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I ate white rice only (with more than 200g of meat and some more low vitA veges per day) at the very beginning of low vitA, moved to millet and buckwheat. And I was cold years before going low vitA when I barely eat any rice, sweets or drinking alcohol. My refined carbs was basically only bread (brown and white) and some pasta (I ate more potatoes). So I would say it could vary a lot between different people.
@matrixik comparing white rice to millet and buckwheat is nonsense. Buckwheat is full of other minerals not just B1. It could be easily low copper or whatever.. But I still don't understand what your case has to do with my post about a lot of people eating a lot of white rice and they don't have beri beri.. Smith is simply wrong lol..
@matrixik I have had a similar experience to you. I don't eat white rice and haven't for 10+ years because I don't tolerate rice in any form. The only grain I am able to eat is oats and I have only eaten oats for short periods of time because they seem to cause me other issues. My diet has ample thiamine in it and yet I still become thiamine deficient very quickly if I don't take additional thiamine.
@matrixik allithiamine is doing me some good as well, taken me months of low dosing it, to get up to 50mg every other day, plan is to eventually use 50mg each day. It does improve energy levels and body temps and seems to be the one thing that has helped my sleep the most.
There were some studies that showed accutane severely depletes thiamine activity.
I learned from the vet and pet owner sites that cats with kidney disease (K/D) deplete their b-vities through increased urination.
My K/D cat is doing good, seems to be "in remission"... .one of the things the vet did was give 2 shots: B spectrum, and B12.
My cat was on a carnivore diet, so you wouldn't THINK his b-vities would be low...(there was no rice (white or otherwise) for this dude, LOL)
(sometimes I find it is easier to learn things about health from what's going on in animal care)
Sometimes, I think we focus on the wrong organ here. Many think liver, liver. But are we really a bunch of people whose kidneys are silently suffering?
I think I have many signs of low b-vities. One of my kidneys hydrated for no apparent reason during one of my pregnancies. One of my parents is in stage 4 kidney failure.
I've said in my log that the ephemeral and ancient diagnosis of Lupus could probably be translated to "VA toxicity" in every textbook.
(Dr House: "It's never lupus")
"Inflammation of the nephrons, the structures within the kidneys that filter the blood, is called glomerulonephritis, or nephritis. Lupus nephritis is the term used when lupus causes inflammation in your kidneys, making them unable to properly remove waste from your blood or control the amount of fluids in your body."
My parent tells me that taking B-vities give a "bonkers" feeling. I know that feeling! I remember getting that feeling from b-vities before. I suppose the answer is ramping up very slowly.
It's funny how this process is forcing us to do all the things we think we can't do. We think we can't live without butter, eat fiber or take supps... we think we are sick of being orthorexic or that we have had enough of out-side-the-box ideas!