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A Painless Way to Detox : BAIN DERIVATIF
Quote from Ourania on June 6, 2020, 8:38 amThank you @rachel. Actually it seems that recently France Guillain has decided that most people are too toxic to use the water and friction method anymore, that it is too fast a detox. She had changed the Kuhne method to simply massaging in the folds of the groin.
Now she says that just using the bottle method, or using a cool pad in the underwear, is best. It might take a bit longer but the detox is softer. The pad should not be too cold.
For the first few days I did around 25 mins with water and 2-3 hours with a cool pad. It stopped some unpleasant VA detox feelings, but they have crept back! I think it detoxes different parts. So I decided to take it easy, today I stopped the water method and shall continue only with the cool pad.
I get very good results at expelling lymph together with poo. There must be some VA products in there. The volume is bigger to what I expel without Bains Derivatifs. I normally do not suffer from constipation at all.
@Jiří I think these patches of fat tissue in the skin might change into sebaceous warts at some point. I have the same on my legs on chest and they seem to become flatter. Maybe you are right and they are deposits of VA in the skin and we shall make them disappear.
Thank you @rachel. Actually it seems that recently France Guillain has decided that most people are too toxic to use the water and friction method anymore, that it is too fast a detox. She had changed the Kuhne method to simply massaging in the folds of the groin.
Now she says that just using the bottle method, or using a cool pad in the underwear, is best. It might take a bit longer but the detox is softer. The pad should not be too cold.
For the first few days I did around 25 mins with water and 2-3 hours with a cool pad. It stopped some unpleasant VA detox feelings, but they have crept back! I think it detoxes different parts. So I decided to take it easy, today I stopped the water method and shall continue only with the cool pad.
I get very good results at expelling lymph together with poo. There must be some VA products in there. The volume is bigger to what I expel without Bains Derivatifs. I normally do not suffer from constipation at all.
@Jiří I think these patches of fat tissue in the skin might change into sebaceous warts at some point. I have the same on my legs on chest and they seem to become flatter. Maybe you are right and they are deposits of VA in the skin and we shall make them disappear.
Quote from Ourania on June 20, 2020, 1:09 amWe have been doing this for three weeks now. Actually, mainly the bottle method about three hours a day. There is a big difference with life without Bains Derivatifs.
The general detox is less unpleasant.
We see that we are loosing lymph in the stools, which may mean that we expel more VA products.
Also there is a bonus: our appetite has gone down. We only eat about three quarters of what we ate before.
@jiri What about you? Did you go on?
We have been doing this for three weeks now. Actually, mainly the bottle method about three hours a day. There is a big difference with life without Bains Derivatifs.
The general detox is less unpleasant.
We see that we are loosing lymph in the stools, which may mean that we expel more VA products.
Also there is a bonus: our appetite has gone down. We only eat about three quarters of what we ate before.
@jiri What about you? Did you go on?
Quote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 1:50 am@ourania I do it every night for 30-40 minutes, but I don't see any changes. Nothing in stool or any other symptoms of detox or something..
@ourania I do it every night for 30-40 minutes, but I don't see any changes. Nothing in stool or any other symptoms of detox or something..
Quote from Ourania on June 20, 2020, 2:20 am@jiri We do have results. Maybe 40 mins is too short a time to see immediate results. Maybe something is happening but it is too subtle to notice immediately. On the other hand, not overdoing it maybe is best, not to exaggerate detox?
If we miss an evening next morning we have very dry mouth. So this is a definite sign.
We have been using pads like this, https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Reusable-Cold-Hot-Pack-with-Cover-1570-2-per-pack-10-packs-per-case/?N=5002385+3294752791&rt=rud
that we put in the freezer after use, and before use we wrap them up in a thin cotton towel. So we can just put the pads back in the freezer afterwards.
From what we feel, this is sending lymph away but also improves brown fat status, and has all the signs of supplementing with K2.
We feel better, maybe because of 6 months on the VA avoidance diet, but in general also. We have decided not to stop, because it costs nothing and goes in the same direction as VA avoidance.
Also, I may be an older person and a lady, but I have been an athlete all my life. I have done incredible things with the strength of my body, and this experience tells me when something is good in a special way. This Bains Derivatifs comes in the same category as when you make a great effort then come into another kind of strength. This is when you take your energy from the Universe, not from yourself only, when you fly past your opponent, when Time is not the same for you as it is for other people.
I think you understand what I mean. I think unfortunately many people never had the chance of knowing what power they can have, a power of love, when animals love you and you can eat them too, not because they are in your power, but because they help you live.
Sorry if I sound crazy! Anyway, it seems very positive for now. Especially very positive to clear brain fog, maybe acting more on the head.
@jiri We do have results. Maybe 40 mins is too short a time to see immediate results. Maybe something is happening but it is too subtle to notice immediately. On the other hand, not overdoing it maybe is best, not to exaggerate detox?
If we miss an evening next morning we have very dry mouth. So this is a definite sign.
We have been using pads like this, https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Reusable-Cold-Hot-Pack-with-Cover-1570-2-per-pack-10-packs-per-case/?N=5002385+3294752791&rt=rud
that we put in the freezer after use, and before use we wrap them up in a thin cotton towel. So we can just put the pads back in the freezer afterwards.
From what we feel, this is sending lymph away but also improves brown fat status, and has all the signs of supplementing with K2.
We feel better, maybe because of 6 months on the VA avoidance diet, but in general also. We have decided not to stop, because it costs nothing and goes in the same direction as VA avoidance.
Also, I may be an older person and a lady, but I have been an athlete all my life. I have done incredible things with the strength of my body, and this experience tells me when something is good in a special way. This Bains Derivatifs comes in the same category as when you make a great effort then come into another kind of strength. This is when you take your energy from the Universe, not from yourself only, when you fly past your opponent, when Time is not the same for you as it is for other people.
I think you understand what I mean. I think unfortunately many people never had the chance of knowing what power they can have, a power of love, when animals love you and you can eat them too, not because they are in your power, but because they help you live.
Sorry if I sound crazy! Anyway, it seems very positive for now. Especially very positive to clear brain fog, maybe acting more on the head.
Quote from Jiří on June 20, 2020, 3:14 am@ourania If I do it longer my genitals are completely numb and I don't wanna do more harm than good.. 3 hours at the time is crazy to me.. 🙂
@ourania If I do it longer my genitals are completely numb and I don't wanna do more harm than good.. 3 hours at the time is crazy to me.. 🙂
Quote from Ourania on June 20, 2020, 3:29 am@jiri, Maybe the pad is too cold and you should wrap it more. My husband pulls his testicules inside before doing it.
Anyway, just a bit of fresh does good.
Be well!
@jiri, Maybe the pad is too cold and you should wrap it more. My husband pulls his testicules inside before doing it.
Anyway, just a bit of fresh does good.
Be well!
Quote from lil chick on June 23, 2020, 10:41 amI've been meaning to post more on this thread. I've become more aware when I am feeling like my crotch needs cooling. haha
But really. It can be such a relief.
It reminds me of a thing I stumbled upon long ago. It was a website devoted to Ayurveda. On the website you could put in some of your symptoms and it would give you the ayurvedic diagnosis and ideas for diet change. Mine came out "RISING HEAT".
Inflammation can be experienced as heat. Perhaps the Hindi to English translation was difficult. Perhaps it meant I have rising levels of INFLAMMATION (which makes perfect sense as a VA toxic person). Rosacea feels hot and looks hot.
We can all probably remember times when inflamed areas actually DO feel HOT. You get a vaccination, and the whole of your upper arm is hot.
I'm thinking VA causes heat.
And I never could understand why some people benefit so much from icing hot areas. Why undo what the body is working so hard to achieve?
But then IF YOU ARE OVER-REACTING and producing TOO MUCH HEAT... perhaps then cooling can be beneficial. Sometimes icing a healing sprained ankle can help, for instance, when the swelling is too much.
Perhaps, (probably because this is the doorway OUT) the crotch area is plagued by a daily small amount of reabsorbed VA? Perhaps these areas start to suffer from long term over-heating, swelling of tissues?
So don your togas, people! It's gonna be a hot summer.
I've been meaning to post more on this thread. I've become more aware when I am feeling like my crotch needs cooling. haha
But really. It can be such a relief.
It reminds me of a thing I stumbled upon long ago. It was a website devoted to Ayurveda. On the website you could put in some of your symptoms and it would give you the ayurvedic diagnosis and ideas for diet change. Mine came out "RISING HEAT".
Inflammation can be experienced as heat. Perhaps the Hindi to English translation was difficult. Perhaps it meant I have rising levels of INFLAMMATION (which makes perfect sense as a VA toxic person). Rosacea feels hot and looks hot.
We can all probably remember times when inflamed areas actually DO feel HOT. You get a vaccination, and the whole of your upper arm is hot.
I'm thinking VA causes heat.
And I never could understand why some people benefit so much from icing hot areas. Why undo what the body is working so hard to achieve?
But then IF YOU ARE OVER-REACTING and producing TOO MUCH HEAT... perhaps then cooling can be beneficial. Sometimes icing a healing sprained ankle can help, for instance, when the swelling is too much.
Perhaps, (probably because this is the doorway OUT) the crotch area is plagued by a daily small amount of reabsorbed VA? Perhaps these areas start to suffer from long term over-heating, swelling of tissues?
So don your togas, people! It's gonna be a hot summer.
Quote from Jiří on June 23, 2020, 11:47 am@lil-chick I think you completely missed the purpose of cooling crotch.. 🙂 It is already described here. It should stimulate lymphatic vessels to recycle lymphatic fluid basically and very important point is that the whole body should be warm and relaxed. So when you cool down that crotch area where is a lot of lymph nodes. It will stimulate the whole lymphatic system.. Something like cold shower will not work, because that will cool down whole body. So whole body will constrict. Everything becomes more stagnant.. In case of inflammation I think you are right that vit A can cause systemic inflammation... Btw I think that the reason why people are icing for example sprained ankle because it feels good.. People always like to do what feels good even when it is bad for them.. Humans... 🙂
@lil-chick I think you completely missed the purpose of cooling crotch.. 🙂 It is already described here. It should stimulate lymphatic vessels to recycle lymphatic fluid basically and very important point is that the whole body should be warm and relaxed. So when you cool down that crotch area where is a lot of lymph nodes. It will stimulate the whole lymphatic system.. Something like cold shower will not work, because that will cool down whole body. So whole body will constrict. Everything becomes more stagnant.. In case of inflammation I think you are right that vit A can cause systemic inflammation... Btw I think that the reason why people are icing for example sprained ankle because it feels good.. People always like to do what feels good even when it is bad for them.. Humans... 🙂
Quote from lil chick on June 23, 2020, 12:33 pmI would posit that the swelling/heat/inflammation in the crotch area might be involved in symptoms discussed here like hemorrhoids, painful intercourse, UTI, bed wetting, menstrual cramping, penis size changes, ED and etc.
I guess it doesn't really matter if I've missed the point or gotten the point, I'm still gonna cool my crotch and suggest that others try it!
I would posit that the swelling/heat/inflammation in the crotch area might be involved in symptoms discussed here like hemorrhoids, painful intercourse, UTI, bed wetting, menstrual cramping, penis size changes, ED and etc.
I guess it doesn't really matter if I've missed the point or gotten the point, I'm still gonna cool my crotch and suggest that others try it!
Quote from Jiří on August 24, 2020, 12:37 am@ourania I didn't realize how important iodine is for keeping lympathic system clean. I take around 10mg a day now and I can feel my tonsils a lot and also tender left breast. Also a lot of mild headache, vertigo, nausea.. So it is doing something. It looks like I was low in iodine for some time. Especially when I consider my TSH high for decades and always low white blood cells.. Also for a woman it is a good idea to take 4-5mg a day for breast cancer prevention.. Iodine is needed for good estrogen metabolism. So All kinds of PMS, cysts etc.. it is most likely from high estrogen to progesterone ratio, high copper and low iodine and zinc.. Regular people who have a bad diet have very low iodine intake. But in Japan for example their intake is 10mg or more and woman seems to don't have any issues with breast cancer and other estrogen related health issues.. Same goes for man and prostate. My grandfather, father all prostate cancer. Issues with liver/high estrogen.. I don't think they had more than 100mcg of iodine a day in the diet. Basically none.. Good old lugol solution and couple drops a day is a good idea for everyone..
@ourania I didn't realize how important iodine is for keeping lympathic system clean. I take around 10mg a day now and I can feel my tonsils a lot and also tender left breast. Also a lot of mild headache, vertigo, nausea.. So it is doing something. It looks like I was low in iodine for some time. Especially when I consider my TSH high for decades and always low white blood cells.. Also for a woman it is a good idea to take 4-5mg a day for breast cancer prevention.. Iodine is needed for good estrogen metabolism. So All kinds of PMS, cysts etc.. it is most likely from high estrogen to progesterone ratio, high copper and low iodine and zinc.. Regular people who have a bad diet have very low iodine intake. But in Japan for example their intake is 10mg or more and woman seems to don't have any issues with breast cancer and other estrogen related health issues.. Same goes for man and prostate. My grandfather, father all prostate cancer. Issues with liver/high estrogen.. I don't think they had more than 100mcg of iodine a day in the diet. Basically none.. Good old lugol solution and couple drops a day is a good idea for everyone..