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Joe2 on November 23, 2025, 12:01 am
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grapes on November 21, 2025, 11:58 am
I don't believe in "terrain only" theory. As an (extreme) example if this were true, we could allow children, who have mostly sane terrain, to drink stale dirty water supposing pathogens shouldn't develop and cause disease in their bodies.
Why would a child have any saner terrain than their parent?
Parents (mother) pass some of their toxins to a child while she's pregnant but that is limited for sure. It is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation, because they did not have time to accumulate.
Evidence that this "is limited for sure"? Evidence that it "is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation?"
Extreme / definitive / authoritative statements require extreme / definitive / authoritative proofs.
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grapes on November 21, 2025, 11:58 am
I don't believe in "terrain only" theory. As an (extreme) example if this were true, we could allow children, who have mostly sane terrain, to drink stale dirty water supposing pathogens shouldn't develop and cause disease in their bodies.
Why would a child have any saner terrain than their parent?
Parents (mother) pass some of their toxins to a child while she's pregnant but that is limited for sure. It is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation, because they did not have time to accumulate.
Evidence that this "is limited for sure"? Evidence that it "is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation?"
Extreme / definitive / authoritative statements require extreme / definitive / authoritative proofs.
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grapes on November 23, 2025, 1:04 am
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Joe2 on November 23, 2025, 12:01 am
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grapes on November 21, 2025, 11:58 am
I don't believe in "terrain only" theory. As an (extreme) example if this were true, we could allow children, who have mostly sane terrain, to drink stale dirty water supposing pathogens shouldn't develop and cause disease in their bodies.
Why would a child have any saner terrain than their parent?
Parents (mother) pass some of their toxins to a child while she's pregnant but that is limited for sure. It is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation, because they did not have time to accumulate.
Evidence that this "is limited for sure"? Evidence that it "is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation?"
Extreme / definitive / authoritative statements require extreme / definitive / authoritative proofs.
You made an extreme statement that children's terrain is no different from their parents. I doubted it and you asked for evidence. Why don't you start providing evidence yourself?
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Joe2 on November 23, 2025, 12:01 am
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grapes on November 21, 2025, 11:58 am
I don't believe in "terrain only" theory. As an (extreme) example if this were true, we could allow children, who have mostly sane terrain, to drink stale dirty water supposing pathogens shouldn't develop and cause disease in their bodies.
Why would a child have any saner terrain than their parent?
Parents (mother) pass some of their toxins to a child while she's pregnant but that is limited for sure. It is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation, because they did not have time to accumulate.
Evidence that this "is limited for sure"? Evidence that it "is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation?"
Extreme / definitive / authoritative statements require extreme / definitive / authoritative proofs.
You made an extreme statement that children's terrain is no different from their parents. I doubted it and you asked for evidence. Why don't you start providing evidence yourself?
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grapes on November 21, 2025, 11:58 am
I don't believe in "terrain only" theory. As an (extreme) example if this were true, we could allow children, who have mostly sane terrain, to drink stale dirty water supposing pathogens shouldn't develop and cause disease in their bodies.
Why would a child have any saner terrain than their parent?
Parents (mother) pass some of their toxins to a child while she's pregnant but that is limited for sure. It is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation, because they did not have time to accumulate.
Evidence that this "is limited for sure"? Evidence that it "is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation?"
Extreme / definitive / authoritative statements require extreme / definitive / authoritative proofs.
You made an extreme statement that children's terrain is no different from their parents. I doubted it and you asked for evidence. Why don't you start providing evidence yourself?
Where did I say that?
I asked for evidence for your statements.
You asked me to provide evidence for the opposite of your statements.
Evidence is all around us everywhere. If you are not willing to provide evidence for your assertions about where children get their microbiota, toxic burden and their terrain, then what is your logic for why children are so different from their parents. Are they eating foods massively cleaner and different than their parents? Are they living in vastly cleaner environments?
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grapes on November 21, 2025, 11:58 am
I don't believe in "terrain only" theory. As an (extreme) example if this were true, we could allow children, who have mostly sane terrain, to drink stale dirty water supposing pathogens shouldn't develop and cause disease in their bodies.
Why would a child have any saner terrain than their parent?
Parents (mother) pass some of their toxins to a child while she's pregnant but that is limited for sure. It is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation, because they did not have time to accumulate.
Evidence that this "is limited for sure"? Evidence that it "is quite obvious that children in general have much less toxins accumulation?"
Extreme / definitive / authoritative statements require extreme / definitive / authoritative proofs.
You made an extreme statement that children's terrain is no different from their parents. I doubted it and you asked for evidence. Why don't you start providing evidence yourself?
Where did I say that?
I asked for evidence for your statements.
You asked me to provide evidence for the opposite of your statements.
Evidence is all around us everywhere. If you are not willing to provide evidence for your assertions about where children get their microbiota, toxic burden and their terrain, then what is your logic for why children are so different from their parents. Are they eating foods massively cleaner and different than their parents? Are they living in vastly cleaner environments?
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grapes on November 23, 2025, 1:25 am
- Microbiota is germs, not terrain.
- Toxic burden does come with years of accumulation, which is quite obvious, or you need evidence for that? Children simply have not had time to accumulate toxins.
- Why would cleaner environments matter for you if you're saying that germs don't matter?
- Microbiota is germs, not terrain.
- Toxic burden does come with years of accumulation, which is quite obvious, or you need evidence for that? Children simply have not had time to accumulate toxins.
- Why would cleaner environments matter for you if you're saying that germs don't matter?
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Joe2 on November 23, 2025, 1:55 am
These statements get repeated. The logic does not stand. Why would environmental burden not be handed down from parents. Children are uniformly intoxicated from Mom's milk and womb.
When did I say germs don't matter?
Where is evidence that toxic burden needs years of accumulation? Why do you say it is quite obvious and pretend it is a given? Why are children more and more frequently born jaundiced? If microbiota are germs then why are we dependent on them? By using the term germ, are you not meaning pathogen?
These statements get repeated. The logic does not stand. Why would environmental burden not be handed down from parents. Children are uniformly intoxicated from Mom's milk and womb.
When did I say germs don't matter?
Where is evidence that toxic burden needs years of accumulation? Why do you say it is quite obvious and pretend it is a given? Why are children more and more frequently born jaundiced? If microbiota are germs then why are we dependent on them? By using the term germ, are you not meaning pathogen?
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Joe2 on November 23, 2025, 1:55 am
Why would environmental burden not be handed down from parents. Children are uniformly intoxicated from Mom's milk and womb.
Where is evidence that toxic burden needs years of accumulation? Why do you say it is quite obvious and pretend it is a given?
Again you are stating your assertions without evidence but ask others for evidence. Maybe start a thread asking Grant why he thinks we need years of vit A accumulation and not simply transmitting it generation to generation?
Anyway, I won't waste my time anymore on you.
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Joe2 on November 23, 2025, 1:55 am
Why would environmental burden not be handed down from parents. Children are uniformly intoxicated from Mom's milk and womb.
Where is evidence that toxic burden needs years of accumulation? Why do you say it is quite obvious and pretend it is a given?
Again you are stating your assertions without evidence but ask others for evidence. Maybe start a thread asking Grant why he thinks we need years of vit A accumulation and not simply transmitting it generation to generation?
Anyway, I won't waste my time anymore on you.
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lil chick on November 23, 2025, 6:29 am
awe, it's a shame this rabbit hole went hot.
Whether kids inherit bad terrain and etc is a separate subject, let's stick to rosacea and seb derm.
awe, it's a shame this rabbit hole went hot.
Whether kids inherit bad terrain and etc is a separate subject, let's stick to rosacea and seb derm.
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