides on the ambient charge field in the lower
atmosphere, as just one example. This rising charge also explains how planes fly, the buoyancy of
water, floating clouds, rising heat, and many other things the mainstream knew only darkly. But even
Tesla didn't really know much about charge. As an engineer, he knew how to harness it, and as a
genius, he intuited its main properties, but he was never that interested in theory. I was the first to
show how charge fits into the unified field equations.
But what I have discovered more recently is how this impacts human life and health. You can see that
the Earth is a sort of charge engine, recycling charge right through its body and “feeding” on it. As it
turns out, atoms are also charge engines of that sort, as is the Sun. Charge photons recycle right
through the atomic nucleus, and I was the first to diagram the charge streams of the various elements.
All bodies of all sizes are charge engines, feeding off the ambient field. Everything from the electron
to the galaxy is recycling photons and feeding off of them. So are you. You don't live just by burning
food. You also live by recycling photons, sort of like a plant does but without the chlorophyll. The
mainstream is also aware of that, see biophotons and things like that. But they aren't as aware of it as
they should be, as you are about to discover.
If mainstream science understood how charge moves and is recycled, our buildings wouldn't be made
like they are. Due to poor choice of materials, almost all houses and office buildings are slow-motion
death traps. They insulate or block most charge, which starves the body of its main source of energy.
Even our shoes are all wrong—but we will get to that too.[...]"It's funny I realized I was reading Miles Mathis withough even following the link. Love that guy hahaha
I'm going to grab this post and bring it to the thread about earthing to reply about it.
There are so many studies relating retinol and osteoporosis or increased fracture risk, that it was foolish not to think of it sooner. Vitamin A has a significant impact on bone density; science believes it has a regulatory role, but calcium is actually perhaps one of the main mechanisms for buffering retinoic acid. This is my experience, which Grant also seems to believe.
I meant to mention this in my log, but I will add it here because it seems relevant.
I took a wicked fall this week. I got the cord from my computer wrapped around my boot and didn't know it. I had a full head of steam on and then my leg got left behind. I twisted a bit to avoid landing face first and instead landed hard on ceramic tile at side of knee and shoulder (and it was my "bad" shoulder that has less motion). I laid there for a few minutes, wondering if I was going to be getting back up again. Petite 62 year old's sometimes already have osteoporosis.
I was shooken up by it, in fact I even had a hard time getting to sleep that night. But literally: not even a bruise.
Unlike many here, I do drink do some dairy and don't feel calcium deficient.
Around the time, just before finding Grant about 6 years ago) husband had a kidney stone and I was rushing around to help him and fell in a similar manner. I was all bruised up and sore then.
Quote from Joe2 on September 27, 2025, 9:34 amI think there are a number of paradigms this affirms.
The liver is either intoxing or detoxing. When we have stopped taking in vA the liver kicks detoxes what it can as it can. As we get clear of vA, we rebuild as we can and symptoms reside. Eat more and they are going to come back until the liver finishes mopping the toxins back up and then detoxing them out and the colon finishes excreting them.
Another one is poison on the way in poison on the way out. It hurts going in both directions.
The newer paradigm you are bringing out is how vA abuses our minerals specifically calcium. If we are taking in calcium sufficient to keep up with the demands vA places on us, it is probably less of a calcium deficit issue. If not, then vA is probably yanking calcium out of tissue. Probably out of bones and other calcium channel related cells. This makes for a bad day a lot of different ways. What we are grokking lately is how much of a deficit we get, the timing of the deficit and the repletion and how best to do it.
For now our main focus is how much and what form. A group of us are working that out now.
I think this is the crux of the matter.
We have been on the very low vA depletion diet for nearly 5 tears. Lots of fantastic outcomes and all is well. The "detox" episodes we calmed with a glass or two of vodka. They came less and less frequently but nevertheless were quite painful and we supposed there was something else involved.
We recently started to take calcium-glucarate, about 1000 to 1500 mg per day. The effect was very nice. I thought it was the glucarate part, since the calcium involved was very little. But we tried adding calcium seriously, about 400 mg of calcium carbonate, adding as well a large handful of fried tiny small fish every two or three days.
Big energy! We crack jokes all the time, our neighbours think we are possessed! Hair growing like crazy. Problems disappearing around us.
Thank you.
Quote from Joseph on September 26, 2025, 5:58 pm"[...] It turns out the Earth—like all other celestial bodies—is acting as a sort of charge engine, recycling charge that
it gets from the Sun and the Galactic Core. Charge is just a heavy stream of real photons, so it is not
anything esoteric or difficult to visualize. Photons are little particles of light, and only a sliver of them
are visible to us. Heat is also photons, as are radio waves, so most of the spectrum is invisible. We can
hear part of it, but the largest part we neither hear nor see.
The spin of the Earth on its axis creates huge vortices at both poles that reach far out into space,
capturing the charge wind coming from the Sun. It pulls these photon streams in and channels them
down to the core, where they then turn and move back out. They channel out most heavily at the
equator, due to more angular momentum (centrifugal force) there, but they are released everywhere.
So no matter where you are standing on the Earth, these photons will be rising up from underneath you,
passing through you, and moving on up into the sky.
Tesla was one of the first to realize how this worked, and so he used it to create his machines and toys.
He was tapping the charge field of the Earth. Wifi rides on the ambient charge field in the lower
atmosphere, as just one example. This rising charge also explains how planes fly, the buoyancy of
water, floating clouds, rising heat, and many other things the mainstream knew only darkly. But even
Tesla didn't really know much about charge. As an engineer, he knew how to harness it, and as a
genius, he intuited its main properties, but he was never that interested in theory. I was the first to
show how charge fits into the unified field equations.
But what I have discovered more recently is how this impacts human life and health. You can see that
the Earth is a sort of charge engine, recycling charge right through its body and “feeding” on it. As it
turns out, atoms are also charge engines of that sort, as is the Sun. Charge photons recycle right
through the atomic nucleus, and I was the first to diagram the charge streams of the various elements.
All bodies of all sizes are charge engines, feeding off the ambient field. Everything from the electron
to the galaxy is recycling photons and feeding off of them. So are you. You don't live just by burning
food. You also live by recycling photons, sort of like a plant does but without the chlorophyll. The
mainstream is also aware of that, see biophotons and things like that. But they aren't as aware of it as
they should be, as you are about to discover.
If mainstream science understood how charge moves and is recycled, our buildings wouldn't be made
like they are. Due to poor choice of materials, almost all houses and office buildings are slow-motion
death traps. They insulate or block most charge, which starves the body of its main source of energy.
Even our shoes are all wrong—but we will get to that too.[...]"
We did indeed. This article got me started on how to get charge at night. Currently, I'm sleeping in a barn where I have a bed set up. Not sure if I get the benefits I'm looking for, but at least one intervention more I can incorporate at night.
And, yeah, my thinking is heavily influenced by Mathis. He's such a unique voice out there. Very reassuring (and disturbing, in the beginning) to read him.
What I take away from him: We're living in a fake world. Everything you know about history, about current events, hardly anything, that is not fake. And he's so convincing, it's hard for me not to believe him. He presents very compelling evidence.
Great to see that Mathis is well known around here.
Has anyone been able to make heads or tales about his science books?
Miles Mathis that is.
To be fair and conclude the matter, I supplemented with eggshell calcium for 10 days, then stopped. This time, I won't make the same mistake. When I feel the need (which I don't think I will, since I drink skim milk), I will never take bicarbonate again, not even citrate, lactate or acetate, because all three lead to metabolic alkalosis, whether it be potassium, magnesium, or calcium. Only chloride or amino acid chelated minerals, which are safer even in the long term. But now, again, no supplements because I'm fine with just a low-retinol diet and I'm happy again.
Many years of almost zero vitamin A, so I don't think I need to start over, and I don't think I'll have any new setbacks since my liver shouldn't be so saturated.
If that happens, I'll keep you updated...