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Tinnitus, dry eyes, and nightmares
Yes @joe With less vA we live in a different aspect of Reality. The transformations do bring up anger. This too will pass.
Our father told us many times the story of the little mouse that falls into a pot of milk and cannot get out. It swims around desperately. Instead of letting itself drown. Swims and swims until butter forms under its little paws! Then it rests on the butter and jumps out.
Yes we all need all of you.
Quote from Ourania on September 9, 2023, 6:27 amYes @joe With less vA we live in a different aspect of Reality. The transformations do bring up anger. This too will pass.
Our father told us many times the story of the little mouse that falls into a pot of milk and cannot get out. It swims around desperately. Instead of letting itself drown. Swims and swims until butter forms under its little paws! Then it rests on the butter and jumps out.
Yes we all need all of you.
Nice. I thought the story was going to end with the mouse drinking the milk up. Your ending is much better.
Getting me off vit A and copper helped. This last month getting B6 down helped more. physical symptoms are easy to catch. what is harder to catch is how much nicer I am. Wife, neighbors, coworkers, everyone seem like nicer poeple to me. Even strangers. Think what I am seeing is a reflection of what they all see in me. Granted I am in less pain so my face and posture look less stressed. Even so there is definitely more going on. Even when confronted with stressful people (like two potential muggers today) things just go easier. Feels easier for people to be nicer to me and not nice people feel like they prefer to move away.
This has happened many times, although not as intense as you describe. As my health improves, my outlook changes and suddenly people around me seem to change, at least the way they react to me. Lately there have been more random little interactions with strangers. Like the one older lady who joked about a little bump in the floor that she almost tripped over because it was dark and hard to see. Or the waiter I almost ran into because I didn't see her. She looked at me indignantly. Half a minute later she left the restaurant to serve the guests outside. I looked at her and apologized, and she smiled. This hasn't happened in years, ten years? At least a long time ago.
I hope my social skills will continue to improve as I get healthier, because my life will be richer. I've also become more emotional. Anger seems really strong at times, sadness too, but also joy is more pronounced, and as quickly as some of the emotions appear, they also disappear. Any kind of pain, toxicity and sleep deprivation is like muting your heart and mind, making you dumb and emotionally disconnected.
Thank you for your testimony. And for your encouragement in the last paragraph.
Yes, this is happening to us too. It is the contrary of autism.
Enjoy!
We found anger is the first step. The Ancient Greeks said it was due to "black bile", one of the four biles, stocked in the liver.
The second step is a kind of desertification. Lots of people disappeared from our life, died off, never answered our mails. It seems the only reason they were in our life was because there was enough vA around to make their memory stick to us.
The third step is what you describe, a new outlook on others, budding new friendships, feeling related to others. New things/relationships happening.
The fourth step is your desires are coming true. Success, effortless, just a manifestation that you are right. This is happening to us more and more. In sharp contrast to a long previous period of problems, health and otherwise. The period when we were poisoning ourselves.
It is a bit tiring, because the results, positive as they are, require a lot of management. For example, I am starting to see more and more. This is a huge joy!!! But at the same time I notice now how everything is old and dirty, I thought I was cleaning my kitchen, and I see it is horrible! And I just don't have the strength to clean it properly at the moment, all the strength has gone into eye repair.
There most probably is a fifth step, but I don’t know yet what it is…
Of course, these steps are not really separate, they overlap, and also every squirt of vA detox brings them back in order for a short time.
And the desire to commit suicide too, this is a vA thing, it does not really come from us, it is like being possessed by something else. Starve that devil, it will retreat.
I just wanted to share a comment I read a long time ago at the Swedish forum Flashback by the user Kivan. I translated that comment from Swedish to English. To me this comment says that no one can know all the possibilities that could happen in the future. I think people who are really low and suicidal, easily can think that something (bad) is simply bound to happen and from that point of view suicide might even seem logical to them if they don't believe that they can affect that.
"Wait with hanging your self!
I am close to finding "the secret", a shortcut in life.
What are you afraid of that leaves you longing for death?
Have you thought all the thoughts that you can think, is your soul empty, finished?
Do you lack interesting goals?
Or is it that you have a difficulty to keep together a world view when the human psyche's view on history-present-future, is crushed by the harsh realitiy's constant now?
Do you value what other humans think about you?
If that is the case, why do you do it?
Is it humans with a soul or is there maybe only a shadow left.
How many don't you meet that are stuck in thought patterns that others have put in place?
Suicide is never the result of the own soul's thoughts.
Who have manipulated you to the degree that they have taken over your mind, enslaved you?
If there is a spark left of yourself, try to let it grow.
I demand that you answer my woolly questions!"
@david "Suicide is never the result of the own soul's thoughts."
It can be. If you are for example in really really bad situation with your health for example.. It is common sense that if you suffer a lot and you know it can be only worse lets say if you are in end stage of cancer or some dementia, ALS, MS whatever. You know that only death will bring you peace.. For cases like that there should be available professional assisted suicide.. I have huge respect for people who didn't have that option in place where they live so they took it into their hands. Good example of that was Robin Williams. He knew that he will end up out of his mind from that dementia in some facility pissing himself. So he did what he had to do to not end up like that.. But that is the only scenario where I agree with suicide. But still who am I to say someone who has some really bad case of depression for example that he should just deal with it of seek help. I had some mild depression my whole life and I can't still even imagine how bad it must be to have depression like people who had everything from nice family, a lot of friends, money, fame etc. like for example Chester Bennington from Linkin Park and still ended up killing themselves.. People without mental issues like that will never ever understand their pain..
There are usually some exemptions to absolute statements, like never and always.
The comment that the user Kivan made, was a direct attempt to stop someone from continuing their suicide planning. Using an absolute term like never I think is justified in that specific case. You can read the whole thread with a translation site/program if you like. Here is a link to the original Flashback forum thread in Swedish:
https://www.flashback.org/t1340835p4
Deciding for what suicide is "acceptable" for I think is meaningless, and I don't think it is always as easy as a right or wrong decision. The only wrong with it is that it is terminal, life-ending and it will affect lots of other people around you as have been mentioned previously by someone else in this thread.
Regarding suicide or euthanatia (assisted suicide) I think that it maybe should be optional over a certain high age as long as they are mentally stable or have made those decisions known before any illness. Making a terminal decision with an unstable mind just sounds like a horrible idea.
What do you think about an old spouse committing suicide after their long-time partner have fallen deeper and deeper into a nasty brain disease?
I still think the quote in my previous comment is well-rounded and includes this sentence:
"Have you thought all the thoughts that you can think, is your soul empty, finished?"
Perhaps the original quote could have included something about how to view soul-crushing experiences and how someone will need some type of help to get out of that hole they are in. Afterwards they need to build a secure fence around that hole to avoid slipping into that hole again.
Assisted suicide is bizarre: There are companies that make money off your death. And what happens to those who carry out the suicide for you? There are reports of people suffering tremendously from this strange job.
@christian @david all I am saying is that we have no right to tell other people what they should or shouldn't do with their body. It is so easy to say suicide is wrong if you never was in shoes of that person. Why you think that only person in old age could have assisted suicide? You think that there are no young people who are suffering every second of their miserable life with some bad health issues? You really feel entitled to say who can/can't end their suffering? I understand that it can be abused etc.. But I am not talking about that. I am talking about simple fact that you can easily end up in situation where life is no longer worth living and if you still don't understand that I hope that you will never understand that because it must be horrible place to be, but also I hope that you gain some empathy for people in that situation..
Interesting comment
"I know people who were terminally ill in Canada, did do the assisted death. They died on their own terms and did not suffer. I am from the health care field and the seniors that are dying are given a butterfly needle and doses of morphine are administered to the point that they die quickly and don't suffer. This practice has been going on way before MAID. Ive taken care of a dying man who was begging to die, throwing himself out of bed screaming. He told the dr he wanted to die and the dr refused to help him. Eventually days later, the dr did administer the morphine and he died the next day. I've seen many horrific situations where the family wanted to keep their suffering parent alive against their wishes because the family weren't ready for their loved ones to die. Do I believe in MAID,,,,yes am I conflicted with MAID, yes. Would I do it? Probably not unless I had a terminal disease and not mental illness for sure. I do believe we have more compassion for our beloved pets (stop the suffering) than we do our own people."