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This guys cured himself and others from eczema
Quote from Alex on February 21, 2024, 6:38 amExactly with his diet he is demonstrating how Vitamin A is helpful for skin health and maintenance.
"sHuTtInG DoWN DeToX and StOrInG PoIsON iN thE LiVeR!!!" - I'm tired of this theory tbh. Vitamin A toxicity gets blamed for everything... It's so one dimensional and obviously there are many other causes and factors behind people's health issues and diseases.
Exactly with his diet he is demonstrating how Vitamin A is helpful for skin health and maintenance.
"sHuTtInG DoWN DeToX and StOrInG PoIsON iN thE LiVeR!!!" - I'm tired of this theory tbh. Vitamin A toxicity gets blamed for everything... It's so one dimensional and obviously there are many other causes and factors behind people's health issues and diseases.
Quote from lil chick on February 21, 2024, 7:05 amI totally get what you guys are saying, and yet I really do believe that VA toxicity is a thing. In fact, I think I probably started being VA toxic in 7th grade, when I had my first migraine. And I ramped up to an even higher level when I met the WAPF around age 40, but still I think some of the other things that WAPF stands for probably helped mitigate the higher VA intake.
So I do believe there are other ways into the vicious cycle besides the prison food diet.
I think I would be dead if I wasn't actually doing some of them all this time, before reading Grant's ideas.
I totally get what you guys are saying, and yet I really do believe that VA toxicity is a thing. In fact, I think I probably started being VA toxic in 7th grade, when I had my first migraine. And I ramped up to an even higher level when I met the WAPF around age 40, but still I think some of the other things that WAPF stands for probably helped mitigate the higher VA intake.
So I do believe there are other ways into the vicious cycle besides the prison food diet.
I think I would be dead if I wasn't actually doing some of them all this time, before reading Grant's ideas.
Quote from Alex on February 21, 2024, 8:48 am@lil-chick No one is saying Vitamin A toxicity isn't a thing, what I'm saying is it isn't the only cause of everything. And some of the current theories people believe around Vitamin A toxicity need to be challenged. EG: People assuming the reason they have issues with Vitamin A is because Vitamin A is a toxin rather than it being an issue with the metabolism Vitamin A that has led to a toxic build up.
@lil-chick No one is saying Vitamin A toxicity isn't a thing, what I'm saying is it isn't the only cause of everything. And some of the current theories people believe around Vitamin A toxicity need to be challenged. EG: People assuming the reason they have issues with Vitamin A is because Vitamin A is a toxin rather than it being an issue with the metabolism Vitamin A that has led to a toxic build up.
Quote from Janelle525 on February 21, 2024, 10:29 amUnfortunately vitamin A is very much a duration paradox. It really can look good in the short term. Like really good. But then all the symptoms come back in the end. I don't know why I forgot this when seeing this guy's diet. It's clear it's duration paradox. The only time my skin rash cleared was when I was using large amounts of vitamin A. I didn't want to continue that so it came back with a vengeance. How could I have become deficient in a matter of days? It is finally clearing now on the low vitamin a detox diet. And I didn't have to shove more in my liver to do it.
Unfortunately vitamin A is very much a duration paradox. It really can look good in the short term. Like really good. But then all the symptoms come back in the end. I don't know why I forgot this when seeing this guy's diet. It's clear it's duration paradox. The only time my skin rash cleared was when I was using large amounts of vitamin A. I didn't want to continue that so it came back with a vengeance. How could I have become deficient in a matter of days? It is finally clearing now on the low vitamin a detox diet. And I didn't have to shove more in my liver to do it.
Quote from Alex on February 21, 2024, 1:25 pm@janelle525 Or perhaps the Vitamin A was indeed effective in clearing your skin. Why must it be solely attributed to a duration paradox? Your assertion sounds definitive, but is it not possible that other factors were at play?
Dry skin, etc., is caused by hypothyroidism. Sure, if you overdose with huge amounts of Vitamin A—i.e., more than your system can handle—then you can go into a hypothyroid state and have skin problems. Also, have you not thought that going on a low Vit A diet, which improves bile and then your thyroid, means that now your thyroid is actually working properly to use that Vitamin A correctly? ALDH and ADH enzymes are active when the thyroid is functioning properly. When you experienced skin problems previously, it's likely that your vitamin A metabolism was impaired, leading to a functional deficiency. This impairment could have caused a buildup of vitamin A at a certain stage of metabolism, contributing to excess accumulation.
There are also individuals who consume large amounts of Vitamin A throughout their lives without experiencing any health problems. Where is their duration paradox? Well, they likely don't have one because they possess a healthy and proper metabolism that ensures Vitamin A is used and metabolized correctly.
However, issues with Vitamin A arise when factors such as glyphosate consumption, pathogen infections that slow down ALDH and ADH enzymes, intake of drugs or supplements that hinder bile production, exposure to heavy metal or chemical toxicity that inhibits ALDH and ADH enzymes, a high refined sugar diet which lowers metabolism and slows down Vitamin A enzymes. Conditions such as fatty liver or hypothyroidism can exacerbate these issues also leading to complications with Vitamin A metabolism and toxicity.
@janelle525 Or perhaps the Vitamin A was indeed effective in clearing your skin. Why must it be solely attributed to a duration paradox? Your assertion sounds definitive, but is it not possible that other factors were at play?
Dry skin, etc., is caused by hypothyroidism. Sure, if you overdose with huge amounts of Vitamin A—i.e., more than your system can handle—then you can go into a hypothyroid state and have skin problems. Also, have you not thought that going on a low Vit A diet, which improves bile and then your thyroid, means that now your thyroid is actually working properly to use that Vitamin A correctly? ALDH and ADH enzymes are active when the thyroid is functioning properly. When you experienced skin problems previously, it's likely that your vitamin A metabolism was impaired, leading to a functional deficiency. This impairment could have caused a buildup of vitamin A at a certain stage of metabolism, contributing to excess accumulation.
Impaired Vitamin A Metabolism, Retinoic Acid Deficiency, and Neurological Decline.
There are also individuals who consume large amounts of Vitamin A throughout their lives without experiencing any health problems. Where is their duration paradox? Well, they likely don't have one because they possess a healthy and proper metabolism that ensures Vitamin A is used and metabolized correctly.
However, issues with Vitamin A arise when factors such as glyphosate consumption, pathogen infections that slow down ALDH and ADH enzymes, intake of drugs or supplements that hinder bile production, exposure to heavy metal or chemical toxicity that inhibits ALDH and ADH enzymes, a high refined sugar diet which lowers metabolism and slows down Vitamin A enzymes. Conditions such as fatty liver or hypothyroidism can exacerbate these issues also leading to complications with Vitamin A metabolism and toxicity.
Quote from Janelle525 on February 21, 2024, 3:21 pm@alexm I didn't have dry skin, in fact it was probably more oily as I would get some acne like on my back and stuff. This was a severely itchy peely buttcrack rash that never cleared using any antifungal. If it was functional vitamin A deficiency I didn't have any other symptoms of a functional deficiency. I have been quite well in the years I've had this rash. It may be fungal I don't know. I've had patches pop up elsewhere too. It is finally going away.
@alexm I didn't have dry skin, in fact it was probably more oily as I would get some acne like on my back and stuff. This was a severely itchy peely buttcrack rash that never cleared using any antifungal. If it was functional vitamin A deficiency I didn't have any other symptoms of a functional deficiency. I have been quite well in the years I've had this rash. It may be fungal I don't know. I've had patches pop up elsewhere too. It is finally going away.
Quote from lil chick on February 21, 2024, 3:38 pmQuote from AlexM on February 21, 2024, 1:25 pmThere are also individuals who consume large amounts of Vitamin A throughout their lives without experiencing any health problems. Where is their duration paradox?
I'm not sure I know anyone like this. Are these people all the overweight people I see?
When I think of everyone I know of my age (60) they mostly fall into two categories. Thin, but have problems with auto-immunity and mysterious illness. Or heavy. Both sides seem to have the same issues with creeping diabetes and circulatory issues and sore joints and cancer.
Quote from AlexM on February 21, 2024, 1:25 pmThere are also individuals who consume large amounts of Vitamin A throughout their lives without experiencing any health problems. Where is their duration paradox?
I'm not sure I know anyone like this. Are these people all the overweight people I see?
When I think of everyone I know of my age (60) they mostly fall into two categories. Thin, but have problems with auto-immunity and mysterious illness. Or heavy. Both sides seem to have the same issues with creeping diabetes and circulatory issues and sore joints and cancer.
Quote from lil chick on February 21, 2024, 4:10 pmWell, I'm not saying people need to be afraid of the occasional carrot, I mean, I think it is just part of life on Earth. I'm not a prison-food dieter. I eat only a moderately low VA diet.
I just think that VA isn't designed to help us humans. It's designed to help plants. It might work as an antibiotic, just as other plant toxins do. But that isn't a nutritive benefit.
I think the reason we are all here is that we are inspired by the story of a guy that hit "old age problems" much too early. And he has gone about clearing them up in an unusual way, by realizing that certain pigments in plants might not be so good for us.
Of course, there is no way to entirely avoid old age problems. And as I always say, all toxins matter.
Now, as a health-nut homesteader my whole life.... you'd think I'd be immune to at least a bit of the list you state. But I started off pretty young with the migraines... I began gardening (tomatoes, beans) around age 9, and had migraines by 12.... I sort of think my mother was already VA toxic when she had us kids.
Well, I'm not saying people need to be afraid of the occasional carrot, I mean, I think it is just part of life on Earth. I'm not a prison-food dieter. I eat only a moderately low VA diet.
I just think that VA isn't designed to help us humans. It's designed to help plants. It might work as an antibiotic, just as other plant toxins do. But that isn't a nutritive benefit.
I think the reason we are all here is that we are inspired by the story of a guy that hit "old age problems" much too early. And he has gone about clearing them up in an unusual way, by realizing that certain pigments in plants might not be so good for us.
Of course, there is no way to entirely avoid old age problems. And as I always say, all toxins matter.
Now, as a health-nut homesteader my whole life.... you'd think I'd be immune to at least a bit of the list you state. But I started off pretty young with the migraines... I began gardening (tomatoes, beans) around age 9, and had migraines by 12.... I sort of think my mother was already VA toxic when she had us kids.
Quote from lil chick on February 21, 2024, 4:18 pmI've been wanting to mention, since the discussion of whether it's fine to be temporarily colored orange from food pigments....
I wonder if acanthosis nigricans could be leftovers of pigments that never did end up leaving the body. It is associated with diabetes. Old people also just get covered with age spots.
I've been wanting to mention, since the discussion of whether it's fine to be temporarily colored orange from food pigments....
I wonder if acanthosis nigricans could be leftovers of pigments that never did end up leaving the body. It is associated with diabetes. Old people also just get covered with age spots.

