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Very interesting points - Thank you Grant

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I do believe that some of the viruses we think exist might not be real.  It might be possible to call a bunch of symptoms a virus and then have the disease turn out to be ... not from a virus.  So, on the long list of viruses that we have named as a culture, there may be some that actually were not real or were misunderstood.

For instance, I've seen some interesting alternative explanations for polio.

But I don't doubt that when Auntie Matilda has a cold sore on her lip, you probably shouldn't kiss her, no matter how nice the Christmas present was!    🙂

 

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@are I think I got your point, but imho the slightly greater chance of public interest/recognition is not worth Grant's keeping his mouth shut on other health topics, and public skepticism of vaccines is quite big today, so I don't think it would turn off anyone open-minded.

Another thing, while it was my somewhat personal (unfortunate and uneducated) choice to take Accutane and consume high A content foods, today where I live, (and looks like it's almost worldwide) authorities are trying to impose on us some new vaccines based on some strange science. It's them coming to us, so I think we have all the reasons in the world to question ourselves what they do and say, whatever the media channel.

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Quote from Arena on August 14, 2021, 7:04 am

You are clearly not getting my point, which is on me, considering you are all very smart individuals. So, I'll try to rephrase what I'm saying in a hopefully more concise way:
This is obviously Grant's forum, and he can write whatever he wants, that is of course granted. But, if my intent was to reach a lot of people to potentially save lives AND test my hypothesis that VA is indeed not a vitamin, you need some sort of public/academic credibility. There are certain mechanisms in society that prevent and enable people access to the spotlight. There is nothing scientific about consensus at all, but if you go against the consensus, these latent mechanisms will prevent you from getting into the spotlight, and you are an easy victim of mockery. Take the recent discussion of Ray Peat on this forum, as an example.
Also, from a slightly different probabilistic angle: the more scientific theories that Grant tries to prove wrong, the higher the probability will be that he is wrong *somewhere* in his arguments, thus being easily branded as some kind of quack. And there went my hope of seeing Grant on the Joe Rogan and New York Times best seller list.

I updated my post on Ray Peat that it is a statement from me against Tyranny - I don't care about Ray Peat I never have.

I just find it absurd that Ray Peat which I just heard talks well about drinking liquid vitamin A, in the form of orange juice and milk, for health benefits when Grant Genereux and his forum here is about how to eat and drink less vitamin A.  I have never followed Ray Peat and I never plan to.

On the topic of Grant Genereux and his view on viruses:
After listening to podcasts with Grant Genereux, reading his books and his post on here I think Grant could handle just about any topic just because he always comes across a lovely human being that always cares about others.

If Grant Genereux personally is able to blow yet another hole with his logic into the medical establishment I think that will make Grant look better against them and make the medical establishment look weaker; a 2:0 for Grant. But I think if Grant relies on other people's research on the virus topic it might not go as well and might even be detrimental.

No matter what Grant Genereux decides to do, I wish him the absolute very best!

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I'm also wondering if you noticed any changes in your character/behavior after you depleted vitamin A. Given its effect on hormones/neurotransmitters.

Maybe you wrote about it somewhere, I'm sorry if I didn't notice.

Hi @daniil,

I’ve mentioned these changes before in various other posts. 

  1. I’m much calmer and more relaxed, almost nothing much gets to me. I tend to think about and see problems / issues more clearly now.
  2. My handwriting has improved a lot. It has gotten noticeably smoother and more stylish. So, I’d say that my hand-eye coordination has improved.
  3. My sense of physical balance has improved.
  4. I feel that my memory recall is better, both long term and short-term. I’m fairly often having old memories come back now, and recalling events from my youth very clearly.
  5. One other physiological change is that I generally don’t sweat much, that is unless I’m in very hot weather for extended periods.  I’ve not used deodorant even once in the last 7 years. I also now have no sweating at night, like none at all.
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The effects on memory are crucial I think, memories and their physical signs, like scars.

Memories need glutamate and stress to be engraved. Trying no stress is not enough to erase them, but it seems that lowering vA is a way to erase them! I think that when we erase the fake crooked memories colored by emotions we can at last see the past for what it was.

I wonder if there is a vA effect in infantile amnesia? At the time of birth the mother and the child are flooded with stress and the amount of vA circulating is very much enhanced. The baby would come into this world with what it takes to forget about its birth. Once the amount of vA has been used up, the baby can start stocking memories?

Did you remember very early days as a result?  @ggenereux2014

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