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Pasteurized Apple Juice
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Eduardo on September 26, 2019, 1:56 pm
Hi everyone, I'm new on the forum.
I have been following the no/low vitamin a diet for 2 weeks now and I seem to be making some progress but there is something that I haven't really figured out.
An apple have about 60mcg of Vitamin A but Apple juice have 0, does it means that the pasteurization of the juice transformed the A into retinoic acid?
Is that is the case then any pasteurized juice would be poison right and srtback progress.
What do you guys think?
Hi everyone, I'm new on the forum.
I have been following the no/low vitamin a diet for 2 weeks now and I seem to be making some progress but there is something that I haven't really figured out.
An apple have about 60mcg of Vitamin A but Apple juice have 0, does it means that the pasteurization of the juice transformed the A into retinoic acid?
Is that is the case then any pasteurized juice would be poison right and srtback progress.
What do you guys think?
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lil chick on September 26, 2019, 3:55 pm
Maybe the A is in the skins, and not the juice. Most of us here peel our apples (and other fruit and veg)...
Apples are very nutritious.
Maybe the A is in the skins, and not the juice. Most of us here peel our apples (and other fruit and veg)...
Apples are very nutritious.
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Josh on September 27, 2019, 12:41 am
I agree the VA is probably in the skin, not the flesh. By the way Dr. Smith has recently discovered a lot of research showing that lectin is an excellent way to reduce VA stores and circulating VA levels. It acts like a sponge. Apples are a very rich source of lectin. So eat lots of apples. If you purchase his detox program you can see the research and also details on which lectin supplements he recommends and at what doses. Meanwhile, eat lots of apples. There probably isn't much if any lectin in apple juice, because it's a fiber and so gets filtered out.
I agree the VA is probably in the skin, not the flesh. By the way Dr. Smith has recently discovered a lot of research showing that lectin is an excellent way to reduce VA stores and circulating VA levels. It acts like a sponge. Apples are a very rich source of lectin. So eat lots of apples. If you purchase his detox program you can see the research and also details on which lectin supplements he recommends and at what doses. Meanwhile, eat lots of apples. There probably isn't much if any lectin in apple juice, because it's a fiber and so gets filtered out.
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Rachel on September 27, 2019, 3:05 am
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Jenny on September 28, 2019, 1:58 pm
It’s Apple pectin not lectin - don’t want anyone to get confused.
It’s Apple pectin not lectin - don’t want anyone to get confused.
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salt on September 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
Apples and apple juice have significant amounts of VA. Most of the time when you see a 0 reading it just means they didn't measure it, or they rounded down to 0. You can reduce the VA content of apples by 70-80% by peeling them. Depending on your sensitivity, you may or may not react to apples and apple juice.
Regarding pectin, if you want to consume that, there is still significant amounts of pectin in apple juice if it's the cloudy kind.
Apples and apple juice have significant amounts of VA. Most of the time when you see a 0 reading it just means they didn't measure it, or they rounded down to 0. You can reduce the VA content of apples by 70-80% by peeling them. Depending on your sensitivity, you may or may not react to apples and apple juice.
Regarding pectin, if you want to consume that, there is still significant amounts of pectin in apple juice if it's the cloudy kind.
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tim on September 28, 2019, 8:35 pm
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salt on September 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
Apples and apple juice have significant amounts of VA. Most of the time when you see a 0 reading it just means they didn't measure it, or they rounded down to 0. You can reduce the VA content of apples by 70-80% by peeling them. Depending on your sensitivity, you may or may not react to apples and apple juice.
Regarding pectin, if you want to consume that, there is still significant amounts of pectin in apple juice if it's the cloudy kind.
All available evidence indicates that the amount of VA in an apple is not significant, nobody should be worrying about VA to this extent. This also applies to fatty meat (beef, lamb, pork) (in response to your other comment). Perhaps fatty meat can raise serum VA but it is not a significant source of it.
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salt on September 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
Apples and apple juice have significant amounts of VA. Most of the time when you see a 0 reading it just means they didn't measure it, or they rounded down to 0. You can reduce the VA content of apples by 70-80% by peeling them. Depending on your sensitivity, you may or may not react to apples and apple juice.
Regarding pectin, if you want to consume that, there is still significant amounts of pectin in apple juice if it's the cloudy kind.
All available evidence indicates that the amount of VA in an apple is not significant, nobody should be worrying about VA to this extent. This also applies to fatty meat (beef, lamb, pork) (in response to your other comment). Perhaps fatty meat can raise serum VA but it is not a significant source of it.
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salt on September 29, 2019, 3:39 am
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tim on September 28, 2019, 8:35 pm
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salt on September 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
Apples and apple juice have significant amounts of VA. Most of the time when you see a 0 reading it just means they didn't measure it, or they rounded down to 0. You can reduce the VA content of apples by 70-80% by peeling them. Depending on your sensitivity, you may or may not react to apples and apple juice.
Regarding pectin, if you want to consume that, there is still significant amounts of pectin in apple juice if it's the cloudy kind.
All available evidence indicates that the amount of VA in an apple is not significant, nobody should be worrying about VA to this extent. This also applies to fatty meat (beef, lamb, pork) (in response to your other comment). Perhaps fatty meat can raise serum VA but it is not a significant source of it.
I disagree. You are just regurgitating Garret's unsubstantiated opinion. There are plenty of people who get VA symptoms from fatty meat and from apples too. If it can raise serum VA that means it's significant.
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tim on September 28, 2019, 8:35 pm
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salt on September 28, 2019, 4:58 pm
Apples and apple juice have significant amounts of VA. Most of the time when you see a 0 reading it just means they didn't measure it, or they rounded down to 0. You can reduce the VA content of apples by 70-80% by peeling them. Depending on your sensitivity, you may or may not react to apples and apple juice.
Regarding pectin, if you want to consume that, there is still significant amounts of pectin in apple juice if it's the cloudy kind.
All available evidence indicates that the amount of VA in an apple is not significant, nobody should be worrying about VA to this extent. This also applies to fatty meat (beef, lamb, pork) (in response to your other comment). Perhaps fatty meat can raise serum VA but it is not a significant source of it.
I disagree. You are just regurgitating Garret's unsubstantiated opinion. There are plenty of people who get VA symptoms from fatty meat and from apples too. If it can raise serum VA that means it's significant.
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lil chick on September 29, 2019, 11:14 am
I appreciate both ideas here, and I think because the vitamin A theory is so young that both ideas need to be here.
However, my opinion falls on the side with Tim--I'm not going to worry about the small amounts of VA in foods that I feel are important to my health, such as apples or animal fats. In fact, I cheat quite a bit to keep certain nutrients in my diet.
Personally I don't see myself reacting to small changes in diet as much as to 1. alcohol 2. sun 3. sweating/exertion/over-doing all of which, IMO stirs up vitamin A much more than small cheats in my diet.
That being said, my progress is slow. I wish I had an imoge for my facial expression right now, LOL.
I appreciate both ideas here, and I think because the vitamin A theory is so young that both ideas need to be here.
However, my opinion falls on the side with Tim--I'm not going to worry about the small amounts of VA in foods that I feel are important to my health, such as apples or animal fats. In fact, I cheat quite a bit to keep certain nutrients in my diet.
Personally I don't see myself reacting to small changes in diet as much as to 1. alcohol 2. sun 3. sweating/exertion/over-doing all of which, IMO stirs up vitamin A much more than small cheats in my diet.
That being said, my progress is slow. I wish I had an imoge for my facial expression right now, LOL.
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Jenny on September 29, 2019, 12:38 pm
Totally agree lil chick we need to keep both ideas. How much VA will stop the VA detox? No one knows the answer to this & I suspect it’s probably individual with many aspects to consider. I don’t do very restrictive diets as they don’t suit me mentally, socially or I suspect nutritionally. I’m just being sensible & moderate. I’m definitely detoxing VA so it’s obviously enough for me.
Also, if one focuses on a small number of foods that you eat again & again one runs the risk of causing a new problem caused by the excessive eating of those foods. All foods are good & bad. Variety is a way to dilute the possibility of over doing a food that could turn out being very bad for you imo.
Totally agree lil chick we need to keep both ideas. How much VA will stop the VA detox? No one knows the answer to this & I suspect it’s probably individual with many aspects to consider. I don’t do very restrictive diets as they don’t suit me mentally, socially or I suspect nutritionally. I’m just being sensible & moderate. I’m definitely detoxing VA so it’s obviously enough for me.
Also, if one focuses on a small number of foods that you eat again & again one runs the risk of causing a new problem caused by the excessive eating of those foods. All foods are good & bad. Variety is a way to dilute the possibility of over doing a food that could turn out being very bad for you imo.
