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Jiří on December 13, 2021, 5:56 am
@rockarolla I still don't know if I should stop eating whey protein. It looks like it has a lot of benefits viz. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7126817/ and there are no issues like with whole milk where casein, fat with retinol etc. is. But I wonder if it really "shuts down" our own immune system. So over time we can run in some issues... I use good quality whey protein isolate because I want to make sure, that my body has amino acids even in times when I am for example under stress so my digestion is worse. So I can't for example absorb amino acids that I need form meat or plants.. I think that whey protein is really good source of protein, but at the same time I also think that whole milk is really problematic. So I wonder if keep eating the better part of the milk, but still part of the milk is a good idea long term.. But I would recommend whey protein to basically all older people who have issues with protein intake and/or digestion.. Whey is really good at keeping muscles on the body.. I workout hardly at all just some body weight exercises for many years now and I still look better(more muscular) than most people in the gyms who are lifting heavy weights..
EDIT- anyway I just ordered 5kg of whey protein, 2kg of beef hydrolyzed collagen, 1kg of vit C and 500g of glycine.. 😀
@rockarolla I still don't know if I should stop eating whey protein. It looks like it has a lot of benefits viz. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7126817/ and there are no issues like with whole milk where casein, fat with retinol etc. is. But I wonder if it really "shuts down" our own immune system. So over time we can run in some issues... I use good quality whey protein isolate because I want to make sure, that my body has amino acids even in times when I am for example under stress so my digestion is worse. So I can't for example absorb amino acids that I need form meat or plants.. I think that whey protein is really good source of protein, but at the same time I also think that whole milk is really problematic. So I wonder if keep eating the better part of the milk, but still part of the milk is a good idea long term.. But I would recommend whey protein to basically all older people who have issues with protein intake and/or digestion.. Whey is really good at keeping muscles on the body.. I workout hardly at all just some body weight exercises for many years now and I still look better(more muscular) than most people in the gyms who are lifting heavy weights..
EDIT- anyway I just ordered 5kg of whey protein, 2kg of beef hydrolyzed collagen, 1kg of vit C and 500g of glycine.. 😀
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Даниил on December 13, 2021, 1:18 pm
@salt maybe you didn't see it
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9201573/
@salt maybe you didn't see it
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9201573/
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Jiří on December 13, 2021, 5:56 am
@rockarolla I still don't know if I should stop eating whey protein. It looks like it has a lot of benefits viz. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7126817/ and there are no issues like with whole milk where casein, fat with retinol etc. is. But I wonder if it really "shuts down" our own immune system. So over time we can run in some issues... I use good quality whey protein isolate because I want to make sure, that my body has amino acids even in times when I am for example under stress so my digestion is worse. So I can't for example absorb amino acids that I need form meat or plants.. I think that whey protein is really good source of protein, but at the same time I also think that whole milk is really problematic. So I wonder if keep eating the better part of the milk, but still part of the milk is a good idea long term.. But I would recommend whey protein to basically all older people who have issues with protein intake and/or digestion.. Whey is really good at keeping muscles on the body.. I workout hardly at all just some body weight exercises for many years now and I still look better(more muscular) than most people in the gyms who are lifting heavy weights..
EDIT- anyway I just ordered 5kg of whey protein, 2kg of beef hydrolyzed collagen, 1kg of vit C and 500g of glycine.. 
Maybe you haven't seen it, but Ascorbic acid seem slows down ALDH more than anything else...
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Jiří on December 13, 2021, 5:56 am
@rockarolla I still don't know if I should stop eating whey protein. It looks like it has a lot of benefits viz. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7126817/ and there are no issues like with whole milk where casein, fat with retinol etc. is. But I wonder if it really "shuts down" our own immune system. So over time we can run in some issues... I use good quality whey protein isolate because I want to make sure, that my body has amino acids even in times when I am for example under stress so my digestion is worse. So I can't for example absorb amino acids that I need form meat or plants.. I think that whey protein is really good source of protein, but at the same time I also think that whole milk is really problematic. So I wonder if keep eating the better part of the milk, but still part of the milk is a good idea long term.. But I would recommend whey protein to basically all older people who have issues with protein intake and/or digestion.. Whey is really good at keeping muscles on the body.. I workout hardly at all just some body weight exercises for many years now and I still look better(more muscular) than most people in the gyms who are lifting heavy weights..
EDIT- anyway I just ordered 5kg of whey protein, 2kg of beef hydrolyzed collagen, 1kg of vit C and 500g of glycine..
Maybe you haven't seen it, but Ascorbic acid seem slows down ALDH more than anything else...
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Beata on December 14, 2021, 3:45 am
@daniil , can you provide the links to studies showing the effect of ascorbic acid on ALDH?
I altogether stopped the massive doses of AA I was taking without much noticeable effect so far. But it had only been a week.
@daniil , can you provide the links to studies showing the effect of ascorbic acid on ALDH?
I altogether stopped the massive doses of AA I was taking without much noticeable effect so far. But it had only been a week.
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Даниил on December 14, 2021, 5:07 am
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Beata on December 14, 2021, 3:45 am
@daniil , can you provide the links to studies showing the effect of ascorbic acid on ALDH?
I altogether stopped the massive doses of AA I was taking without much noticeable effect so far. But it had only been a week.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266592711930005X#bib12
I think it's because AA is a strong reducing agent.
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Beata on December 14, 2021, 3:45 am
@daniil , can you provide the links to studies showing the effect of ascorbic acid on ALDH?
I altogether stopped the massive doses of AA I was taking without much noticeable effect so far. But it had only been a week.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266592711930005X#bib12
I think it's because AA is a strong reducing agent.
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salt on December 14, 2021, 6:03 am
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Даниил on December 14, 2021, 5:07 am
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Beata on December 14, 2021, 3:45 am
@daniil , can you provide the links to studies showing the effect of ascorbic acid on ALDH?
I altogether stopped the massive doses of AA I was taking without much noticeable effect so far. But it had only been a week.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266592711930005X#bib12
I think it's because AA is a strong reducing agent.
interesting that all the cereals and pulses they tested slowed down the detoxification enzymes
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Даниил on December 14, 2021, 5:07 am
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Beata on December 14, 2021, 3:45 am
@daniil , can you provide the links to studies showing the effect of ascorbic acid on ALDH?
I altogether stopped the massive doses of AA I was taking without much noticeable effect so far. But it had only been a week.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266592711930005X#bib12
I think it's because AA is a strong reducing agent.
interesting that all the cereals and pulses they tested slowed down the detoxification enzymes
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Jiří on December 14, 2021, 6:29 am
@daniil I take under 1g and I take it because I have issues with high free copper which destroys vit C on contact.. I don't think this doses have any negative effect on anything else..
@daniil I take under 1g and I take it because I have issues with high free copper which destroys vit C on contact.. I don't think this doses have any negative effect on anything else..
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Даниил on December 14, 2021, 7:39 am
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Jiří on December 14, 2021, 6:29 am
@daniil I take under 1g and I take it because I have issues with high free copper which destroys vit C on contact.. I don't think this doses have any negative effect on anything else..
No problem bro, just so you know.
I also think that you may consider some sources of vitamin C that will not be reducing agents. For example, natural sources, dehydroascorbate, maybe. I think they won't have that effect.
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Jiří on December 14, 2021, 6:29 am
@daniil I take under 1g and I take it because I have issues with high free copper which destroys vit C on contact.. I don't think this doses have any negative effect on anything else..
No problem bro, just so you know.
I also think that you may consider some sources of vitamin C that will not be reducing agents. For example, natural sources, dehydroascorbate, maybe. I think they won't have that effect.
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rockarolla on December 22, 2021, 6:56 am
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Jiří on December 13, 2021, 5:56 am
@rockarolla I still don't know if I should stop eating whey protein. It looks like it has a lot of benefits viz. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7126817/ and there are no issues like with whole milk where casein, fat with retinol etc. is. But I wonder if it really "shuts down" our own immune system.
I suspect it shuts down(downregulates) innate immunity at least if not covered with a lot of extra calories. As for another pubmed article .. well we can come out with just about any theory by nitpicking specific pieces from world wide research. 😉
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Jiří on December 13, 2021, 5:56 am
@rockarolla I still don't know if I should stop eating whey protein. It looks like it has a lot of benefits viz. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC7126817/ and there are no issues like with whole milk where casein, fat with retinol etc. is. But I wonder if it really "shuts down" our own immune system.
I suspect it shuts down(downregulates) innate immunity at least if not covered with a lot of extra calories. As for another pubmed article .. well we can come out with just about any theory by nitpicking specific pieces from world wide research. 😉
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lil chick on August 17, 2025, 1:57 pm
I was at a family event this week and saw a mid-nineties Auntie doing about 95 miles per hour with her walker. She looked great. Her son told me he put her on whey protein about 5 years back!
I was at a family event this week and saw a mid-nineties Auntie doing about 95 miles per hour with her walker. She looked great. Her son told me he put her on whey protein about 5 years back!
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