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Quote from David on April 14, 2023, 10:23 amThe problem is that I never have a stomach ache after eating, no matter what I eat. My stomach never communicates so clearly with me. On the one hand, that's good, on the other hand, it's difficult to find out what's good for me and what's not.
The problem is that I never have a stomach ache after eating, no matter what I eat. My stomach never communicates so clearly with me. On the one hand, that's good, on the other hand, it's difficult to find out what's good for me and what's not.
Quote from puddleduck on April 14, 2023, 10:26 amUgg, I'm sorry you have to get a colonoscopy. Hopefully this disappointing information does help you figure out what direction to take with your diet, though.
I've been listening to a lot of Unique Hammond's podcasts lately (it's a good podcast, I recommend it), and you might find her story encouraging:
https://www.youregreat.com/blog/my-disease-story
Basically, she recovered from Crohn's Disease using "the white diet" to repair her gut lining, and then by slowly expanding her food options to follow what she calls the "bean protocol," developed by nutritionist Karen Hurd, whom Unique credits with saving her life.
I don't remember if anyone here has done "the white diet," but it is a low-vitamin A diet. Might be worth looking into. Some on the forums do utilize the "bean protocol" (Liz recently purchased one of Karen Hurd's courses, which she has written about in her log).
Your instinct to eat a more plain diet to give your digestive system a rest makes total sense.
All the best in figuring out what next steps to take, @david-2! I know it can be overwhelming, at times.
Ugg, I'm sorry you have to get a colonoscopy. Hopefully this disappointing information does help you figure out what direction to take with your diet, though.
I've been listening to a lot of Unique Hammond's podcasts lately (it's a good podcast, I recommend it), and you might find her story encouraging:
https://www.youregreat.com/blog/my-disease-story
Basically, she recovered from Crohn's Disease using "the white diet" to repair her gut lining, and then by slowly expanding her food options to follow what she calls the "bean protocol," developed by nutritionist Karen Hurd, whom Unique credits with saving her life.
I don't remember if anyone here has done "the white diet," but it is a low-vitamin A diet. Might be worth looking into. Some on the forums do utilize the "bean protocol" (Liz recently purchased one of Karen Hurd's courses, which she has written about in her log).
Your instinct to eat a more plain diet to give your digestive system a rest makes total sense.
All the best in figuring out what next steps to take, @david-2! I know it can be overwhelming, at times.
Quote from puddleduck on April 14, 2023, 10:31 amQuote from David on April 14, 2023, 10:23 amThe problem is that I never have a stomach ache after eating, no matter what I eat. My stomach never communicates so clearly with me. On the one hand, that's good, on the other hand, it's difficult to find out what's good for me and what's not.
I was pretty much the same that way, at first. It was like my gut was "numb" or something. This can change, though. After I went a couple of months without high vitamin A foods in my diet, I was able to notice reactions when I reintroduced them.
Quote from David on April 14, 2023, 10:23 amThe problem is that I never have a stomach ache after eating, no matter what I eat. My stomach never communicates so clearly with me. On the one hand, that's good, on the other hand, it's difficult to find out what's good for me and what's not.
I was pretty much the same that way, at first. It was like my gut was "numb" or something. This can change, though. After I went a couple of months without high vitamin A foods in my diet, I was able to notice reactions when I reintroduced them.
Quote from Jiří on April 14, 2023, 11:18 amQuote from David on April 14, 2023, 10:23 amThe problem is that I never have a stomach ache after eating, no matter what I eat. My stomach never communicates so clearly with me. On the one hand, that's good, on the other hand, it's difficult to find out what's good for me and what's not.
I can't find what was the reason for colonoscopy or why you think that you have something with the intestines if you don't have any symptoms like you said? No gut pain, gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation etc.? I think it will get much worse overtime if you keep eating just meat and white rice.. You clearly see from the blood work that it doesn't work for balancing your body..
Quote from David on April 14, 2023, 10:23 amThe problem is that I never have a stomach ache after eating, no matter what I eat. My stomach never communicates so clearly with me. On the one hand, that's good, on the other hand, it's difficult to find out what's good for me and what's not.
I can't find what was the reason for colonoscopy or why you think that you have something with the intestines if you don't have any symptoms like you said? No gut pain, gas, bloating, diarrhea, constipation etc.? I think it will get much worse overtime if you keep eating just meat and white rice.. You clearly see from the blood work that it doesn't work for balancing your body..
Quote from David on April 14, 2023, 11:23 amHello dear @puddleduck
thank you that gives me hope. I also hope that my intestines will recover and that I won't have a chronic intestinal inflammation on top of that. A leaky gut is actually enough ...
Let's see. Your tips sound very good! I will definitely listen to the podcast. I was thinking about integrating fibre, which is very well tolerated and without many anti-nutrients, as I find rice more of a filler. Which fruits are best for this, i.e. which fruits have the least vitamin A/oxalates? I thought lychee might be good?
Alternatively, I could also take some psyllium husk at the beginning and eat mainly meat at first, if that can give my intestines the necessary rest to recover....
What do you think of honey? Is honey a good thing? A tablespoon a day for example or not? Because of the idea of eating more fibre, I thought of that...
Hello dear @puddleduck
thank you that gives me hope. I also hope that my intestines will recover and that I won't have a chronic intestinal inflammation on top of that. A leaky gut is actually enough ...
Let's see. Your tips sound very good! I will definitely listen to the podcast. I was thinking about integrating fibre, which is very well tolerated and without many anti-nutrients, as I find rice more of a filler. Which fruits are best for this, i.e. which fruits have the least vitamin A/oxalates? I thought lychee might be good?
Alternatively, I could also take some psyllium husk at the beginning and eat mainly meat at first, if that can give my intestines the necessary rest to recover....
What do you think of honey? Is honey a good thing? A tablespoon a day for example or not? Because of the idea of eating more fibre, I thought of that...
Quote from David on April 14, 2023, 11:28 amDear @jiri
The doctor said that the levels of zonulin, alpha 1 antitrypsin and calprotectin are extremely elevated. This is often the case in people with Chron's disease or ulcerative colitis. Zonulin was already extremely elevated in me last year and now both of them are.
Maybe it is just the beginning of this disease. I hope / pray of course that it is not so...
I have only been on the meat / rice diet for 6 weeks. Before that, I lived a quasi-vegetarian life for 12 years.
Dear @jiri
The doctor said that the levels of zonulin, alpha 1 antitrypsin and calprotectin are extremely elevated. This is often the case in people with Chron's disease or ulcerative colitis. Zonulin was already extremely elevated in me last year and now both of them are.
Maybe it is just the beginning of this disease. I hope / pray of course that it is not so...
I have only been on the meat / rice diet for 6 weeks. Before that, I lived a quasi-vegetarian life for 12 years.
Quote from Jiří on April 14, 2023, 12:31 pm@david-2 I wouldn't worry about that. You simply need fiber and better micronutrient profile in your diet. So your body can do it's job to regenerate..
@david-2 I wouldn't worry about that. You simply need fiber and better micronutrient profile in your diet. So your body can do it's job to regenerate..
Quote from David on April 14, 2023, 12:52 pm@jiri
Can you recommend me good sources for fibre which are VA/ Oxolate Low and possibly also fruits?
What is your opinion on honey?
Can you recommend me good sources for fibre which are VA/ Oxolate Low and possibly also fruits?
What is your opinion on honey?
Quote from puddleduck on April 14, 2023, 3:11 pm@david-2
Doing the "bean protocol" myself right now, I stick with these main soluble fiber sources:
-psyllium
-lima beans
-chickpeas
-lentils
-black-eyed-peas (this is the lowest in oxalate of the bunch)Most other beans are way higher in oxalate, unfortunately.
I also consume green cabbage (not savoy), apples, sundried raisins, and dried cranberries, all of which are low in both vitamin A and in oxalate. Occasionally, I will also eat bananas, fresh seedless grapes, and cherries, which are low in oxalate, and have less carotenes than most fruits. Barley is quite low in oxalate.
I eat roughly a tablespoon or two of sugar or honey per day, and have done so since starting the low-vitamin A diet. But keep in mind that if you find out you don't do well on it yet, as you heal and increase resiliency you will be able to tolerate more foods.
Soluble fiber really can and does work wonders (here's why - keep in mind "fat soluble waste" includes excess fat soluble vitamins, like vitamin A), but some people have to introduce it quite slowly as it can cause an increase of symptoms at first. So don't get discouraged if that happens! Unique Hammond and Karen Hurd are good resources for navigating the therapeutic use of soluble fiber, supposing it ends up being a difficult adjustment for you.
There are people for whom it's easier, and the fiber makes a positive difference right away. Others need to back off and rest the gut to let it heal a bit first. It all depends what your body needs at this point in time.
Doing the "bean protocol" myself right now, I stick with these main soluble fiber sources:
-psyllium
-lima beans
-chickpeas
-lentils
-black-eyed-peas (this is the lowest in oxalate of the bunch)
Most other beans are way higher in oxalate, unfortunately.
I also consume green cabbage (not savoy), apples, sundried raisins, and dried cranberries, all of which are low in both vitamin A and in oxalate. Occasionally, I will also eat bananas, fresh seedless grapes, and cherries, which are low in oxalate, and have less carotenes than most fruits. Barley is quite low in oxalate.
I eat roughly a tablespoon or two of sugar or honey per day, and have done so since starting the low-vitamin A diet. But keep in mind that if you find out you don't do well on it yet, as you heal and increase resiliency you will be able to tolerate more foods.
Soluble fiber really can and does work wonders (here's why - keep in mind "fat soluble waste" includes excess fat soluble vitamins, like vitamin A), but some people have to introduce it quite slowly as it can cause an increase of symptoms at first. So don't get discouraged if that happens! Unique Hammond and Karen Hurd are good resources for navigating the therapeutic use of soluble fiber, supposing it ends up being a difficult adjustment for you.
There are people for whom it's easier, and the fiber makes a positive difference right away. Others need to back off and rest the gut to let it heal a bit first. It all depends what your body needs at this point in time.
Quote from Jiří on April 14, 2023, 10:08 pm@david-2 apple, banana, onions, mushrooms, gluten free oats.. You don't have to eat no oxalates. That is not sustainable... Btw I don't know what is the deal with honey? It's just sugar with no fiber. So nothing ideal. Eat some fruit instead of honey.. Apples have pectin(soluble fiber for detox)
@david-2 apple, banana, onions, mushrooms, gluten free oats.. You don't have to eat no oxalates. That is not sustainable... Btw I don't know what is the deal with honey? It's just sugar with no fiber. So nothing ideal. Eat some fruit instead of honey.. Apples have pectin(soluble fiber for detox)