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Omega 3 supplementation: to be avoided at all cost
Quote from Guest on January 21, 2019, 5:46 pmI thought you guys might be intersted in this presentation :
Some points discussed
- DHA and fish oils do more harm than good
- Ratio of omega 3 to 6
- 3x increase in melanoma in cod liver oil users
I thought you guys might be intersted in this presentation :
Some points discussed
- DHA and fish oils do more harm than good
- Ratio of omega 3 to 6
- 3x increase in melanoma in cod liver oil users
Quote from Guest on January 22, 2019, 11:16 amI have a personal experience that I attribute to consuming too much plant-based omega 3s. During one week, walnuts were a staple with my breakfast and I also ate hummus (made with high omega 3 canola oil) a few times for lunch. By Friday, I was literally useless at work in front of a computer and asked to leave early since I couldn't get anything done.
I am now eating sunflower oil-based hazelnut spread for breakfast (not too sure of the quality of the oil) and use sunflower seeds as a snack. I have ran out of seeds since last week and I can't seem to get back into the same groove. I will report back results when I start eating them again. I thought lecithin was the ingredient that was helping me most in sunflower products, but it might also be the high LA content.
The book on a lutein-free diet that can cure autism also mentioned the importance of plant-based oils by encouraging supplementation of 1 tbsp of primrose oil or safflower oil per day.
I will look into him more, it definitely piqued my curiosity.
I have a personal experience that I attribute to consuming too much plant-based omega 3s. During one week, walnuts were a staple with my breakfast and I also ate hummus (made with high omega 3 canola oil) a few times for lunch. By Friday, I was literally useless at work in front of a computer and asked to leave early since I couldn't get anything done.
I am now eating sunflower oil-based hazelnut spread for breakfast (not too sure of the quality of the oil) and use sunflower seeds as a snack. I have ran out of seeds since last week and I can't seem to get back into the same groove. I will report back results when I start eating them again. I thought lecithin was the ingredient that was helping me most in sunflower products, but it might also be the high LA content.
The book on a lutein-free diet that can cure autism also mentioned the importance of plant-based oils by encouraging supplementation of 1 tbsp of primrose oil or safflower oil per day.
I will look into him more, it definitely piqued my curiosity.
Quote from hillcountry on January 22, 2019, 11:24 amThanks, that was entertaining to hear and see Brian at his "most ripped". I'm going to screen capture his slides and audio tape his presentation for the archives. It's hard to send his lectures to friends. Most people can't seem to get past his personality.
I have his PEO Solution book which is a really good read. Quite a few "eye-openers". The product based on his recommendations, YES PEO, is well-liked at Amazon's comment section. He's been "chased" a bit by the authorities, but that just seems to make him more adamant. He does go back at least ten years (his YouTube channel) and he was warning about the dangers of fish oil back then and probably earlier. I did a deep-dive on him and the subject he presents, just prior to discovering Grant's work. We were taking some YES PEO capsules, but not consistently or at therapeutic levels.
It is interesting how this overlaps the dangers of the Retinoids, and no doubt the other side of the damaged-tissue coin, which is having sufficient and proper building-blocks to make new cell membranes for the cells that are themselves making/repairing the membranes of higher-order structures in the body. It's kind of fractal.
Some of the content of the video of Dr. Matheson's clinical experience with the oils, which is like Part 2 of this one, (same conference) is almost unbelievable, but plausible. It's worth a two-month experiment with the oils at higher intake levels.
Since his product is somewhat expensive, I replicated it last year, pretty closely anyway, through buying the refrigerated nutritional oils separately; the ones made by Flora in Canada and then tried approximating Brian's ratios.
Buying UDO's 3-6-9 from Flora is also pretty close I think to what Brian has developed. Udo Erasmus wrote Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill a long time ago and he covered some of this material. I'm tempted to read that again and compare to knowledge gained since he wrote it. There is some debate, that is there would be if you could get the folks on the same platform, about the appropriate LA-to-ALA ratio (Omega 6-to-Omega 3).
(did an edit above - reversed the LA-to-ALA terminology in the first draft)
Patricia and Ed Kane have written an excellent history, with the conclusion that LA-to-ALA should be 4-to-1 based on a study in Israel from the early 90's. They give credit to the Flax/Cottage Cheese promoter from Germany, Johanna Budwig, a famous biochemist, but also show how she got it wrong. Wikipedia dismisses Budwig for her anti-cancer claims and only alludes to the importance of her fight against the hydrogenation industry and their adulteration of oils (1950's timeframe), which at the time was literally heroic as I understand it. Here's a snip from Wiki. Note her focus on a "low oxygen environment", just as Brian Peskin is pointing at in the video. I like how Brian talked about "cellular respiration" being like a mitochondrial blast-furnace. That particular membrane might be the most important one in existence.
While working as a researcher at the German Federal Health Office she noted many cancer drugs being evaluated in the 1950s contained sulphydryl groups. Budwig believed sulphydryl compounds were important to cellular metabolism and cellular respiration.[1] Budwig researched the theory that a low oxygen environment would develop in the absence of sulphydryl groups and/or fatty acid partners that would encourage the proliferation of cancerous cells.[1] With H.P. Kaufmann she developed paper chromatography techniques to identify and quantify fatty acids.[1] Budwig used these techniques to compare the fatty acid profiles of sick and healthy individuals. This made her one of the first scientists to consider the health implications of fat consumption, according to Mannion et al. in a 2010 paper in the journal Nutrients.[1]
Brian does reference Patricia Kane (I think it was once in his book), but doesn't give much credit as I recall. Anyway, here's the pdf from the BodyBio Bulletin. http://becknatmed.com/doc/BodyBioBulletin-4to1Oil.pdf
Ed and Patricia Kane's product BodyBio Balance Oil is found at Amazon. It only has Sunflower and Flax oils, whereas Brian's includes Pumpkin seed and Evening Primrose in addition to those two (maybe one other as well).
UDO's 3-6-9 has the following ingredients (don't know the ratios) - Omega-3 ALA (alpha-linolenic acid), Omega-6 LA (linoleic acid), GLA (gamma-linolenic acid), Omega-9 OA (oleic acid). Organic flax seed oil, organic sunflower seed oil, organic sesame seed oil, organic coconut oil, organic evening primrose seed oil, organic rice bran oil, organic soy lecithin, organic oat bran oil, mixed tocopherols (non-GMO).
Thanks again for linking the video. I think it's really important stuff.
Thanks, that was entertaining to hear and see Brian at his "most ripped". I'm going to screen capture his slides and audio tape his presentation for the archives. It's hard to send his lectures to friends. Most people can't seem to get past his personality.
I have his PEO Solution book which is a really good read. Quite a few "eye-openers". The product based on his recommendations, YES PEO, is well-liked at Amazon's comment section. He's been "chased" a bit by the authorities, but that just seems to make him more adamant. He does go back at least ten years (his YouTube channel) and he was warning about the dangers of fish oil back then and probably earlier. I did a deep-dive on him and the subject he presents, just prior to discovering Grant's work. We were taking some YES PEO capsules, but not consistently or at therapeutic levels.
It is interesting how this overlaps the dangers of the Retinoids, and no doubt the other side of the damaged-tissue coin, which is having sufficient and proper building-blocks to make new cell membranes for the cells that are themselves making/repairing the membranes of higher-order structures in the body. It's kind of fractal.
Some of the content of the video of Dr. Matheson's clinical experience with the oils, which is like Part 2 of this one, (same conference) is almost unbelievable, but plausible. It's worth a two-month experiment with the oils at higher intake levels.
Since his product is somewhat expensive, I replicated it last year, pretty closely anyway, through buying the refrigerated nutritional oils separately; the ones made by Flora in Canada and then tried approximating Brian's ratios.
Buying UDO's 3-6-9 from Flora is also pretty close I think to what Brian has developed. Udo Erasmus wrote Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill a long time ago and he covered some of this material. I'm tempted to read that again and compare to knowledge gained since he wrote it. There is some debate, that is there would be if you could get the folks on the same platform, about the appropriate LA-to-ALA ratio (Omega 6-to-Omega 3).
(did an edit above - reversed the LA-to-ALA terminology in the first draft)
Patricia and Ed Kane have written an excellent history, with the conclusion that LA-to-ALA should be 4-to-1 based on a study in Israel from the early 90's. They give credit to the Flax/Cottage Cheese promoter from Germany, Johanna Budwig, a famous biochemist, but also show how she got it wrong. Wikipedia dismisses Budwig for her anti-cancer claims and only alludes to the importance of her fight against the hydrogenation industry and their adulteration of oils (1950's timeframe), which at the time was literally heroic as I understand it. Here's a snip from Wiki. Note her focus on a "low oxygen environment", just as Brian Peskin is pointing at in the video. I like how Brian talked about "cellular respiration" being like a mitochondrial blast-furnace. That particular membrane might be the most important one in existence.
While working as a researcher at the German Federal Health Office she noted many cancer drugs being evaluated in the 1950s contained sulphydryl groups. Budwig believed sulphydryl compounds were important to cellular metabolism and cellular respiration.[1] Budwig researched the theory that a low oxygen environment would develop in the absence of sulphydryl groups and/or fatty acid partners that would encourage the proliferation of cancerous cells.[1] With H.P. Kaufmann she developed paper chromatography techniques to identify and quantify fatty acids.[1] Budwig used these techniques to compare the fatty acid profiles of sick and healthy individuals. This made her one of the first scientists to consider the health implications of fat consumption, according to Mannion et al. in a 2010 paper in the journal Nutrients.[1]
Brian does reference Patricia Kane (I think it was once in his book), but doesn't give much credit as I recall. Anyway, here's the pdf from the BodyBio Bulletin. http://becknatmed.com/doc/BodyBioBulletin-4to1Oil.pdf
Ed and Patricia Kane's product BodyBio Balance Oil is found at Amazon. It only has Sunflower and Flax oils, whereas Brian's includes Pumpkin seed and Evening Primrose in addition to those two (maybe one other as well).
UDO's 3-6-9 has the following ingredients (don't know the ratios) - Omega-3 ALA (alpha-linolenic acid), Omega-6 LA (linoleic acid), GLA (gamma-linolenic acid), Omega-9 OA (oleic acid). Organic flax seed oil, organic sunflower seed oil, organic sesame seed oil, organic coconut oil, organic evening primrose seed oil, organic rice bran oil, organic soy lecithin, organic oat bran oil, mixed tocopherols (non-GMO).
Thanks again for linking the video. I think it's really important stuff.
Quote from Guest on January 22, 2019, 11:57 amOrganic olive oil should be great then. Some forum members here are convinced that plant oils are the devil so I thought posting this might bring a different perspective.
Organic olive oil should be great then. Some forum members here are convinced that plant oils are the devil so I thought posting this might bring a different perspective.
Quote from somuch4food on January 22, 2019, 12:13 pmThat was me in the first reply 🙂
I actually like the guy, maybe because of his engineering background (I'm a web developer).
He's got a big mouth, but he's not pushing conspiracies and actually saying that people are trying their best to be healthy (they just don't have the right information).
That was me in the first reply 🙂
I actually like the guy, maybe because of his engineering background (I'm a web developer).
He's got a big mouth, but he's not pushing conspiracies and actually saying that people are trying their best to be healthy (they just don't have the right information).
Quote from somuch4food on January 22, 2019, 1:58 pmInteresting paper analysing the differences between freshly pressed sunflower oil and refined.
It shows no alterations in fatty acid profile: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4486537/
I'm thinking that oil bought from stores are Ok, but products made from those oils are rancids.
Interesting paper analysing the differences between freshly pressed sunflower oil and refined.
It shows no alterations in fatty acid profile: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4486537/
I'm thinking that oil bought from stores are Ok, but products made from those oils are rancids.
Quote from DWL on January 22, 2019, 6:39 pmOn a naturopath's recommendation I bought Peskin's book, his YES oils and his minerals several years ago. We took them religiously for maybe a year; we eventually combined individual oils. as John did. Peskin's book gives a formula for this that we used.
Although the oils' supplement seemed helpful for my general health, I noticed little more than increased energy.
After being low Vitamin A for six months, the cold pressed PEOs might be more beneficial to me. (my liver may more readily use them as oils tend to give me liver pain).
Through the years i have tried numerous treatments and diets, I've not found anything that has given benefits comparable to what I've had on Zero/low Vitamin A.
Thanks for posting the video. It's sparked my inteeest in the PEOs, once again.
On a naturopath's recommendation I bought Peskin's book, his YES oils and his minerals several years ago. We took them religiously for maybe a year; we eventually combined individual oils. as John did. Peskin's book gives a formula for this that we used.
Although the oils' supplement seemed helpful for my general health, I noticed little more than increased energy.
After being low Vitamin A for six months, the cold pressed PEOs might be more beneficial to me. (my liver may more readily use them as oils tend to give me liver pain).
Through the years i have tried numerous treatments and diets, I've not found anything that has given benefits comparable to what I've had on Zero/low Vitamin A.
Thanks for posting the video. It's sparked my inteeest in the PEOs, once again.
Quote from Guest on January 22, 2019, 7:20 pmI believe Dr. Garret has a post about black seed oil. People speak very highly of this oil and it is high omega 6 parent (LA). Really the reviews are amazing. Same with primrose oil. Maybe combined with low A the results would be better ? I feel that's the missing puzzle piece that Peskin (along with everybody else) is missing. Hey maybe more engineers need to get into nutrition :p
I believe Dr. Garret has a post about black seed oil. People speak very highly of this oil and it is high omega 6 parent (LA). Really the reviews are amazing. Same with primrose oil. Maybe combined with low A the results would be better ? I feel that's the missing puzzle piece that Peskin (along with everybody else) is missing. Hey maybe more engineers need to get into nutrition :p
Quote from Guest on January 22, 2019, 8:44 pmHi DWL,
It's hard to find products as recommended by Peskin on the market. Could you share the formula so we can recreate it ? Thanks
Hi DWL,
It's hard to find products as recommended by Peskin on the market. Could you share the formula so we can recreate it ? Thanks
Quote from DWL on January 22, 2019, 9:01 pmGuest, I'm away from home for a few days, but will look for the book on my return, and if I didn't discard it in my last book purge, I will be glad to send you the information.
Guest, I'm away from home for a few days, but will look for the book on my return, and if I didn't discard it in my last book purge, I will be glad to send you the information.