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Tinnitus, dry eyes, and nightmares
When I took a multivitamin last year, I had terrible tinnitus and dry eyes. When I eat Costco eggs, I get dry eyes almost instantly. More natural eggs give me dry eyes, but I have to eat a lot more and it takes longer.
Tinnitus has once decreased when I was eating beef and rice consistently. Honestly, my diet is inconsistent because of SIBO so I can’t say for sure, but I think tinnitus and dry eyes are highly specific indicators for me.
Regarding nightmares and suicidal/mental problems—I had an urge to jump off of my apartment conplex this morning. It went away but I knew it was not me and I was so scared about doing it. I don’t know if mental issues are a sign of detox, but I feel like they might be.
@christian I live in twelfth floor and I had this "I can just jump and it is all over" sooo many times.. But what is even more scary I had many nightmares where my parents father jumping (because his body and mind was/is not in a best shape and he also even said many times stupid stuff like "I would rather jump out of the window" etc..) and my mother falling out of the window(because she is cleaning windows etc..) also many times. Often I would wake up almost crying that my mother is lying dead outside... Living in heights has that potential danger where you can act impulsive and end it all very easily. Same way like when you have guns. It is so easy to just pull the trigger..
Wow, that's a scary dream you shared. I can't imagine losing my parents just yet. And the fact that you've had similar impulses to @jzuc37 and myself makes me think there's a pattern emerging, perhaps vitamin A toxicity is involved in such self-harming tendencies. Or have you also struggled with endotoxemia? In my case, the impulse has subsided and was very strong more than a decade ago when I moved in with some others to share a flat, I was in a really bad place at the time, feeling lonely and overwhelmed. I think when endotoxin gets into the bloodstream and crosses the blood-brain barrier it raises glutamate, which is deeply excitotoxic. I wouldn't be surprised if retinol and its evil twin retinoic acid also raise glutamate in the brain, making it harder to get into a GABA-ergic and relaxed state.
Fortunately, suicidal thoughts were never more than fantasies that I would entertain for half an hour before breaking down in tears. And what always prevented me from actually doing anything dangerous was, firstly, my fear of it, especially of experiencing any kind of excruciating pain, and secondly, the self-blame that my parents and siblings would feel if they ever had to deal with a suicide in their family. I've read that there are more than 100 people whose lives are permanently changed by a suicide. Family, friends, neighbours, acquaintances, work colleagues.
And I've always found the hope to continue the uphill battle because I could convince myself that I wasn't hopeless and that things would eventually change, however long they actually took. Every suicidal person tells themselves the lie that their case is hopeless, that things will never change, that they're the exception and immune to any intervention. Don't believe that. The harder the battle, the greater the triumph!
We've had several suicides in my close family tree and also a couple of post-partum depressions as well. I think I had PPD after my first child. Yes, I believe these things are linked to vitamin A, toxicity and detox for sure. I've also noticed alcohol can be a downer.
Chronically disturbed sleep can affect your mind...and feeling "sick of being sick".
What works for me, although it is an old saw: Count your blessings. And then count them again.
Personally I believe we choose to be here and will just end up back here again sort of like Ground Hog Day if we try to bag out. 😉
One of the things I've noticed is when one of my relatives is ill... the "sick of being sick" thing comes along just before "the dawn" of getting better.
Another thing that helps is getting things done. Even if it is a small thing. Go back and look at the work you got done and feel good. Laundry? Check.
And now for a musical interlude. Music helps a lot.
"the "sick of being sick" thing comes along just before "the dawn" of getting better"
I've experienced this many times... a shift, after the breaking point.
Glad you brought up Ground Hog Day. There have been times when I've felt like my days are repeating themselves ad infinitum. Nothing changes, nothing good ever happens. And then, sometimes, when I have the power of the observing ego to tap into, I realize, maybe there is something to be learned here. Things do change, on an almost imperceptible level, they really do. It's just that they don't change the way I might expect, not at warp speed. And you're so right, Lil Chick, about keeping your spirits up, counting your blessings is great advice, even doing little things like laundry, yep, just did it! I think I really suffer from not being as important as I'd like to be. Dude, chillax, don't walk around constantly disappointed that you're not as important as you want to be. Humor also helps. I like to laugh at myself and expose my phoniness. I had a girlfriend once who was really good at that. She was a blessing in that regard, because she knocked me off my high horse. 🙂
@audrey Thanks for sharing. It's very encouraging.
By the way, I'm so happy to be able to talk so openly about issues that aren't necessarily directly related to vitamin A. I really enjoy when someone shares their experiences.
Quote from Hermes on September 2, 2023, 12:14 pm@audrey Thanks for sharing. It's very encouraging.
By the way, I'm so happy to be able to talk so openly about issues that aren't necessarily directly related to vitamin A. I really enjoy when someone shares their experiences.
Yes they are, you have tons of articles of young people which took his life after Accutane's treatment.
tough topic brings much to mind.
knew decades ago that excessive B6 intake bring horrific violent memorable dreams. telltale mark of such dreams is extremely colorful dreams. vivid colors even for those who dream in black and white or grays.
now that I'm reading understandingB6toxicity.com I came to realize other symptoms are connected. but the mental aspects of B6 are horrendous. all mind altering drugs work on B6 metabolism directly or indirectly. now that I got so polluted on vit A and copper, I came to realize how these two cause other deficiencies and excesses. B6 is one of them.
Getting me off vit A and copper helped. This last month getting B6 down helped more. physical symptoms are easy to catch. what is harder to catch is how much nicer I am. Wife, neighbors, coworkers, everyone seem like nicer poeple to me. Even strangers. Think what I am seeing is a reflection of what they all see in me. Granted I am in less pain so my face and posture look less stressed. Even so there is definitely more going on. Even when confronted with stressful people (like two potential muggers today) things just go easier. Feels easier for people to be nicer to me and not nice people feel like they prefer to move away.
Kind of the way cats gravitate toward the person in the room who hates cats and dogs head toward the dog lover in the room?
In terms of how our perspective steals us or makes us vulnerable - at my azimuth in Dec 2022, max pain min sleep, I translated fear to anger to persistent prayer. simple 5 word prayer. Math tells me that any One who is omnipotent, omniscient and good needs not alot of explanation from me. It is the fact that I express gratitude and more requests that matters. Besides, it is better than swearing. At some point it becomes determination to not give in to temptation to let evil confuse me enough to hurt myself further than I did to get in this much pain.
The groundhog day is a beautiful perspective along the line of the math discussed above. Brings to mind Joe Rogan's interview with Bobcat Goldthwaite after Robin Williams died. Goldthwaite was Williams' best friend. They talked over how deranged Williams was from all the years of psyche drugs. Somewhere in there Rogan asked if Williams had ever considered suicide before all the drugs and psyche treatments. Goldthwaite looked at Rogan like he was an idiot. Then stated that that is what we do. That all decent comedians, that suicide thoughts is their prime topic. It is always an undertone if not the directly considered topic. Richard Prior had similar thoughts. Humor is stating horrific bad stuff that everyone is afraid to acknowledge, hear, see or let alone talk about, in such a way that everyone gets relieved in the least scary and painful way.
Goldthwaite was beautiful in how he dealt with it. Makes sense about all comedians by varying degrees having to come to terms with the topic. The best ones are the ones who will not be daunted and will not let their audience be daunted. Like the poster of a mouse flipping the bird at the hawk just before the talons hit "Defiant to the last" or the other poster of the heron swallowing a frog with the frogs arms sticking out reaching around to the heron's throat choking the bird "Never give up."
Keep on. We all need you. All of you. Glad you are here and glad you brought this here. Thank you.