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#11 · October 27, 2019, 8:33 am

Quote from bludicka on October 27, 2019, 7:55 am

I didn't tell anyone in my family about this diet, after decade of my healing attempts - first mercury, heavy metal chelation, then copper, adrenal fatigue, electrosensitivity (my attempts to shield the apartment with the carbon paint, aluminium foil, sleeping in a special tent and running with the measure device and cap everywhere)...leaky gut, gaps diet, no gluten... three years ago I stopped talking about my health problems and treatment, everyone is already tired of it - I am tired too!, oxalate and low vitamin A diet - that would by too much and really sci-fi. But my friend asked me why I am not juicing carrots anymore and I told him there is a lot of glyphosates and it is concentrated in juice. I have no problems with my social life because it is zero :))).

I'd hang out with you, being able to laugh and discuss these topics in person would be a good thing! But ya I don't discuss this with friends, just like I didn't discuss Peating, it would be all sci-fi and tinfoil hats for mainstream dieters.

#12 · October 27, 2019, 10:14 am

Quote from Orion on October 27, 2019, 8:33 am

Quote from bludicka on October 27, 2019, 7:55 am

I didn't tell anyone in my family about this diet, after decade of my healing attempts - first mercury, heavy metal chelation, then copper, adrenal fatigue, electrosensitivity (my attempts to shield the apartment with the carbon paint, aluminium foil, sleeping in a special tent and running with the measure device and cap everywhere)...leaky gut, gaps diet, no gluten... three years ago I stopped talking about my health problems and treatment, everyone is already tired of it - I am tired too!, oxalate and low vitamin A diet - that would by too much and really sci-fi. But my friend asked me why I am not juicing carrots anymore and I told him there is a lot of glyphosates and it is concentrated in juice. I have no problems with my social life because it is zero :))).

I'd hang out with you, being able to laugh and discuss these topics in person would be a good thing! But ya I don't discuss this with friends, just like I didn't discuss Peating, it would be all sci-fi and tinfoil hats for mainstream dieters.

My english is very miserable for a smarter and fun conversation and the brain fog slows down my reaction times. And there is a reason why my social life is nonexistent but I hope that over time this low VA diet will completely change my low dopamine person:). It's getting better because I'm starting to have a sense of humor.

Just write here with my english about more medical and professional matters, it's a heroic feat.

#13 · October 28, 2019, 3:29 am

Quote from hillcountry on October 28, 2019, 3:29 am
@bludicka - just want to give you a heads-up on this if you haven't seen it. I ran across the Andy Cutler mercury chelation protocol last week on an ozone forum and did some poking around and decided it made sense to buy the book he wrote with Rebecca Rust Lee (copyright 2019, two years after he passed away). Got it yesterday and couldn't put it down. I had no idea about many of the crucial details they explain, and now regret having done EDTA chelation for my lead toxicity, acquired due to industrial and electronics work; and my half-assed, misinformed attempts to chelate mercury out of my body with different things once I figured out that was more important than getting the lead out. Things are making a lot more sense. I scraped, sanded and painted scores of garages and houses and had no idea until reading this book that they put Phenylmercuric Acetate into both interior and exterior latex paint at rates of 300ppm and 2000ppm respectively, all the way up until 1991. I had no idea how serious it is to try to chelate mercury if there's even a speck or a chip of it left behind after having amalgams removed; even a speck or chip left underneath a crown, which is hard to detect. They describe the devastating effects of mobilizing mercury with Alpha Lipoic Acid, but not dosing at precise times, around the clock, to account for its half-life; and how it will let-go of the mercury, which, if you don't have a lot of fresh ALA incoming to catch it again, is then potentially able to lodge in a more delicate tissue than it was chelated from, like having it go from muscle to brain tissue. They also describe the regression in health they've seen from the use of Cilantro, which no one has identified the active agent of thus far. The fact that mercury toxicity causes many of the same symptoms we're suspecting are due to Retinoic Acid is troubling. Look at the cover of the book on this page of an Andy Cutler website to get a sense of that. -https://noamalgam.com/product/amalgam-illness-diagnosis-and-treatment/ The testimonial page is pretty interesting too.

@bludicka - just want to give you a heads-up on this if you haven't seen it. I ran across the Andy Cutler mercury chelation protocol last week on an ozone forum and did some poking around and decided it made sense to buy the book he wrote with Rebecca Rust Lee (copyright 2019, two years after he passed away). Got it yesterday and couldn't put it down. I had no idea about many of the crucial details they explain, and now regret having done EDTA chelation for my lead toxicity, acquired due to industrial and electronics work; and my half-assed, misinformed attempts to chelate mercury out of my body with different things once I figured out that was more important than getting the lead out. Things are making a lot more sense. I scraped, sanded and painted scores of garages and houses and had no idea until reading this book that they put Phenylmercuric Acetate into both interior and exterior latex paint at rates of 300ppm and 2000ppm respectively, all the way up until 1991. I had no idea how serious it is to try to chelate mercury if there's even a speck or a chip of it left behind after having amalgams removed; even a speck or chip left underneath a crown, which is hard to detect. They describe the devastating effects of mobilizing mercury with Alpha Lipoic Acid, but not dosing at precise times, around the clock, to account for its half-life; and how it will let-go of the mercury, which, if you don't have a lot of fresh ALA incoming to catch it again, is then potentially able to lodge in a more delicate tissue than it was chelated from, like having it go from muscle to brain tissue. They also describe the regression in health they've seen from the use of Cilantro, which no one has identified the active agent of thus far. The fact that mercury toxicity causes many of the same symptoms we're suspecting are due to Retinoic Acid is troubling. Look at the cover of the book on this page of an Andy Cutler website to get a sense of that. -https://noamalgam.com/product/amalgam-illness-diagnosis-and-treatment/ The testimonial page is pretty interesting too.

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#14 · October 28, 2019, 4:29 am

Quote from bludicka on October 28, 2019, 4:29 am

Quote from hillcountry on October 28, 2019, 3:29 am

@bludicka - just want to give you a heads-up on this if you haven't seen it. I ran across the Andy Cutler mercury chelation protocol last week on an ozone forum and did some poking around and decided it made sense to buy the book he wrote with Rebecca Rust Lee (copyright 2019, two years after he passed away). Got it yesterday and couldn't put it down. I had no idea about many of the crucial details they explain, and now regret having done EDTA chelation for my lead toxicity, acquired due to industrial and electronics work; and my half-assed, misinformed attempts to chelate mercury out of my body with different things once I figured out that was more important than getting the lead out. Things are making a lot more sense. I scraped, sanded and painted scores of garages and houses and had no idea until reading this book that they put Phenylmercuric Acetate into both interior and exterior latex paint at rates of 300ppm and 2000ppm respectively, all the way up until 1991. I had no idea how serious it is to try to chelate mercury if there's even a speck or a chip of it left behind after having amalgams removed; even a speck or chip left underneath a crown, which is hard to detect. They describe the devastating effects of mobilizing mercury with Alpha Lipoic Acid, but not dosing at precise times, around the clock, to account for its half-life; and how it will let-go of the mercury, which, if you don't have a lot of fresh ALA incoming to catch it again, is then potentially able to lodge in a more delicate tissue than it was chelated from, like having it go from muscle to brain tissue. They also describe the regression in health they've seen from the use of Cilantro, which no one has identified the active agent of thus far. The fact that mercury toxicity causes many of the same symptoms we're suspecting are due to Retinoic Acid is troubling. Look at the cover of the book on this page of an Andy Cutler website to get a sense of that. -https://noamalgam.com/product/amalgam-illness-diagnosis-and-treatment/ The testimonial page is pretty interesting too.

I have both of Cutler's books, bought in 2010, he was really a genius and no one understood the mechanism of chelation, the whole biochemistry like him. Befor Cutler's protocol I did DMPS IV chelation and I thought I was going to die, too much mercury was mobilized, severe kidney pains... adrenal fatigue started, it took me a few months to get my body stronger and I could start with his protocol. I did his protocol first for 3,5 years a then other heavy metals especially copper began to excrete - it could be seen on the hair analysis and after copper I continuted with his protocol. Today I have no reactions to chelating agents BUT in the last three years I started to have more serious symptoms of VA toxicity and these two - mercury, heavy metals toxicity and VA toxicity, the symptoms are very similar! That's why it was so difficult for me to figure out what was happening to me - I had no idea about oxalates and chronic VA toxicity.

This I have found in his book, page 150, I know this drug from lyme protocols but I was looking for something about ALDH enzymes and mercury:

"Disulfiram (Rx) is used to prevent alcohol abuse. There are two reasons mercury toxic people should not take it. The first is that disulfiram is known to mobilize heavy metals and concentrate them in the brain. The second is that it inhibits the liver enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase and mercury poisoned people already have enough trouble metabolizing things without gratuitously blocking an enzyme. It is likely to already be working poorly enough due to mercury that drinking any significant amount will make you feel incredibly bad without the disulfiram."

And I think the people nowadays are very toxic and these toxins, heavy metals disrupt vitamin A metabolism in the liver and oxalate metabolism too (many mercury toxic people have problems with oxalates too). It's much bigger than maybe Grant originally thought and I think just a low VA diet may not be enough for some people.

Quote from hillcountry on October 28, 2019, 3:29 am

@bludicka - just want to give you a heads-up on this if you haven't seen it. I ran across the Andy Cutler mercury chelation protocol last week on an ozone forum and did some poking around and decided it made sense to buy the book he wrote with Rebecca Rust Lee (copyright 2019, two years after he passed away). Got it yesterday and couldn't put it down. I had no idea about many of the crucial details they explain, and now regret having done EDTA chelation for my lead toxicity, acquired due to industrial and electronics work; and my half-assed, misinformed attempts to chelate mercury out of my body with different things once I figured out that was more important than getting the lead out. Things are making a lot more sense. I scraped, sanded and painted scores of garages and houses and had no idea until reading this book that they put Phenylmercuric Acetate into both interior and exterior latex paint at rates of 300ppm and 2000ppm respectively, all the way up until 1991. I had no idea how serious it is to try to chelate mercury if there's even a speck or a chip of it left behind after having amalgams removed; even a speck or chip left underneath a crown, which is hard to detect. They describe the devastating effects of mobilizing mercury with Alpha Lipoic Acid, but not dosing at precise times, around the clock, to account for its half-life; and how it will let-go of the mercury, which, if you don't have a lot of fresh ALA incoming to catch it again, is then potentially able to lodge in a more delicate tissue than it was chelated from, like having it go from muscle to brain tissue. They also describe the regression in health they've seen from the use of Cilantro, which no one has identified the active agent of thus far. The fact that mercury toxicity causes many of the same symptoms we're suspecting are due to Retinoic Acid is troubling. Look at the cover of the book on this page of an Andy Cutler website to get a sense of that. -https://noamalgam.com/product/amalgam-illness-diagnosis-and-treatment/ The testimonial page is pretty interesting too.

I have both of Cutler's books, bought in 2010, he was really a genius and no one understood the mechanism of chelation, the whole biochemistry like him. Befor Cutler's protocol I did DMPS IV chelation and I thought I was going to die, too much mercury was mobilized, severe kidney pains... adrenal fatigue started, it took me a few months to get my body stronger and I could start with his protocol. I did his protocol first for 3,5 years a then other heavy metals especially copper began to excrete - it could be seen on the hair analysis and after copper I continuted with his protocol. Today I have no reactions to chelating agents BUT in the last three years I started to have more serious symptoms of VA toxicity and these two - mercury, heavy metals toxicity and VA toxicity, the symptoms are very similar! That's why it was so difficult for me to figure out what was happening to me - I had no idea about oxalates and chronic VA toxicity.

This I have found in his book, page 150, I know this drug from lyme protocols but I was looking for something about ALDH enzymes and mercury:

"Disulfiram (Rx) is used to prevent alcohol abuse. There are two reasons mercury toxic people should not take it. The first is that disulfiram is known to mobilize heavy metals and concentrate them in the brain. The second is that it inhibits the liver enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase and mercury poisoned people already have enough trouble metabolizing things without gratuitously blocking an enzyme. It is likely to already be working poorly enough due to mercury that drinking any significant amount will make you feel incredibly bad without the disulfiram."

And I think the people nowadays are very toxic and these toxins, heavy metals disrupt vitamin A metabolism in the liver and oxalate metabolism too (many mercury toxic people have problems with oxalates too). It's much bigger than maybe Grant originally thought and I think just a low VA diet may not be enough for some people.

#15 · October 28, 2019, 6:56 am

Thomas, I am at 8 months eating low A foods. I don’t often get in situations where the only food has too much vitamin a or beta carotene but if I do I just eat some. I don’t usually notice any major setbacks. But I don’t crave any of those foods and stick with the low A foods daily. I did eat an egg yolk recently and got the return of burning eye for a few days so I will not overdo it anytime soon. If you can, do like Orion suggested and eat plain burgers or steak and potatoes. If you ask for plain (no toppings) 99 cent burgers at McDonald’s , they have to prepare them at that time and they are fresh and warm. At least that is our experience.

Just tell your friends you are a picky eater. Most of us are in some way or another. People who say they eat anything still have food items they won’t touch.

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#16 · October 28, 2019, 7:21 am

When the menu is pizza, I order a "Margherita". You can get it without sauce (sauce is CONCENTRATED tomato and I need to avoid it). But the thinly sliced tomatoes it comes with are fine. It is strewn with fresh basil, olive oil, and a few gobs of real, fresh mozzarella which is expensive and they aren't going to load the thing up like a normal pizza is. IMO this pizza is mostly yummy bread! And is especially good at a brick-oven pizzeria. I salt it well, and I enjoy this cheat meal VERY MUCH! too much!

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#17 · October 28, 2019, 9:36 am

Quote from hillcountry on October 28, 2019, 9:36 am

Quote from bludicka on October 28, 2019, 4:29 am

Quote from hillcountry on October 28, 2019, 3:29 am

@bludicka - just want to give you a heads-up on this if you haven't seen it. I ran across the Andy Cutler mercury chelation protocol last week on an ozone forum and did some poking around and decided it made sense to buy the book he wrote with Rebecca Rust Lee (copyright 2019, two years after he passed away). Got it yesterday and couldn't put it down. I had no idea about many of the crucial details they explain, and now regret having done EDTA chelation for my lead toxicity, acquired due to industrial and electronics work; and my half-assed, misinformed attempts to chelate mercury out of my body with different things once I figured out that was more important than getting the lead out. Things are making a lot more sense. I scraped, sanded and painted scores of garages and houses and had no idea until reading this book that they put Phenylmercuric Acetate into both interior and exterior latex paint at rates of 300ppm and 2000ppm respectively, all the way up until 1991. I had no idea how serious it is to try to chelate mercury if there's even a speck or a chip of it left behind after having amalgams removed; even a speck or chip left underneath a crown, which is hard to detect. They describe the devastating effects of mobilizing mercury with Alpha Lipoic Acid, but not dosing at precise times, around the clock, to account for its half-life; and how it will let-go of the mercury, which, if you don't have a lot of fresh ALA incoming to catch it again, is then potentially able to lodge in a more delicate tissue than it was chelated from, like having it go from muscle to brain tissue. They also describe the regression in health they've seen from the use of Cilantro, which no one has identified the active agent of thus far. The fact that mercury toxicity causes many of the same symptoms we're suspecting are due to Retinoic Acid is troubling. Look at the cover of the book on this page of an Andy Cutler website to get a sense of that. -https://noamalgam.com/product/amalgam-illness-diagnosis-and-treatment/ The testimonial page is pretty interesting too.

I have both of Cutler's books, bought in 2010, he was really a genius and no one understood the mechanism of chelation, the whole biochemistry like him. Befor Cutler's protocol I did DMPS IV chelation and I thought I was going to die, too much mercury was mobilized, severe kidney pains... adrenal fatigue started, it took me a few months to get my body stronger and I could start with his protocol. I did his protocol first for 3,5 years a then other heavy metals especially copper began to excrete - it could be seen on the hair analysis and after copper I continuted with his protocol. Today I have no reactions to chelating agents BUT in the last three years I started to have more serious symptoms of VA toxicity and these two - mercury, heavy metals toxicity and VA toxicity, the symptoms are very similar! That's why it was so difficult for me to figure out what was happening to me - I had no idea about oxalates and chronic VA toxicity.

This I have found in his book, page 150, I know this drug from lyme protocols but I was looking for something about ALDH enzymes and mercury:

"Disulfiram (Rx) is used to prevent alcohol abuse. There are two reasons mercury toxic people should not take it. The first is that disulfiram is known to mobilize heavy metals and concentrate them in the brain. The second is that it inhibits the liver enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase and mercury poisoned people already have enough trouble metabolizing things without gratuitously blocking an enzyme. It is likely to already be working poorly enough due to mercury that drinking any significant amount will make you feel incredibly bad without the disulfiram."

And I think the people nowadays are very toxic and these toxins, heavy metals disrupt vitamin A metabolism in the liver and oxalate metabolism too (many mercury toxic people have problems with oxalates too). It's much bigger than maybe Grant originally thought and I think just a low VA diet may not be enough for some people.

dang, you 'been there, done that' for sure. Glad to hear you got through the chelation part of it. I hope you get past the next thing.

The "crazy ozone lady" in Germany, Paola D., shares some of your path, including the Andy Cutler chelation for almost 4 years. She posted a personal recovery from oxalates using some kind of ozone therapy back in June 2018, and has commented as recently as this month on that page, but no update as yet on specifics (although it looks like she left a clue in the article - the picture with a beaker of ozone water). https://thepowerofozone.com/oxalates-ozone-an-introduction/

Have you encountered her work? Her post of the Andy Cutler protocol is really useful for those of us who have not gone there yet. I'm still reading her articles, but so far they're looking pretty impressive, particularly her critiques of ozone-videos where 90% of the info is spot-on but a few curve-balls get thrown by people who should know better.

I wrote a comment on one of her articles encouraging her to check out Grant's work. That could/should be an important missing-link in her analytical framework. I was thinking how it would really help sort out some of the complication of what's causing what, with all these over-lapping symptoms, seemingly due to these different elements, if there really is a way to use ozone to get rid of oxalate toxicity. Paola seems like a really straight-shooter, so I'm looking forward to her update. Might just "book a session" with her to get the scoop on that part of the equation. Wouldn't it be nice to clear-out oxylate in 3 months?

And now I'm wondering about how oxalates inducing inflammation might be interacting with retinoic acid, in the sense that they could be synergistic. And could ozone therapy be nailing both of them if done properly?

Quote from bludicka on October 28, 2019, 4:29 am

Quote from hillcountry on October 28, 2019, 3:29 am

@bludicka - just want to give you a heads-up on this if you haven't seen it. I ran across the Andy Cutler mercury chelation protocol last week on an ozone forum and did some poking around and decided it made sense to buy the book he wrote with Rebecca Rust Lee (copyright 2019, two years after he passed away). Got it yesterday and couldn't put it down. I had no idea about many of the crucial details they explain, and now regret having done EDTA chelation for my lead toxicity, acquired due to industrial and electronics work; and my half-assed, misinformed attempts to chelate mercury out of my body with different things once I figured out that was more important than getting the lead out. Things are making a lot more sense. I scraped, sanded and painted scores of garages and houses and had no idea until reading this book that they put Phenylmercuric Acetate into both interior and exterior latex paint at rates of 300ppm and 2000ppm respectively, all the way up until 1991. I had no idea how serious it is to try to chelate mercury if there's even a speck or a chip of it left behind after having amalgams removed; even a speck or chip left underneath a crown, which is hard to detect. They describe the devastating effects of mobilizing mercury with Alpha Lipoic Acid, but not dosing at precise times, around the clock, to account for its half-life; and how it will let-go of the mercury, which, if you don't have a lot of fresh ALA incoming to catch it again, is then potentially able to lodge in a more delicate tissue than it was chelated from, like having it go from muscle to brain tissue. They also describe the regression in health they've seen from the use of Cilantro, which no one has identified the active agent of thus far. The fact that mercury toxicity causes many of the same symptoms we're suspecting are due to Retinoic Acid is troubling. Look at the cover of the book on this page of an Andy Cutler website to get a sense of that. -https://noamalgam.com/product/amalgam-illness-diagnosis-and-treatment/ The testimonial page is pretty interesting too.

I have both of Cutler's books, bought in 2010, he was really a genius and no one understood the mechanism of chelation, the whole biochemistry like him. Befor Cutler's protocol I did DMPS IV chelation and I thought I was going to die, too much mercury was mobilized, severe kidney pains... adrenal fatigue started, it took me a few months to get my body stronger and I could start with his protocol. I did his protocol first for 3,5 years a then other heavy metals especially copper began to excrete - it could be seen on the hair analysis and after copper I continuted with his protocol. Today I have no reactions to chelating agents BUT in the last three years I started to have more serious symptoms of VA toxicity and these two - mercury, heavy metals toxicity and VA toxicity, the symptoms are very similar! That's why it was so difficult for me to figure out what was happening to me - I had no idea about oxalates and chronic VA toxicity.

This I have found in his book, page 150, I know this drug from lyme protocols but I was looking for something about ALDH enzymes and mercury:

"Disulfiram (Rx) is used to prevent alcohol abuse. There are two reasons mercury toxic people should not take it. The first is that disulfiram is known to mobilize heavy metals and concentrate them in the brain. The second is that it inhibits the liver enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase and mercury poisoned people already have enough trouble metabolizing things without gratuitously blocking an enzyme. It is likely to already be working poorly enough due to mercury that drinking any significant amount will make you feel incredibly bad without the disulfiram."

And I think the people nowadays are very toxic and these toxins, heavy metals disrupt vitamin A metabolism in the liver and oxalate metabolism too (many mercury toxic people have problems with oxalates too). It's much bigger than maybe Grant originally thought and I think just a low VA diet may not be enough for some people.

dang, you 'been there, done that' for sure. Glad to hear you got through the chelation part of it. I hope you get past the next thing.

The "crazy ozone lady" in Germany, Paola D., shares some of your path, including the Andy Cutler chelation for almost 4 years. She posted a personal recovery from oxalates using some kind of ozone therapy back in June 2018, and has commented as recently as this month on that page, but no update as yet on specifics (although it looks like she left a clue in the article - the picture with a beaker of ozone water). https://thepowerofozone.com/oxalates-ozone-an-introduction/

Have you encountered her work? Her post of the Andy Cutler protocol is really useful for those of us who have not gone there yet. I'm still reading her articles, but so far they're looking pretty impressive, particularly her critiques of ozone-videos where 90% of the info is spot-on but a few curve-balls get thrown by people who should know better.

I wrote a comment on one of her articles encouraging her to check out Grant's work. That could/should be an important missing-link in her analytical framework. I was thinking how it would really help sort out some of the complication of what's causing what, with all these over-lapping symptoms, seemingly due to these different elements, if there really is a way to use ozone to get rid of oxalate toxicity. Paola seems like a really straight-shooter, so I'm looking forward to her update. Might just "book a session" with her to get the scoop on that part of the equation. Wouldn't it be nice to clear-out oxylate in 3 months?

And now I'm wondering about how oxalates inducing inflammation might be interacting with retinoic acid, in the sense that they could be synergistic. And could ozone therapy be nailing both of them if done properly?

#18 · October 28, 2019, 9:45 am

found this "Oxalate Content of Food" pdf that looks useful

http://www.urinarystones.info/resources/Docs/Oxalate-content-of-food-2008.pdf

#19 · October 28, 2019, 1:51 pm

" Wouldn't it be nice to clear-out oxylate in 3 months?"

....it would be but I think it is not possible. Every toxin when comes out of the body is toxic - for liver, kidneys, adrenals and the principle of Cutler chelation is controlled toxin excretion with minimal side effects for the body, the same with oxalates.

And these various toxins as heavy metals, mercury, oxalates... they form complexes+infections and biofilms and the detox is more like peeling the onion and every layer of the onion contains something else. Thats why different methods are helpful - I did for the infections and biofilms Buhner herbal protocols (maybe something similar can do the ozone). The worst is the mercury and when the mercury is out, things start to move and the body can then recover the self-healing mechanisms more effectively. But Cutler was wrong about oxalates, the ozone lady is right. Oxalates are a real problem for mercury toxic people.

Here is a good info about Cutler chelation:
https://www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/chelation-the-andy-cutler-protocol/

#20 · October 29, 2019, 7:29 am

Excellent link, thank you!!

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