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How did he heal his skin disease then if grains and legumes are that bad? Truth is they are not and this guy proved it. 

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@who_am_i Why must it always be black or white? Whole grains and legumes can be bad news with certain gut conditions. It's up to the individual to determine if they can be a part of its diet.

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At first rob stuart said he cured himself and others but whole plant based diet,fasting and cleansing he said dont take meat coz its hard to digest it make slow healing and eczema flare ups but now he s saying most of his client healed my even with meat it makes me confusing.....

Mostly people says no to carbs coz candida feed from carbs but REAL TRUTH  is candida increases coz of high fat when one(with eczema or dermatitis) eat high fat with carbs body try to digest fat first and carbs cannot be digest well here comes candida(usually present in all healthy humans) it starts to eat carbs and it get populated so medical science saying its candida yeast so stop taking carbs......carbs is not real culprit we can know that from Genereux diet he take white rice(carbs) but he got healed so candida and carbs myth got busted.......

Now my question is genereux got healed with diet includes of enough white rice(carbs)red meat, and olive oil(fat) without fasting and cleansing same disease was cured by rob stuart by whole food diet including vit A foods like carrot and with low fat including lot of cleansing and fasting

how this both healing occurs?wat makes one to get heal form this eczema and dermatitis?????

Hi @Turiya

Your question raises an important topic. This is not a debate about entire food groups being good or bad. Rather it’s about molecules and what those molecules can do to the human tissues.

Far too many people are trying to blame an entire food group for causing a disease. The vegans are trying to blame ALL animal sourced foods. The new carnivore diet crowd want to blame plant-based foods.

We need to stop thinking like that. When the digestive system processes and consumes a food, it does not know, and does not care if the molecules in that food came from an animal or a plant source. But, there are some very important basics that must be provided for. Probably the most important are the essential amino acids (the building blocks of protein). The thing is that the essential amino acids are, well, essential. Next up are the fats. So the carnivore diet crowd wins on these two. But, I think glucose is important too.

Except, the most important point is that we don’t want to digest any molecules that could be harmful to us. Therefore, if people adopt a simple diet that provides the essential proteins and fats, and excludes all POSSIBLE toxins, then there is a high probability that they will recover their health. Glucose could provide the needed energy. We have to stop thinking in terms of entire food groups, and get down to the next level of knowing what molecules are harmful and healthy to us.

Like with Rob Stuart, there’s another popular vegan Youtuber. I think his name is Casey, and goes by the moniker of “Vegetable Police”. He was vegan for about 10 years, and was continuing to struggle with his health. Last year he decided to adopt the carnivore diet and he experienced a big improvement in his health. But, then he started to include liver as part of the carnivore diet and a few months after that his health severely crashed. He’s wrongly blamed the carnivore diet for that crash, and has gone back to being a vegan.

Grant

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Quote from ggenereux on August 3, 2019, 6:26 am

Hi @Turiya

Your question raises an important topic. This is not a debate about entire food groups being good or bad. Rather it’s about molecules and what those molecules can do to the human tissues.

Far too many people are trying to blame an entire food group for causing a disease. The vegans are trying to blame ALL animal sourced foods. The new carnivore diet crowd want to blame plant-based foods.

We need to stop thinking like that. When the digestive system processes and consumes a food, it does not know, and does not care if the molecules in that food came from an animal or a plant source. But, there are some very importing basics that must be provided for. Probably the most important are the essential amino acids (the building blocks of protein). The thing is that the essential amino acids are, well, essential. Next up are the fats. So the carnivore diet crowd wins on these two. But, I think glucose is important too.

Except, the most important point is that we don’t want to digest any molecules that could be harmful to us. Therefore, if people adopt a simple diet that provides the essential proteins and fats, and excludes all POSSIBLE toxins, then there is a high probability that they will recover their health. Glucose could provide the needed energy. We have to stop thinking in terms of entire food groups, and get down to the next level of knowing what molecules are harmful and healthy to us.

Like with Rob Stuart, there’s another popular vegan Youtuber. I think his name is Casey, and goes by the moniker of “Vegetable Police”. He was vegan for about 10 years, and was continuing to struggle with his health. Last year he decided to adopt the carnivore diet and he experienced a big improvement in his health. But, then he started to include liver as part of the carnivore diet and a few months after that his health severely crashed. He’s wrongly blamed the carnivore diet for that crash, and has gone back to being a vegan.

Grant

Really thanks for your reply grant and i raises this topic is to heal myself from dermatitis.....yes i agree with u here coz some people like casey as u said they blame on vegan and carnivore without knowing really mystery behind why they got sick why some diet not working for them this where i agree with your whole theory and i am following it now but my research is to how to make this healing to work fast with combining your theory?!

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This video was uploaded a few months before he ditched his vegan diet and switched to meat eating. Seems like at the end he really went overboard with carotenoids and fell for the vegan dogma of colourful plants being healthy. Probably the reason he suffered digestive problems and teeth issues again, hope he doesn't indulge too much into liver on his new carnivore lifestyle...

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Quote from ggenereux on August 3, 2019, 6:26 am

Hi @Turiya

Your question raises an important topic. This is not a debate about entire food groups being good or bad. Rather it’s about molecules and what those molecules can do to the human tissues.

Far too many people are trying to blame an entire food group for causing a disease. The vegans are trying to blame ALL animal sourced foods. The new carnivore diet crowd want to blame plant-based foods.

We need to stop thinking like that. When the digestive system processes and consumes a food, it does not know, and does not care if the molecules in that food came from an animal or a plant source. But, there are some very important basics that must be provided for. Probably the most important are the essential amino acids (the building blocks of protein). The thing is that the essential amino acids are, well, essential. Next up are the fats. So the carnivore diet crowd wins on these two. But, I think glucose is important too.

Except, the most important point is that we don’t want to digest any molecules that could be harmful to us. Therefore, if people adopt a simple diet that provides the essential proteins and fats, and excludes all POSSIBLE toxins, then there is a high probability that they will recover their health. Glucose could provide the needed energy. We have to stop thinking in terms of entire food groups, and get down to the next level of knowing what molecules are harmful and healthy to us.

Like with Rob Stuart, there’s another popular vegan Youtuber. I think his name is Casey, and goes by the moniker of “Vegetable Police”. He was vegan for about 10 years, and was continuing to struggle with his health. Last year he decided to adopt the carnivore diet and he experienced a big improvement in his health. But, then he started to include liver as part of the carnivore diet and a few months after that his health severely crashed. He’s wrongly blamed the carnivore diet for that crash, and has gone back to being a vegan.

Grant

Probably true, that. Having gotten into this mess from being long term vegan (with lots of veg) when I was undoubtedly already VA toxic. Developed severe tinnitus as a vegan. Thought it was lack of protein or B12 so went off it.   When the autoimmune disease I have started, a year, later I blamed the meat.  Far more likely the soups we were having- beans with collards, kale, carrots,sweet potato.   Even the pests in my garden wont touch the greens.    I have read there are super taster vegans doing OK who don't touch greens.   Its the excess that gets you into trouble whether its liver, organ meat, dairy or green smoothies. And once the trouble starts its a long trip out, seems it would be tough to do as a vegan.     

 

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@saraleah11 like your phrase - it’s the excess that gets you into trouble 😀 I totally agree. After 3 years of nutrition school I came to the conclusion that moderation, non-processed, organic & seasonal were the keys to healthy eating. Not the OTT on ‘super’ foods. It’s nuts. They taught the more veg you can get into your diet the better. I increasingly think the world has gone crazy in so many ways & the veg obsession is just another way. I didn’t eat any veg until I was about 16 - well maybe a stick of celery here & there. I was a very healthy child. Not saying my childhood diet was a perfect diet but I didn’t get poisoned with too many carotenoids & oxalates at least.

I have lots of lovely well meaning nutritional therapist friends who are recommending diets I wouldn’t personally eat with my new knowledge. It worries me. It also alienates me from my friends. They think I’ve lost the plot. Or maybe they suspect I’m right but it goes against everything they’ve been taught so makes them very uncomfortable & they also have a living to make. If people have paid for ‘experts’ to teach them, they have worked very hard & gained a qualification they tend to feel their knowledge is correct & set in stone, particularly younger people. I’m older & went through the revolution in genetics while working in the field. Knowledge & facts are just the best explanations at the time in history you find yourself. Many will be wrong. This is an important concept. 

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The late Dr. Ron believed (and wrote about it before he died) that it was his extremism regarding cod liver oil that sped his trip to the grave.  He also said that Weston Price only ever suggested tiny doses of cod liver oil. 

https://www.drrons.com/product-blog/Too-Much-of-a-NOT-so-Good-Thing

I think many got it into their minds that fermented CLO was even worse than CLO.  That may be the case.  But CLO is bad enough already.

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Quote from salt on August 2, 2019, 2:24 pm
Quote from who_am_i on August 2, 2019, 5:56 am

I have thought a lot about Rob Stuart and how his recovery fits into the VA theory as I used to follow him a few years back (without success btw). 

I think he basically healed his eczema by following the starch solution promoted by Dr. McDougall, i.e. a lot of grains and potatoes with beans/lentils for protein. Starches and legumes are very low in carotenoids. Then he also did a lot of water fasting which depletes VA even faster. Although he used to promote vegetables I think  his intake of colourful greens must have been on the lower end, otherwise I am sure he would not have healed. 

It's true that he did a lot of fruit juicing and mono fruit fasting, which tells me that some fruits probably do have a certain capacity to help with detox even if they come with a certain amount of beta-carotene.

And don't forget that he promotes coffee enemas and liver flushing, pretty sure he emptied his retinol storage a lot by doing them.

Grains and legumes aren't really very low in carotenoids. Only a few of them are very low. Just about all whole grain products have at least 100 mcg lutein + zeaxanthin. Must legumes have plenty too, the only exception being the black beans and white beans (not yellow beans).

Soluble fiber can limit the absorption of beta carotene, so the beans and grains have the extra fiber content in their favour:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30920145/

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