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Speaking of Karen Hurd. New interview just dropped on hormones.
@janelle525 she said that osteoporosis after menopause is not due to hormonal changes, but due to drinking coffee whole life. I mean how can I take her seriously really..
I think Karen Hurd is right about the soluble fiber helping to remove toxins from bile. And everyone will do better without stress. But I don't know if all sugars cause stress. Caffeine causes stress hormones to rise and it is addictive so that is reason enough to avoid it. But I doubt she would even consider that vitamin A could cause problems let alone osteoporosis. It isn't necessary to believe everything she says.
Quote from Jiří on October 27, 2025, 1:22 pm@janelle525 she said that osteoporosis after menopause is not due to hormonal changes, but due to drinking coffee whole life. I mean how can I take her seriously really..
I mean if you think about it... constantly stepping on the adrenaline drains calcium. My calcium was sky high on my hair test back in 2015 when I was having panic attacks and drinking coffee... meaning it was dumping from my body. And my teeth were melting too.
She shared one anecdote at the end, a lady with breast cancer who wasn't on HRT but was doing the sugar and caffeine, she helped her and her hormone levels came down to post menopausal and she is now cancer free. Karen believe caffeine and sugar cause stress which all stress increases estrogen production. I will say I had been doing really good avoiding sugary treats for a while, then had a load of sugar and I could tell the difference. And then I knew, all my days pounding sugar on Ray Peat diet was actually killing me (and I did feel like death couldn't make it through the night without getting more sugar MOAR SUGA!)
Quote from Janelle525 on October 27, 2025, 2:11 pmQuote from Jiří on October 27, 2025, 1:22 pm@janelle525 she said that osteoporosis after menopause is not due to hormonal changes, but due to drinking coffee whole life. I mean how can I take her seriously really..
I mean if you think about it... constantly stepping on the adrenaline drains calcium. My calcium was sky high on my hair test back in 2015 when I was having panic attacks and drinking coffee... meaning it was dumping from my body. And my teeth were melting too.
I am not saying that drinking a lot of coffee can't do all kinds of bad things. But she was specifically asked if the hormone changes has something to do with it and she said not it is from drinking coffee. So what would be her answer if some woman doesn't eat or drink anything like that and is ok and after menopause ends up with osteoporosis. To say that hormonal changes have nothing to do with it is simply ridiculous.
Females after menopause got into all kinds of troubles due to hormonal changes. For example if they are overloaded with copper they were ok because high estrogn pushed ceruloplasmin up and that kept that copper bioavailable. Once the estrogen drops there is no longer that high ceruloplasmin and so what is left is free unbound copper that is toxic and causing oxidative stress everywhere. They also stop bleeding so they start to accumulate iron etc.. Karen doesn't know any of this.
And again she gets away with it because the woman who is asking her has no idea. She listen Karen like some god and what Karen says is nothing but the truth.. That worked for people like her when people couldn't simply fact check everything within seconds. You have to have some balls or to be completely ignorant to say all kinds of wild shit even if you know that people can look it up if it is true or not. For example in case of Dr.Smith or Morley Robbins etc.. They don't care. They say whatever they want at this point. Because they know they have a cult of blind sheep followers and if there shows up somebody with uncomfortable questions that person will be deleted from all platforms and that's about it. At least Karen is not on this level. She doesn't try to milk people like the other "gurus"...
There are some interesting menopausal examples in my female line (all sharing lots of DNA). All had a few cups of caffeine and moderate amount of sweets a day. None were the type to binge on sweets. None were overweight (obese women are more likely to flash, google says).
#1. I think she has often been vitamin-A overloaded, has had lupus diagnosis (when young, which went into remission), never took birth control pills, facing the end game now (kidney failure) and has had a horrible time with meno. Bed-soaking flashes and osteoporosis until finally she tried the horse estrogen for a decade. Decided it made her and her doctor too nervous about cancer. So they took her off and she went right back to flashes etc. Then she got did get cancer anyways. Also higher tobacco and alcohol than the other two.
#2. The other is my grandmother who I don't think was vitamin-A overloaded. She also had some sort of cancer but not as serious as the other. No flashes, no osteoperosis. Smoked until middle age, moderate drinker.
#3. And of course there is my case: seriously vitamin-A overloaded, birth control pills for ten years when young. My guess is that I was heading down the path of #1 above but Grant showed up just in time, literally the year I hit meno at 55 and I'm 62 now. The first years were pretty rough with the flashing. I still have a few mild flashes a day. I actually do think I already see better sleep with the soluble fiber after one month, and fewer and shorter flashes. I don't think I have osteoporosis, I posted about a fall I took last month in which I was OK. Avoiding sweets isn't that hard for me, and it never helped me with hormones. (aside: I eat sweets in the morning if at all. Never after dinner. In fact, I never eat anything after dinner, a lifelong habit of mine due to my chronic vomiting history. I like to go to bed with an empty gut). Non-smoker, moderate drinker.
Could menopausal problems also be about kidney issues that are not really detectable yet? (the damage of long-term VA overload). I often wonder about my itching problems with sweat, are my kidneys damaged? Yet another thing that can keep one up at night. I would guess that as the soluble fiber helps the body detox then the burden on the kidneys becomes less. But healing probably takes time.
Are both VA overload and hormone overload due to "soluble fiber deficiency"? Hmm... MAYBE! But only on a "normal" diet. Probably no amount of soluble fiber would have helped me when I was eating sticks of butter slathered on liver and eel with a side of butternut and washing it down with cream and cod-liver oil.
I'm going to cross post this on the thread about hot flashes, since this is a bean thread, and it might help the convo there someday.
Bumping this thread after cross post.