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Pufas
Quote from Guest on February 5, 2019, 12:40 pmanyone know What Grant Or Garrett think of Pufas?
thanks!
anyone know What Grant Or Garrett think of Pufas?
thanks!
Quote from somuch4food on February 5, 2019, 1:46 pmI haven't seen their opinion anywhere, but there is a thread on Omega 3 supplementation that has an interesting discussion.
I have no authority, but my current approach is to avoid vegetable oils in processed foods since most are a long time on shelves and potentially very oxidized. I don't fret about using oils in cooking.
Another situation were I can see them being even more harmful is in fried products. The oils are often reheated multiple times with each heating further damaging the integrity of the oil.
I also eat sunflower seeds and nuts as snacks.
I haven't seen their opinion anywhere, but there is a thread on Omega 3 supplementation that has an interesting discussion.
I have no authority, but my current approach is to avoid vegetable oils in processed foods since most are a long time on shelves and potentially very oxidized. I don't fret about using oils in cooking.
Another situation were I can see them being even more harmful is in fried products. The oils are often reheated multiple times with each heating further damaging the integrity of the oil.
I also eat sunflower seeds and nuts as snacks.
Quote from Guest on February 6, 2019, 8:42 amThanks!
comming from Ray Peat diet Where every seed and nut is a big no no I'm just confused about wheter to just avoid vit-a Or also Continue avoiding any pufas, including whole food ones...
Thanks!
comming from Ray Peat diet Where every seed and nut is a big no no I'm just confused about wheter to just avoid vit-a Or also Continue avoiding any pufas, including whole food ones...
Quote from Orion on February 6, 2019, 9:00 amI stick with any that is un-saturated, could cause potential issues. vitA is highly un-saturated from what I recall, so avoiding it along with PUFAs is probably best.
I stick with any that is un-saturated, could cause potential issues. vitA is highly un-saturated from what I recall, so avoiding it along with PUFAs is probably best.
Quote from Guest on February 6, 2019, 9:59 amThe problem is the when the omega 6 becomes adultered through the refining of the oil. Nuts and seeds that are intact are wonderful. Look up Dr Peskin or the “Omega 3” conversation on this forum. I used to ray pest and dutifully avoid all pufas even whole food ones. Don’t make yourself crazy doing that. The problem is with the commercial vegetable oils not the whole foods, they are beneficial.
The problem is the when the omega 6 becomes adultered through the refining of the oil. Nuts and seeds that are intact are wonderful. Look up Dr Peskin or the “Omega 3” conversation on this forum. I used to ray pest and dutifully avoid all pufas even whole food ones. Don’t make yourself crazy doing that. The problem is with the commercial vegetable oils not the whole foods, they are beneficial.
Quote from hillcountry on February 6, 2019, 12:00 pmhttp://becknatmed.com/doc/BodyBioBulletin-4to1Oil.pdf
Page 18 under Tech Notes is a good summary in my opinion. No idea what Grant or Garrett think about this subject.
http://becknatmed.com/doc/BodyBioBulletin-4to1Oil.pdf
Page 18 under Tech Notes is a good summary in my opinion. No idea what Grant or Garrett think about this subject.
Quote from Guest on February 6, 2019, 12:54 pmThanks!🙏🏻
Thanks!🙏🏻
Quote from Ian McCoondog on February 24, 2019, 3:16 pmMy preference is to generally avoid PUFAs (I had followed some of Peat's suggestions for a few years, while making many of my IBS and other symptoms progressively worse). I find that I respond poorer to PUFAs than I do to more saturated and monounsaturated fats. I also suspect, once my guts and skin and the rest of me is further on the healing path that it feels my low retinoid diet is taking me, PUFAs will be less of an issue for me.
In a somewhat degenerated state of health, many things that would otherwise be okay can be devastating. In relatively good health, many bits of health advice can likely be dismissed as mere canards.
My preference is to generally avoid PUFAs (I had followed some of Peat's suggestions for a few years, while making many of my IBS and other symptoms progressively worse). I find that I respond poorer to PUFAs than I do to more saturated and monounsaturated fats. I also suspect, once my guts and skin and the rest of me is further on the healing path that it feels my low retinoid diet is taking me, PUFAs will be less of an issue for me.
In a somewhat degenerated state of health, many things that would otherwise be okay can be devastating. In relatively good health, many bits of health advice can likely be dismissed as mere canards.
Quote from leap7 on July 18, 2021, 4:14 pmI am kind of undecided on PUFAs. I followed the Ray Peat diet and so avoided PUFAs for a year while I was doing that. I took a more liberal approach when I did a low Vitamin A diet - I often ate chips fried in sunflower oil. This probably wasn't so good for me since the oils were probably rancid. However, I've recently tried introducing raw PUFAs into my diet - cold pressed sunflower oil and raw cashews. I think these helped my sleep for a bit of time and perhaps (?) also helped my skin. If I remember correctly, @puddleduck notices an improvement when incorporating raw pressed oils.
I am kind of undecided on PUFAs. I followed the Ray Peat diet and so avoided PUFAs for a year while I was doing that. I took a more liberal approach when I did a low Vitamin A diet - I often ate chips fried in sunflower oil. This probably wasn't so good for me since the oils were probably rancid. However, I've recently tried introducing raw PUFAs into my diet - cold pressed sunflower oil and raw cashews. I think these helped my sleep for a bit of time and perhaps (?) also helped my skin. If I remember correctly, @puddleduck notices an improvement when incorporating raw pressed oils.
Quote from leap7 on July 18, 2021, 4:40 pmAlso, just want to add that Karen Hurd seems to prefer PUFAs over saturated fats. Even for cooking, so I'm assuming that means she isn't worried about oil rancidity... ?
Also, just want to add that Karen Hurd seems to prefer PUFAs over saturated fats. Even for cooking, so I'm assuming that means she isn't worried about oil rancidity... ?