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A Painless Way to Detox : BAIN DERIVATIF
We have been consistently doing the bottle method for two hours every evening. This is our film/TV time. I find that generally it helps (less brutal detox), but sometimes, less often, it does not and makes the detox harder.
However, all in all, it is beneficial and we don't intend to stop. Easy, cheap, not need to remember anything.
One clear result: even though the temperature of the room in always the same, the melting of the ice takes longer and longer. That is, the body is less inflamed, most probably due to the VA diet.
@lil-chick I forgot to add that I had done this for a number of years in and out. I had a small cold water outlet installed in my toilet, because I lived in a very hot climate. This was done easily on the pipe that brings the water to the toilet's cistern.
Anyway, I could not live without this as it feels so clean, and also this means that every time I go for a pee, any VA products lingering around the groin are washed off. This is like a mini bain derivative, maybe it does not derive anything but it removes VA products so that they do not get reabsorbed from that sweat.@jaj
Every little bit helps.
@jaj had reported that a lot of VA products leave the body in the urine.
Nice gadget! When I saw that it had a video, I wondered if it would be NSFW, LOL. You see, many of us here in the US are in the dark about such things, LOL. We go overseas and wonder why there is a foot washer in the bathroom. So exotic.
Since I'm working at home on the computer, I'm giving this a go. I'm using a frozen bean bag between my legs. I find the cold helps with my focus and thinking. As an added bonus, I also find that sitting on the bag is naturally correcting my posture, it feels a bit like a saddle.
Ok, so it does cause me sleep issues. Since it is a cold treatment, I think it raises adrenaline which in my case is bad since I'm already high adrenaline. I've done it only a few minutes today since I do feel it helps reduce inflammation, we'll see if my sleep issues resolve.
Better take it easy in the beginning. Very easy. This is extremely efficient I think.
Apart from the general cold, there is the shiver effect. When you come to the point that there is a shiver, a good squirt of VA gets released I think. I don't know of any studies on this, but I have noticed this also to happen when the temperature does down, in autumn for example
I suddenly feel cold, even though I have no problems with cold (hands always warm, can go out in a T shirt whatever the weather, can swim in cold water). I realize now after these months of VA detox, that what I feel are in fact shivers of PAIN; Like something so cold it burns my bones.
I wonder if the sudden drop in temperature does not activate a VA detox mechanism, a bit like (and may be related) to what happens when the cold water makes you want to pee.
Maybe this is, after all (@lil-chick) related to orgasm. Maybe orgasms induce such a release of VA, which would go with the fact that VA is actively linked to procreation.
Good luck!
Grant has called eczema the scratch that itches.
When I was a young girl I was already getting red in the face, and a 'beauty expert" told me to treat my skin to utter gentleness, and to keep hands off...never rub lotions on roughly or (god help us) scratch it. I had a lot of self control back then, LOL and wouldn't touch my face to save my life after those words. I wonder if that was opposite from good advice. Probably a little scratching can be beneficial! All animals scratch. However, a person must have the common sense to distract oneself from it when it starts to escalate. Before damage.
On a naturopath's advice (as an adult) I did some skin brushing and noticed good effects to spider veins, (which seems to be related to VA)
Perhaps a shudder/shiver is an inner version of this scratch-that-itches effect.
There is an study by an Austrian team just published in Molecular Metabolism issue 28 sept 2020:
Intact Vitamin A transport is critical for cold-mediated adipose tissue browning and thermogenesis.
Very interesting; It seems my feeling was right. Cold induces more RBP and helps get rid of retinoids towards the skin. A lot of this is way over my head but maybe it will interest @ggenereux2014. Any extra way to increase RBP would be a good idea I suppose.
So Bain Derivatif acts in two ways: creating more RBP and throwing the lymph into the intestines instead of towards the skin.
We are still doing it. It helps.
I need to try this out. Anyone doing it still?
Thank you for bringing this thread up @inger! Quite interesting. I love this kind of seemingly whacko knowledge! Got to polish my french a bit on some youtube videos as well. However, my son and I laughed ourselves half sick about this alternative health therapist inspired by a dog licking it's crotch to develop a new therapy based on it. But the fasciae connection makes the entire thing plausible. I would also like to know if anybody has tried this Bain's dérivatifs over a longer time frame. Experiences? Conclusions?
@inger and @ronn Sorry I did not answer immediately, I was away from any computer.
Yes we are still doing it, not all the time though as our life has beome much more adventurous recently, with lots of energy and new circumstances!
During the last 3 years, we did it with cold water about 1/3rd of the time. It really helps in the sense that we now have zero inflammation. It has become a part of our life. We do not do it in the months when we can swim in cold water. At the beginning there is a lot of poison coming out the the hair and nails too.
Before we met Grant's work, we kept on poisoning ourselves and the results were erratic and did not last. Now it is just a happy time, bains derivatifs really puts us in a happy sunny mood.