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This guys cured himself and others from eczema
Quote from salt on August 2, 2019, 2:24 pmQuote from who_am_i on August 2, 2019, 5:56 amI have thought a lot about Rob Stuart and how his recovery fits into the VA theory as I used to follow him a few years back (without success btw).
I think he basically healed his eczema by following the starch solution promoted by Dr. McDougall, i.e. a lot of grains and potatoes with beans/lentils for protein. Starches and legumes are very low in carotenoids. Then he also did a lot of water fasting which depletes VA even faster. Although he used to promote vegetables I think his intake of colourful greens must have been on the lower end, otherwise I am sure he would not have healed.
It's true that he did a lot of fruit juicing and mono fruit fasting, which tells me that some fruits probably do have a certain capacity to help with detox even if they come with a certain amount of beta-carotene.
And don't forget that he promotes coffee enemas and liver flushing, pretty sure he emptied his retinol storage a lot by doing them.
Grains and legumes aren't really very low in carotenoids. Only a few of them are very low. Just about all whole grain products have at least 100 mcg lutein + zeaxanthin. Must legumes have plenty too, the only exception being the black beans and white beans (not yellow beans).
@salt, have you found any whole grain products with zero lutein or zeaxanthin? What about rice(white/brown) or whole wheat durum or semolina flour?
Quote from joshz on August 10, 2020, 12:34 pmQuote from salt on August 2, 2019, 2:24 pmQuote from who_am_i on August 2, 2019, 5:56 amI have thought a lot about Rob Stuart and how his recovery fits into the VA theory as I used to follow him a few years back (without success btw).
I think he basically healed his eczema by following the starch solution promoted by Dr. McDougall, i.e. a lot of grains and potatoes with beans/lentils for protein. Starches and legumes are very low in carotenoids. Then he also did a lot of water fasting which depletes VA even faster. Although he used to promote vegetables I think his intake of colourful greens must have been on the lower end, otherwise I am sure he would not have healed.
It's true that he did a lot of fruit juicing and mono fruit fasting, which tells me that some fruits probably do have a certain capacity to help with detox even if they come with a certain amount of beta-carotene.
And don't forget that he promotes coffee enemas and liver flushing, pretty sure he emptied his retinol storage a lot by doing them.
Grains and legumes aren't really very low in carotenoids. Only a few of them are very low. Just about all whole grain products have at least 100 mcg lutein + zeaxanthin. Must legumes have plenty too, the only exception being the black beans and white beans (not yellow beans).
@salt, have you found any whole grain products with zero lutein or zeaxanthin? What about rice(white/brown) or whole wheat durum or semolina flour?
Rice and white corn are near zero, even the whole grains. Brown rice has a tiny bit more than white rice but still extremely small amounts, I don't think the difference is significant.
Durum wheat has significant levels of carotenoids, it's what makes it yellow instead of white. Durum wheat (whole or refined) and whole white wheat have significant levels of carotenoids. I think pasta is not appropriate, it's better to eat some other kind of white wheat noodle like those found in asian cuisine.
White potatoes, cassava, and refined white wheat are some additional near zero carotenoid starch sources. Probably some other refined grain products are also near zero, the whiter the product is the less carotenoids are in it. Most of the carotenoids are in those parts that are removed during the refining process.
Compare the whole wheat flour with the refined wheat flour, the colour is gone, the carotenoids are gone.
Semolina is a bit of a confusing term to me, it seems to mean different things in different places and it seems to be applied to various different types of grains as well. If it's very white it doesn't have carotenoids, but if it's yellow it does have carotenoids.
I recently stumbled onto one of his videos where he talked about using activated charcoal to cure his excema.
It's interesting to me that Rob Stuart went from one extreme to another, and is now on a mega-choline diet, even higher than what @andrew-b did for a while. Andrew, you were at 800 mg, right? Rob is now at 1400+ mg. Did he run into a choline deficiency I wonder?
But he eats barely any fiber or folate... 😬
I could see how he'd feel amazing on this diet if he were an undermethylator, though, considering how much b12 it provides. An interesting case study...I expect his diet will keep evolving.
Please note: I've changed the targets for some of these nutrients (including vitamin A) to my preferences in chronometer and didn't feel like adjusting them back for the screenshots, so they don't reflect the RDA.
Hey, that was a really interesting video, and his skin is *so much better* than before.
I have recently come out in peeling skin exactly where that red arrow points, when I went off of alcohol. I figure I'm detoxing or that perhaps my flora is changing. I'm not worried.
He and I have matching forehead area of issues. Like him, my nose has gone down in inflammation. However, I'm not as healed as he is, overall.
His diet looks yummy to me, and it's interesting to me that he also feels, as I do, that raw milk is helpful to him.
I was thinking about when people flip their diets over to something new, at least they are not poisoning themselves in the same exact way they have been for the last x years. If they are lucky, none of the poisons match up. They may still get into some new poisons, but it might take a little while before those poisons catch up with them.
In the same vein, when you flip your diet you might unknowingly have had a deficit of x, and now you are fulfilling x. Of course, over time you might end up low in y, (which your old diet had). But it will take a while to know.
I guess it is the honeymoon period.
Of course some of healing isn't about diet, and Grant does a great job with those things too, such as exercise and not drinking. I wonder what all else this guy does.
What is truly gold is to find ways of life that work over generations, I guess that was what Price was looking for. He wasn't wrong in looking for that, and actually he did find some things out. Maybe now we can look back at Price's work with discernment and find some nuggets there.
Oh my gosh I nearly puked at the thought of 6 poached eggs. 🤢
Yeah sounds like he got his methylation going and eliminated whatever was growing in his gut that causes the toxins to spilled out through the skin, or caused whatever was living on his skin to die.
Quote from puddleduck on February 19, 2024, 8:19 am
Well according to Grant and Garret this guys diet is full of toxic A and he should have health issues, but it's the opposite he has reversed his health issues with this diet