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lil chick on November 3, 2024, 7:05 am
I'm sorry you are going through this, @john. Jiri, your theory makes a lot of sense to me, that perhaps a person's metal load is making them more susceptible to currents.
John, have you ever studied the "electric universe" theories? I'm certainly not an expert, but I always thought that there was a smack of truth about these theories. And what they say is that EVERYTHING is electric. And so maybe there is no where to run.
Like Jiri says, there is probably something fixable instead that you can do. Because life arose in this electric universe and living things are probably supposed to be able to manage the challenges of currents around them.
Does lithium have to do with all of this? It's another metal that has been talked about on this site.
I've considered myself MCS, and feel that I'm working my way toward the other side with it. I've never understood how MCS people could deal with living in things like cars, campers, vans, tents, porches. The vinyl off-gassing and mustyness and exhaust fumes and gas fumes and etc seem pretty bad. We thought about buying a camper for fun but every time I walked into one, or tried camping, I felt crappy. I suppose the fresh air of camping or not being indoors all the time is good though. I'm not saying houses are perfect. I'm trying to cut down on all plastic and vinyl in mine. I really like my wood and tile floors, and my wool rugs. I hope to soon buy a wool mattress. Of course even living in a teepee made of bark is going to have mold and dust and etc. I think my home is probably better for me than a teepee!
I don't understand why you would want to stay in the city, gosh, the country appeals to me so much more when it comes to getting away from everything. Sometimes I work in the city (very rare now) but on driving home as soon as the trees start lining the streets around me I feel better.
I've gone through all sorts of ideas of why I have MCS (besides VA toxicity), one idea, for instance, is that I'm allergic to PPD, which cross-reacts with basically everything. Anything around you that is colored/dyed, or comes from petroleum products, or has rubber in it...see below at **. I once was tested by a hair dresser and she found that I was allergic to dye. But this was just on seeing a red 'histamine" reaction in the skin. And I KNOW I have histamine reactions that are overblown. Maybe what has to happen for the MCS is just: the histamine reactions need to come down out of the stratosphere. I've heard vitamin C is good for this (from food, maybe not supps?), and obviously I think low-VA helps this over time. I also believe in treating oneself very gently. Histamine causes you to rub and scratch which causes more histamine, which causes more rubbing and scratching etc. Hot showers may not be smart. Cleaning might have to be done in a smart way. (early in the day? Use a vacuum robot? trade cleaning duties for some other duty?). Again, like Jiri says, we are supposed to be able to handle these things and the point is someday we may not need to be this vigilant about mold, dust, pollen or even PPD.
Sometimes we become opposed to the very thing that would probably help us. My son was sweet enough to buy me a robot vac for Christmas, and it sits unused and instead I get myself all histamined-out on cleaning day. Why do I do that to myself?
Factoid: my husband (who who has VA toxicity symptoms and lots of mercury fillings) has worked in a literal electronic mega bath every day of his life for 40 years with no apparent issues. (he is a microwave engineer).
** From the web, and I've seen even longer lists:
"Paraphenylenediamine (PPD) can cross-react with many substances, including:
- Local anesthetics: Ester-type local anesthetics, such as benzocaine, procaine, and tetracaine
- Azo dyes: Used in textiles, ballpoint pen ink, gasoline, diesel oil, and as a food and medication coloring agent
- Sunscreen components: PABA and padimate O
- Medications: Thiazide diuretics, sulfonylurea antidiabetics, and the COX-2 inhibitor celecoxib
- Rubber: N-isopropyl-N'-phenyl-p-phenylenediamine is a cross-reactant with rubber
- Disperse dyes: Disperse orange 3 is a cross-reactant with PPD
- Other hair dyes: PPD may cross-react with other para-substituted hair dyes, such as toluene-2,5-diamine and p-aminophenol
PPD is a strong sensitizer that can cause allergic contact dermatitis.Symptoms of a PPD reaction include:
Redness, Swelling, Blistering, Dryness, Thickening, Cracking, and Burning or stinging sensation.
Symptoms usually appear within 48 hours, but strong irritants can cause an immediate reaction. "
I'm sorry you are going through this, @john. Jiri, your theory makes a lot of sense to me, that perhaps a person's metal load is making them more susceptible to currents.
John, have you ever studied the "electric universe" theories? I'm certainly not an expert, but I always thought that there was a smack of truth about these theories. And what they say is that EVERYTHING is electric. And so maybe there is no where to run.
Like Jiri says, there is probably something fixable instead that you can do. Because life arose in this electric universe and living things are probably supposed to be able to manage the challenges of currents around them.
Does lithium have to do with all of this? It's another metal that has been talked about on this site.
I've considered myself MCS, and feel that I'm working my way toward the other side with it. I've never understood how MCS people could deal with living in things like cars, campers, vans, tents, porches. The vinyl off-gassing and mustyness and exhaust fumes and gas fumes and etc seem pretty bad. We thought about buying a camper for fun but every time I walked into one, or tried camping, I felt crappy. I suppose the fresh air of camping or not being indoors all the time is good though. I'm not saying houses are perfect. I'm trying to cut down on all plastic and vinyl in mine. I really like my wood and tile floors, and my wool rugs. I hope to soon buy a wool mattress. Of course even living in a teepee made of bark is going to have mold and dust and etc. I think my home is probably better for me than a teepee!
I don't understand why you would want to stay in the city, gosh, the country appeals to me so much more when it comes to getting away from everything. Sometimes I work in the city (very rare now) but on driving home as soon as the trees start lining the streets around me I feel better.
I've gone through all sorts of ideas of why I have MCS (besides VA toxicity), one idea, for instance, is that I'm allergic to PPD, which cross-reacts with basically everything. Anything around you that is colored/dyed, or comes from petroleum products, or has rubber in it...see below at **. I once was tested by a hair dresser and she found that I was allergic to dye. But this was just on seeing a red 'histamine" reaction in the skin. And I KNOW I have histamine reactions that are overblown. Maybe what has to happen for the MCS is just: the histamine reactions need to come down out of the stratosphere. I've heard vitamin C is good for this (from food, maybe not supps?), and obviously I think low-VA helps this over time. I also believe in treating oneself very gently. Histamine causes you to rub and scratch which causes more histamine, which causes more rubbing and scratching etc. Hot showers may not be smart. Cleaning might have to be done in a smart way. (early in the day? Use a vacuum robot? trade cleaning duties for some other duty?). Again, like Jiri says, we are supposed to be able to handle these things and the point is someday we may not need to be this vigilant about mold, dust, pollen or even PPD.
Sometimes we become opposed to the very thing that would probably help us. My son was sweet enough to buy me a robot vac for Christmas, and it sits unused and instead I get myself all histamined-out on cleaning day. Why do I do that to myself?
Factoid: my husband (who who has VA toxicity symptoms and lots of mercury fillings) has worked in a literal electronic mega bath every day of his life for 40 years with no apparent issues. (he is a microwave engineer).
** From the web, and I've seen even longer lists:
"Paraphenylenediamine (PPD) can cross-react with many substances, including:
- Local anesthetics: Ester-type local anesthetics, such as benzocaine, procaine, and tetracaine
- Azo dyes: Used in textiles, ballpoint pen ink, gasoline, diesel oil, and as a food and medication coloring agent
- Sunscreen components: PABA and padimate O
- Medications: Thiazide diuretics, sulfonylurea antidiabetics, and the COX-2 inhibitor celecoxib
- Rubber: N-isopropyl-N'-phenyl-p-phenylenediamine is a cross-reactant with rubber
- Disperse dyes: Disperse orange 3 is a cross-reactant with PPD
- Other hair dyes: PPD may cross-react with other para-substituted hair dyes, such as toluene-2,5-diamine and p-aminophenol
PPD is a strong sensitizer that can cause allergic contact dermatitis.Symptoms of a PPD reaction include:
Redness, Swelling, Blistering, Dryness, Thickening, Cracking, and Burning or stinging sensation.
Symptoms usually appear within 48 hours, but strong irritants can cause an immediate reaction. "
