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Hm, one home page selling it desceibes it as rich in vitamin A and good for athletes (now that is a first...)

Ferrarini Butter

Hm..  If that butter is rich in vitamin a, and as stated above it had half the vit A from american (?)  butter - how much vit A in IU is in american butter per 100g /3,5 oz? And what is your RDI? It seems rdi differs a lot between countries 🤔 Just curious 😁

Our rdi is 800 iu and that is the vit a content per 100g in our butter, no vit a added (all shortening and such have added vit a to match the same level as butter).

There just promoting the product on their website using keywords that relate to the product. It’s not entirely true. The nutrition label reads 4% as opposed to 8%. Compared to other countries, Italian milk has the lowest vitamin A content that I have seen in studies(UK, USA, Denmark, Sweden all have much higher levels). Buffalo milk has even less.(if anyone is interested in the studies, I can post them tomorrow.) if you happen to be in an Indian grocery, see if they have pure water buffalo ghee. That stuff is much lighter in color in comparison to standard cows ghee. The “organic, grass fed” ghee sitting in Whole Foods is unnaturally yellow in color and very, very strong tasting. I don’t believe that stuff is good to eat. It certainly overpowers many Indian dishes.. In general a good guide is the color of the butter.  But be wary of quantity, vitamin A is still gonna have the same effect even in smaller amounts.

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Quote from YH on December 30, 2018, 6:15 pm
Quote from Bella on December 30, 2018, 12:33 pm
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I recently found some buffalo's milk butter. It has half the Vitamin A content of cow's milk butter(4% of RDA vs 8%). The taste is more mild and is not as heavy.  It also comes from Italy, so I imagine they don't fortify cow feed with beta carotene.

Do you mind sharing the brand name?

I actually made a mistake. It’s cows milk butter from Italy. It’s called Ferrarini. It’s probably the whitest butter I’ve ever seen.

Thanks, I looked for buffalo butter and it was super expensive! Almost $20 USD for 8 ounces!!!

Liz, it looks like the RDI in my country is 700-900 micrograms for adults (700-female and 900-male) so pretty close to the 800 you mentioned. Cronometer lists my RDI at 2300 IU.

Above was Bella. 🙂

Wow, it is a huge difference between 700 and 2300 😳

Either way doesnt matter since most people are getting way more than that anyway. I wonder what studies (because it always seems to be studies) are backing up the 2300 a day recommendation.

My country used to fortify all milk with vit A. They stopped that some years ago due to studies showing it is harmful (but they still fortify all butter-like products) but still all is fortified with vit D and they are talking about fortifying even more products with D now [add facepalm here]

Man trying to play God is fxxing us up badly. Carrot is probably the best example of that, as the orange variety we have now is man made... (or man manipulated might be a more correct term?)

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Liz, The 700 RDI is micrograms and the 2300 is IU. As far as I can tell 0.3 micrograms is equivalent to 1 IU. It’s like we are purposefully being confused because different units are used all the time. IU is considered the older unit of measurement but by introducing a new unit of measure and still keeping the older form around just makes everything harder for the average person to decipher. How is the common everyday person who isn’t health conscious even going to begin to understand?!? They aren’t of course and just stick to government recommendations or worse pop a multi to cover their bases! We all know the government is probably the very last entity we need telling us how to be healthy. :/

Lol lets come up with new terms to make everything more complicated 😂 apparently my country uses RE now as a term (retinol equivalents) where 1 mcg retinol = 1 RE hence the 700-900 (800) number, but 2 mcg betacarotene as supplement = 1 RE and 12 mcg betacarotene from food = 1 RE.

Regarding supplements it makes me think of something I heard from a friend in the US a few years back, about supplemental vitamins becoming government regulated in the way it would no longer be possible to buy vitamins/supps w/o a prescription. Is there any truth to that?

Quote from Liz on January 2, 2019, 12:11 am

Lol lets come up with new terms to make everything more complicated 😂 apparently my country uses RE now as a term (retinol equivalents) where 1 mcg retinol = 1 RE hence the 700-900 (800) number, but 2 mcg betacarotene as supplement = 1 RE and 12 mcg betacarotene from food = 1 RE.

Regarding supplements it makes me think of something I heard from a friend in the US a few years back, about supplemental vitamins becoming government regulated in the way it would no longer be possible to buy vitamins/supps w/o a prescription. Is there any truth to that?

I’ve heard about that in the past but haven’t seen any changes here in the USA. Sometimes I think it’s just a rumor that gets recirculated by the natural food/supplement industry every few years to get people riled up. I’ve been hearing it off and on for 30 years.

I think the numerous names/abbreviations/ units of measurement for A and carotenes within a specific country not to mention between different nations certainly creates more confusion. There are multiple forms of vitamins E, K and D as well but those don’t seem nearly as complicated-but complicated enough!

It’s crazy that we’ve been convinced we need these supposed nutrients but as time passes it’s becoming clear that some aren’t actually nutrients at all and at least in the case of A it’s probably closer to an actual poison.

I could see where many people just give up trying and leave it in the hands of perceived experts.

If any form of vitamin A were to be safe, dairy vitamin A would make sense. Why would a food produced by the mother for their babies contain poison? Dairy containing Vitamin A seems to be a pretty poor design by nature.

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