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Salt sensitivity?
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Adrien on August 15, 2022, 10:12 pm
It's been several years now that I eat a salt-free diet providing only about 0,5g or less of salt per day from food.
Sea salt even at low intakes i.e. 3g/d seems to cause inflammation for me, and each time I try to reintroduce some in my diet I got dry cracking skin, redness, rashes, red pimples on thighs, and congestion.
Did some of you notice adverse reactions at such low intakes? What's you guys daily salt intake?
It's been several years now that I eat a salt-free diet providing only about 0,5g or less of salt per day from food.
Sea salt even at low intakes i.e. 3g/d seems to cause inflammation for me, and each time I try to reintroduce some in my diet I got dry cracking skin, redness, rashes, red pimples on thighs, and congestion.
Did some of you notice adverse reactions at such low intakes? What's you guys daily salt intake?
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mmb3664 on August 16, 2022, 4:00 am
I have never heard of such negative reactions to salt, but everyone is different. Just some follow-up questions:
- How quickly do you experience the symptoms you mentioned after increasing salt intake, i.e. is it almost immediate (same day) or does it take a while for the symptoms to come on?
- Are you sure it is just the increase in salt that causes your symptoms, i.e. it is the only variable changing in your diet/lifestyle?
- What type of salt are you using?
- Do you have a craving for salt or notice that food is more palatable when you salt it?
I am not sure I will be able to provide much help, but if you provide more information/answers to the above questions, it may help someone else help you?
Since you asked, I currently eat twice a day and use 1/4 tsp of pure white sea salt on each meal. I also use an electrolyte mix that has an additional 500mg of sodium. I used to salt my food a lot more, but was experimenting with my salt:potassium ratio last year, which ultimately led me to reduce my salt intake...I never bothered to increase salt intake after my experiment and don't seem to crave salt.
I have never heard of such negative reactions to salt, but everyone is different. Just some follow-up questions:
- How quickly do you experience the symptoms you mentioned after increasing salt intake, i.e. is it almost immediate (same day) or does it take a while for the symptoms to come on?
- Are you sure it is just the increase in salt that causes your symptoms, i.e. it is the only variable changing in your diet/lifestyle?
- What type of salt are you using?
- Do you have a craving for salt or notice that food is more palatable when you salt it?
I am not sure I will be able to provide much help, but if you provide more information/answers to the above questions, it may help someone else help you?
Since you asked, I currently eat twice a day and use 1/4 tsp of pure white sea salt on each meal. I also use an electrolyte mix that has an additional 500mg of sodium. I used to salt my food a lot more, but was experimenting with my salt:potassium ratio last year, which ultimately led me to reduce my salt intake...I never bothered to increase salt intake after my experiment and don't seem to crave salt.
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Celia on August 16, 2022, 1:52 pm
I stopped using salt April 2022. I get edema and I think it increases my histamine symptoms. I currently only eat muscle meat though.
I stopped using salt April 2022. I get edema and I think it increases my histamine symptoms. I currently only eat muscle meat though.
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Adrien on August 16, 2022, 10:12 pm
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mmb3664 on August 16, 2022, 4:00 am
I have never heard of such negative reactions to salt, but everyone is different. Just some follow-up questions:
- How quickly do you experience the symptoms you mentioned after increasing salt intake, i.e. is it almost immediate (same day) or does it take a while for the symptoms to come on?
- Are you sure it is just the increase in salt that causes your symptoms, i.e. it is the only variable changing in your diet/lifestyle?
- What type of salt are you using?
- Do you have a craving for salt or notice that food is more palatable when you salt it?
I am not sure I will be able to provide much help, but if you provide more information/answers to the above questions, it may help someone else help you?
Since you asked, I currently eat twice a day and use 1/4 tsp of pure white sea salt on each meal. I also use an electrolyte mix that has an additional 500mg of sodium. I used to salt my food a lot more, but was experimenting with my salt:potassium ratio last year, which ultimately led me to reduce my salt intake...I never bothered to increase salt intake after my experiment and don't seem to crave salt.
- It usually takes 12-24h for the symptoms to develop.
- Yes, it is the only variable.
- Natural sea salt (non-iodized)
- I like the taste of salt,but now I'm used to eat without it. I think salt makes food more palatable for everyone.
May I ask if you noticed some benefits after having reduced your salt intake? Thanks
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Celia on August 16, 2022, 1:52 pm
I stopped using salt April 2022. I get edema and I think it increases my histamine symptoms. I currently only eat muscle meat though.
That's intersting, I think it might be related to histamine too, I also got some sort of water retention if I use a lot of salt.
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mmb3664 on August 16, 2022, 4:00 am
I have never heard of such negative reactions to salt, but everyone is different. Just some follow-up questions:
- How quickly do you experience the symptoms you mentioned after increasing salt intake, i.e. is it almost immediate (same day) or does it take a while for the symptoms to come on?
- Are you sure it is just the increase in salt that causes your symptoms, i.e. it is the only variable changing in your diet/lifestyle?
- What type of salt are you using?
- Do you have a craving for salt or notice that food is more palatable when you salt it?
I am not sure I will be able to provide much help, but if you provide more information/answers to the above questions, it may help someone else help you?
Since you asked, I currently eat twice a day and use 1/4 tsp of pure white sea salt on each meal. I also use an electrolyte mix that has an additional 500mg of sodium. I used to salt my food a lot more, but was experimenting with my salt:potassium ratio last year, which ultimately led me to reduce my salt intake...I never bothered to increase salt intake after my experiment and don't seem to crave salt.
- It usually takes 12-24h for the symptoms to develop.
- Yes, it is the only variable.
- Natural sea salt (non-iodized)
- I like the taste of salt,but now I'm used to eat without it. I think salt makes food more palatable for everyone.
May I ask if you noticed some benefits after having reduced your salt intake? Thanks
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Celia on August 16, 2022, 1:52 pm
I stopped using salt April 2022. I get edema and I think it increases my histamine symptoms. I currently only eat muscle meat though.
That's intersting, I think it might be related to histamine too, I also got some sort of water retention if I use a lot of salt.
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mmb3664 on August 17, 2022, 12:21 pm
@adrien-2 I have not noticed any positive or negative impacts of reducing sodium intake.
I'm still a bit perplexed by your reaction to salt; I cannot provide any additional input based on the answers you provided. Sorry :/
@adrien-2 I have not noticed any positive or negative impacts of reducing sodium intake.
I'm still a bit perplexed by your reaction to salt; I cannot provide any additional input based on the answers you provided. Sorry :/
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Anon33 on August 19, 2022, 6:25 pm
I get muscle cramps (calves/abdominals) from eating salt. When I first tried doing a carnivore diet I read it’s important to increase your salt intake so I did and started having horrible nighttime calf cramps. Over time I figured out they were caused by caffeine and salt. Each one can independently cause the cramps and together they just amplified the issue. I have also read a couple accounts of people on a carnivore diet not being able to resolve their psoriasis until they stopped using salt.
I get muscle cramps (calves/abdominals) from eating salt. When I first tried doing a carnivore diet I read it’s important to increase your salt intake so I did and started having horrible nighttime calf cramps. Over time I figured out they were caused by caffeine and salt. Each one can independently cause the cramps and together they just amplified the issue. I have also read a couple accounts of people on a carnivore diet not being able to resolve their psoriasis until they stopped using salt.
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Adrien on August 25, 2022, 3:10 am
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Anon33 on August 19, 2022, 6:25 pm
I get muscle cramps (calves/abdominals) from eating salt. When I first tried doing a carnivore diet I read it’s important to increase your salt intake so I did and started having horrible nighttime calf cramps. Over time I figured out they were caused by caffeine and salt. Each one can independently cause the cramps and together they just amplified the issue. I have also read a couple accounts of people on a carnivore diet not being able to resolve their psoriasis until they stopped using salt.
It could be because high sodium is suspected to deplete calcium, it seems also that sodium intake is linked to risk for atopic dermatitis and psoriasis.
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Arena on August 20, 2022, 3:26 am
My eyes get messed up, really visible red veins, when I eat sea salt, especially maldon sea salt. It is so predictable. I need to use the "regular" cheap, fine-grained salt. Really weird.
It looks like I'm reacting less to refined salt too, but I tried to ate quite a lot of it recently and I'm experiencing pretty bad edemas 🙁
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Anon33 on August 19, 2022, 6:25 pm
I get muscle cramps (calves/abdominals) from eating salt. When I first tried doing a carnivore diet I read it’s important to increase your salt intake so I did and started having horrible nighttime calf cramps. Over time I figured out they were caused by caffeine and salt. Each one can independently cause the cramps and together they just amplified the issue. I have also read a couple accounts of people on a carnivore diet not being able to resolve their psoriasis until they stopped using salt.
It could be because high sodium is suspected to deplete calcium, it seems also that sodium intake is linked to risk for atopic dermatitis and psoriasis.
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Arena on August 20, 2022, 3:26 am
My eyes get messed up, really visible red veins, when I eat sea salt, especially maldon sea salt. It is so predictable. I need to use the "regular" cheap, fine-grained salt. Really weird.
It looks like I'm reacting less to refined salt too, but I tried to ate quite a lot of it recently and I'm experiencing pretty bad edemas 🙁
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lil chick on August 25, 2022, 1:13 pm
Wow, as a foot cramp sufferer and salt addict I'm watching this thread closely. I do remember posting that my foot cramps seemed related to salty potato chips.
Grant mentioned in his recent blog post that salt is a diuretic. Is that so? I always thought it was the opposite, that salt helped you keep water.
I guess it isn't very intuitive that people would have always had salt in the huge quantities that I like to take it.
Wow, as a foot cramp sufferer and salt addict I'm watching this thread closely. I do remember posting that my foot cramps seemed related to salty potato chips.
Grant mentioned in his recent blog post that salt is a diuretic. Is that so? I always thought it was the opposite, that salt helped you keep water.
I guess it isn't very intuitive that people would have always had salt in the huge quantities that I like to take it.
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lil chick on September 9, 2022, 8:25 am
I just posted about bunions and I've started doing exercises for them. These exercises are causing cramping no matter what day it is or my salt intake on that day. Perhaps our cramping is about physically tight musculature and tendons.
I just posted about bunions and I've started doing exercises for them. These exercises are causing cramping no matter what day it is or my salt intake on that day. Perhaps our cramping is about physically tight musculature and tendons.
@lil-chick
I've been struggling with muscle cramps and incessant spasms for years now and I've probed this question from many angles. Everything I've read indicates that muscle contraction is ultimately about electrolytes and transmission of electrical impulses, but there are a ton of parameters that influence this: hydration, oxygen, acidity, neurotransmitters, nutrient availability, etc.
The suspects at the top of my list lately are (1) a general lack of taurine (which is used to manage electrolyte balance inside the cell and gets depleted by detoxification processes), or (2) a lack of pantothenic acid (which is used to generate coenzyme A needed for oxidative energy metabolism and gets depleted by detoxification processes). It could also be that Vitamin A directly interferes with electrolyte balance within the cell, but that doesn't seem like the best explanation for my own symptom pattern.
However, I've tried supplementing both taurine and pantothenic acid to no avail, and I'm already getting quite a lot of these nutrients from all the meat I eat, so I'm still left scratching my head on this one.
@lil-chick
I've been struggling with muscle cramps and incessant spasms for years now and I've probed this question from many angles. Everything I've read indicates that muscle contraction is ultimately about electrolytes and transmission of electrical impulses, but there are a ton of parameters that influence this: hydration, oxygen, acidity, neurotransmitters, nutrient availability, etc.
The suspects at the top of my list lately are (1) a general lack of taurine (which is used to manage electrolyte balance inside the cell and gets depleted by detoxification processes), or (2) a lack of pantothenic acid (which is used to generate coenzyme A needed for oxidative energy metabolism and gets depleted by detoxification processes). It could also be that Vitamin A directly interferes with electrolyte balance within the cell, but that doesn't seem like the best explanation for my own symptom pattern.
However, I've tried supplementing both taurine and pantothenic acid to no avail, and I'm already getting quite a lot of these nutrients from all the meat I eat, so I'm still left scratching my head on this one.
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