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Vitamin A plus environmental toxins (lithium/aluminum/mercury)

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Hi Everyone,

I’ve recently come across Grant’s blog and books and I’m relatively new to the idea that Vit A is a toxin. I’ve been reading (as fast as I can) the blog, books, and this forum and I still have a lot to go. However, I thought it might be useful to share some thoughts at this point. (But, forgive me if these ideas have been covered already and I haven’t read it yet.) While I don’t have eczema or any other “auto-immune” syndrome (that I know of), I have someone close to me who has full-body psoriasis and has had it for over three decades; so, I’m looking to see if this person and I can run some test interventions.

First, let me say thank you to Grant for developing this theory associating vitamin A toxicity with what are commonly called “auto-immune” conditions. You have done a tremendous job cataloging lots of evidence and ideas in support of this concept.

Second, I’m not sure that the theory by itself is the whole story. Vitamin A is naturally present in a wide variety of foods. What if the problem is not so much vitamin A but rather something in the environment is poisoning our livers? Or, both too much vitamin A and liver poisoning?

The folks at the Slime Mold Time Mold blog (https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2021/08/02/a-chemical-hunger-part-vii-lithium/) make an interesting case that the obesity epidemic could be driven by increased lithium in the environment, particularly the water supply. Lithium is known to affect the liver (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1629393/). Lithium, aluminum, and mercury are all environmental toxins that have 1) been around since ancient times (unlike glyphosate); 2) are much more prevalent in our environment and food supply in recent times; and 3) have toxic affects at low doses.

Likewise, vitamin A has been around a long time; but something has happened in recent times to exacerbate the prevalence of vitamin A toxic (“auto-immune”) conditions. Certainly, something big happened around the 1980's.

Also, it was mentioned awhile ago on the forum that perhaps the problem is not so much vitamin A per se, but synthetic or denatured (I don’t know which term is right) vitamin A -- which I think is what's used for milk and flour fortification. (Side note: This food fortification with vitamin A is particularly insidious because there’s no way to know if store-bought or restaurant breads are made with fortified flours, thinking it is "healthier.")

All that said, it seems to me that what fits the picture best is the combination of an environmental agent (lithium or aluminum or both) poisoning our livers and synthetic vitamin A being added to our foods in abundance.

Some possible environmental changes:

  • Fortification of most kinds of dairy and grain flours with vitamin A.
  • Lithium released as part of battery production and oil/shale drilling operations.
  • Increased use of amalgam dental fillings (mercury).
  • The increased vaccine schedule (aluminum) for children along with changes to the formulary of vaccines.
  • It probably doesn't help either that in recent times, we have lost the seasonal cycles of food availability. Perhaps in times past, we would build up a certain amount of vitamin A in our bodies during the summer and fall and that would drain away during the winter and spring?

If these conjectures are true, it would certainly explain a lot of otherwise weird phenomena.

It makes me think that under normal/natural conditions, our bodies can handle a certain amount of vitamin A just fine. And, in fact, it might be good for our bodies to be exposed to small amounts of natural vitamin A. But, if there's an environmental toxin that reduces our liver capacity for dealing with vitamin A or our livers have trouble processing different types of vitamin A or our environments start containing much more vitamin A than ever before throughout the year -- or, most likely, a combination of these factors – then, that all adds up to making us extra sensitive to vitamin A than we would otherwise be and strange problems start to appear.

What to do? If these conjectures might be true, it sounds like these are some things to try:

  • I like Grant’s idea of using activated charcoal to try getting contaminants out of the liver specifically and body generally. That’s the "go-to" treatment used for poisoning and is probably very important.
  • I like Grant’s ideas on the low vitamin A diet. Grant’s ebooks go into the diet in much more detail.
  • However, it might be good to follow the low vitamin A diet more strictly for a few months and then add a little natural vitamin A sources for a few months. In other words, introduce a little seasonality.
  • It might be good to eat some saturated fat. (I understand that the saturated fats encourage recycling of stored body fats, particularly poly-unsaturated fats.)
  • It's probably wise to assiduously avoid synthetic vitamin A (fortified foods) at all times.
  • It might be a good idea to use a reverse osmosis water filter or distilled water for water that you drink or cook with. This idea would help reduce lithium and aluminum.
  • If using distilled/reverse osmosis water, it’s probably good to add a little salt. In fact, it might be better to add potassium (in the form of "No Salt") and salt (I prefer pink Himalayan salt) in a 2:1 ratio. In other words, you could fill a glass of water and add 2 shakes of potassium salt, 1 shake of regular salt.
  • Avoid vegetable oils that are highly concentrated and processed (corn, canola, cottonseed/Crisco, soy, sunflower, safflower, rice bran, grape seed). This is a whole separate and big topic, but the most relevant aspect of it here is that I don't believe the concentration of such oils -- which occurs during processing -- is in any way natural or healthy for our bodies. I think the concentration is bad in itself; but is also bad because it concentrates any environmental toxins the underlying vegetable/seeds/beans have been exposed to – which is quite significant when you realize that corn and soybeans are prime crops in North America.

 

Thank you for reading this stream of consciousness. Do I sound way off base?

Now, I’ll get back to my readings…

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HermesDonaldViktor2Charity

I have all these sayings now.    "all toxins matter"   "the most important thing to get in food is calories, and the most important thing to avoid is toxins"  "aging is the process of getting toxic"

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HermesViktor2Charity

Thank you for reading this stream of consciousness. Do I sound way off base?

No, not at all. You raise issues that have crossed my mind as well. There's certainly more toxins than just vitamin A. Aluminum is certainly a big issue, implicated in the onset of Alzheimer's. How do these toxins contribute to chronic health problems? My bet is on vitamin A.

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Charity

Interesting musing @phil  :- )

Just tonight I was searching for information about activated charcoal in order to answer a question someone had about it's effects when taken near time of taking medication. (The answer is, don't do that.)

However, I could not help but notice that there were a number of "trusted" medical site/sources that were using very similar words to in some way downplay its value or benefits. Here's an example of a site that actually does a pretty thorough presentation, but keeps putting the nonsensical (to me anyway) statement that the studies that showed benefit were "older" ... why should that matter?

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/activated-charcoal#benefits

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HermesDonald

I have started working through the Poisoning for Profits book (and a little bit of the Breast Cancer book); and I can see that there's much more to think about (and that Grant has already written about) related to my first post above than I realized. I'll have to revisit these musings after I finish some more reading.

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Charity

@phil

Regarding aluminium: Have you read any of Dr. Christopher Exley's work?

This new post about aluminium destroying the mucus protecting the epithilial cells of fish gills, to me at a glaze seems alike to aluminium destroying the intesinal mucus layer and exposing intestinal epithilial cells to more damage. The post is called:

"It Started With a Fish: Lessons learned from fish gills"

https://drchristopherexley.substack.com/p/it-started-with-a-fish?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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Charity

@david, thank you for bringing up Exley's work.

It was quite a few years ago that I was part of a group that got interested in trying out the Volvic water experiment. This was a group where many of us had struggled (and in some cases overcome) chronic illness, so we were an interesting subject group. Some tolerated it fine. Others were set back on their heels. Those with the most trouble could not touch it at all in their current state. Those in the middle were able to start with very small amounts and work up to drinking a full glass with no reactions.

I was in the "can't touch it" group. It caused intense sinus pressure which would then lead to facial ganglion irritation which would go into a migraine. Not willing to toss it, I poured all I had left from the plastic bottles into a 5 gallon glass bottle, hoping I would tolerate it eventually. After getting more healing a few years later, I was able to drink it as my regular drinking water until I ran out with no repercussions.

Then, when iverm-ctin became of interest, both oral and topical application would again lead to the same intolerable sinus pressure for me. It was 2020 and there was some thought that it was protective. So some in our group were taking a weight calculated dose twice a week along with zinc picolinate. For those with strong symptoms, the dose was reduced to whatever level was tolerable and increased only as tolerated. Over time some observed unexpected improvements in other symptoms. It is now thought that it feeds the bifida bacteria in a way that might improve the microbiome. I don't really know.

It was at this time I realized that could not tolerate zinc supplements either. Same sinus pressure headaches.

Considering that sinus symptoms are sometimes associated with the liver having trouble detoxing, I think that these experiences indicate that supporting my liver is key to getting beyond this issue. 

Before understanding how excess A can cripple the liver's ability to clear toxins, sometime early this Spring I added some foods that were higher in A, and my skin began to show symptoms that I now know are associated with vitamin A toxicity.

The latest substance that I've tried in small amounts is methylene blue. It seems to be tolerable. Maybe one drop every 4-7 days. I am aware that I have one remaining amalgam filling and I am curious if it could oxidize the mercury such that it can be cleared from the body. 

Just some musings about my own experience.

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@david,

Thanks for sharing that link. The article seems quite relevant to vitamin A; it appears both vitamin A and aluminum cause damage to epithelial tissues.

I have heard of Dr. Exley before. I learned of him from the writings of Dennis Crouse, who came up with this recipe for making your own "silica water" (which he calls "silicade") to remove aluminum from the body:
https://prevent-alzheimers-autism-stroke.com/silicade/

Interestingly, when I used silica water regularly, it didn't seem to have much effect on me. However, the person I know with psoriasis would take the silica water and shortly after have strong symptoms of depression. It was so strong that this person decided to stop using it.

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@charity,

Interesting about methylene blue. It's on my list of treatments to investigate. Do you think it is helping your liver?

@phil, I don't really know.

I know someone that really can feel it opening up their microcirculation. Stops their headaches, which they say are pretty bad. But also makes them feel melancholy, crying easily.

Here is a talk by Dr. Kotsanis about how they use it at his institute in Texas:
https://youtu.be/bPPqDQeV4SM

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