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Niacin flush from food
Quote from wavygravygadzooks on January 21, 2022, 12:36 pmI should add that this sensation only seems to happen early in the day with the first significant intake of potassium. I often take 350 mg of potassium chloride before breakfast, between breakfast and lunch, and then before bed, but I don't think I've ever gotten the sensation with the second or third round of potassium for the day. Similarly, I am most likely to get the sensation from food if it's the first thing I eat/drink in the day.
Any ideas?
What's your diet like? Do you salt your food? Why do you take potassium and does it help you with any symptoms?
Yes, I salt my food to taste with sea salt. I used to salt it really liberally, but lately not quite as much.
I'm still eating mostly meat and fat (beef, lamb, rabbit, salmon). Small amounts of berries. Occasionally, I try reintroducing more carbs like white rice and parsnips.
I've had chronic muscle twitching/cramping and muscle fatigue for years which seemed likely to be associated with electrolyte problems, so I've experimented with magnesium, potassium, and calcium for a while now.
@wavygravygadzooks The muscle twitching/cramping is most likely a VA detox symptom, not any electrolyte deficiency. Carnivores who eat organs often get this. Also, it disappears on its own even without supplementation.
If you're eating basically meat/fat anyway I would recommend to go all meat and fat with zero carbs and stop all supplements to allow the body to find its own balance. If there are no carbs to disrupt your protein and fat metabolism there should be zero deficiencies. Those only develop on a diet with carbs that do not contain the full plant (e.g. white rice as exclusive carb source). The toxin usually comes with the antidote, but as humans we are not adapted to eat plant foods so they are more toxic to us than healthy. We are simply missing most of the needed gut microbiota to detoxify all of the harmful plant substances.
This is what many people seem to be missing - the body actually does very little on its own in terms of detoxification of harmful substances. The majority is done by microbes, hence the need for more or less regular "infections" on an unhealthy diet.
I wonder if this could be an oxalate issue. I belong to a Facebook oxalate group, and one thing they say is that excess glycine gets converted to oxalic acid in the body which is why they don't recommend consuming a lot of bone broth or taking collagen supplements. Oxalate overload in the body apparently then contributes to histamine problems.
My understanding is that glycine gets converted to oxalates primarily when there is a B6 deficiency, which should be difficult to develop on a diet high in meat. But just in case that wasn't convincing enough, I tried supplementing with B6 and it didn't solve anything. Actually, it might have made things worse, as seems to have happened to me when supplementing other B vitamins.
Like @carnivore said, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with Vitamin A dumping, although I would like to know the mechanism. Is it somehow messing with electrolyte balance inside/outside of cells in a way that cannot be corrected by taking in more electrolytes? Or is it targeting some central processing in the nervous system that does not reflect electrolyte balance? I've had nervous system problems like vertigo/dizziness, nystagmus, and issues with sphincters in the alimentary tract, so it is quite likely that the body-wide muscle fasciculations are a consequence of the same problem in the CNS.
Quote from wavygravygadzooks on June 19, 2022, 11:05 amLike @carnivore said, I'm pretty sure it has something to do with Vitamin A dumping, although I would like to know the mechanism. Is it somehow messing with electrolyte balance inside/outside of cells in a way that cannot be corrected by taking in more electrolytes? Or is it targeting some central processing in the nervous system that does not reflect electrolyte balance? I've had nervous system problems like vertigo/dizziness, nystagmus, and issues with sphincters in the alimentary tract, so it is quite likely that the body-wide muscle fasciculations are a consequence of the same problem in the CNS.
The simple answer is that plant foods (/toxins) lead to contractions in the human body so they hamper energy flow. If those stored toxins get released it will cause these problems, like little short circuits in the tissue. Have you ever wondered why people get more and more stiff as they age? It's because of the toxic plant food they eat. You are what you eat. If you eat plants, you become more and more plant-like - stationary that is.
Quote from Carnivore on June 20, 2022, 1:36 amYou are what you eat. If you eat plants, you become more and more plant-like - stationary that is.
Haha, hadn't heard that one yet!
Ever since I became aware of the problems with plants, I have certainly noticed that many of the plant lovers around me complain of stiff joint and muscle problems, especially the older ones. And of course they all repeat the same thing..."guess I'm just getting older". There's no doubt that aging leads to wear and tear on the body and slowed repairing, but if you go through life expecting to just get worse, then you're enabling your own decline.
Quote from wavygravygadzooks on June 20, 2022, 11:21 amEver since I became aware of the problems with plants, I have certainly noticed that many of the plant lovers around me complain of stiff joint and muscle problems, especially the older ones. And of course they all repeat the same thing..."guess I'm just getting older". There's no doubt that aging leads to wear and tear on the body and slowed repairing, but if you go through life expecting to just get worse, then you're enabling your own decline.
I'm convinced that what we call aging is actually prolonged poisoning by eating plants and their toxic metabolites from animal foods (organs, that is) at a rate that is higher than what can be detoxified. That's why people grow younger esp. on a muscle meat only carnivore diet.
I'm also very interested in the energetic/vibrational side of things and how it influences us in terms of contraction and expansion. I've been wanting to write a book about health and nutrition with information and dot-connecting that's not available anywhere else but until I came across Grant's books about VA toxicity something always seemed to be missing. Now all the bulbs are lighting up and I don't even have to think very hard anymore to resolve the issues that still confounded me previously. The VA elimination diet helps with that, too. It's like Dr. Anthony Chaffee says - the final 5% to a 100% meat only diet make 95% of the difference. We have the ability to become more than what we currently think of as human beings but as long as there are any plants left in the diet we will always function like we still have the brakes on.