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Quote from Guest on November 29, 2018, 10:12 am
Red kidney beans, black beans, white kidney beans. They all give me VA symptoms. I find it very interesting that Grant didn't eat any beans during his first year on the diet.
Red kidney beans, black beans, white kidney beans. They all give me VA symptoms. I find it very interesting that Grant didn't eat any beans during his first year on the diet.
Quote from
ggenereux on November 29, 2018, 10:39 am
Dear Guest,
That’s correct. Beans were a later addition to my diet. I added them sometime after the first year. Early into my diet, and when I was still quite sick, I had serious IBS symptoms. Those IBS symptoms resolved by about the 4th month into my diet. So, it is possible that I did not have a problem with beans just because I added them to my diet after my gut was in better health. And, a few other people have reported that they cannot deal with beans, or even rice. Therefore, each person is going to need to tailor this diet to their own specific circumstances.
The primary reason that I added the beans in the first place was mostly because I felt they provided a good source of both fibre and calcium. However, to avoid any carotenoids, I have since stopped eating the red kidney beans. That was back in August of this year. I can’t really say if that change has made a difference or not to me. But, I continue to eat black beans.
Dear Guest,
That’s correct. Beans were a later addition to my diet. I added them sometime after the first year. Early into my diet, and when I was still quite sick, I had serious IBS symptoms. Those IBS symptoms resolved by about the 4th month into my diet. So, it is possible that I did not have a problem with beans just because I added them to my diet after my gut was in better health. And, a few other people have reported that they cannot deal with beans, or even rice. Therefore, each person is going to need to tailor this diet to their own specific circumstances.
The primary reason that I added the beans in the first place was mostly because I felt they provided a good source of both fibre and calcium. However, to avoid any carotenoids, I have since stopped eating the red kidney beans. That was back in August of this year. I can’t really say if that change has made a difference or not to me. But, I continue to eat black beans.
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Quote from Guest on November 29, 2018, 1:00 pm
I'm not talking about digestive problems, I'm talking about the same effects I get from eating liver or taking a vitamin a supplement, although weaker of course. Blurred vision, joint pain, brain fog.
If you didn't feel any different from stopping the red kidney beans it sounds to me like you're pretty much cured, that you're not hypersensitive anymore, those have a ton of carotenoids. What makes you think black beans have no carotenoids anyways? I've tried to find studies analyzing the carotenoid content of the black bean but I've yet to find a single one.
I'm not talking about digestive problems, I'm talking about the same effects I get from eating liver or taking a vitamin a supplement, although weaker of course. Blurred vision, joint pain, brain fog.
If you didn't feel any different from stopping the red kidney beans it sounds to me like you're pretty much cured, that you're not hypersensitive anymore, those have a ton of carotenoids. What makes you think black beans have no carotenoids anyways? I've tried to find studies analyzing the carotenoid content of the black bean but I've yet to find a single one.
Quote from
Bella on November 29, 2018, 3:23 pm
I really enjoy pinto beans and great northern beans but I can't find any data showing A or carotene content. I couldn't find anything indicating kidney beans have carotenoids either. I believe they probably do but I just can't find anything to back up the claim. It would be great to know where the person that informed Grant got that information.
I really enjoy pinto beans and great northern beans but I can't find any data showing A or carotene content. I couldn't find anything indicating kidney beans have carotenoids either. I believe they probably do but I just can't find anything to back up the claim. It would be great to know where the person that informed Grant got that information.
Quote from
ggenereux on November 29, 2018, 10:39 am
Dear Guest,
That’s correct. Beans were a later addition to my diet. I added them sometime after the first year. Early into my diet, and when I was still quite sick, I had serious IBS symptoms. Those IBS symptoms resolved by about the 4th month into my diet. So, it is possible that I did not have a problem with beans just because I added them to my diet after my gut was in better health. And, a few other people have reported that they cannot deal with beans, or even rice. Therefore, each person is going to need to tailor this diet to their own specific circumstances.
The primary reason that I added the beans in the first place was mostly because I felt they provided a good source of both fibre and calcium. However, to avoid any carotenoids, I have since stopped eating the red kidney beans. That was back in August of this year. I can’t really say if that change has made a difference or not to me. But, I continue to eat black beans.
Grant, where you sensitive to FODMAPS as well? Thank you!
Quote from
ggenereux on November 29, 2018, 10:39 am
Dear Guest,
That’s correct. Beans were a later addition to my diet. I added them sometime after the first year. Early into my diet, and when I was still quite sick, I had serious IBS symptoms. Those IBS symptoms resolved by about the 4th month into my diet. So, it is possible that I did not have a problem with beans just because I added them to my diet after my gut was in better health. And, a few other people have reported that they cannot deal with beans, or even rice. Therefore, each person is going to need to tailor this diet to their own specific circumstances.
The primary reason that I added the beans in the first place was mostly because I felt they provided a good source of both fibre and calcium. However, to avoid any carotenoids, I have since stopped eating the red kidney beans. That was back in August of this year. I can’t really say if that change has made a difference or not to me. But, I continue to eat black beans.
Grant, where you sensitive to FODMAPS as well? Thank you!
Quote from
ggenereux on November 29, 2018, 4:54 pm
Hello Doublecapricorn,
No, I've had no problem at all with the FODMAPS.
Hello Doublecapricorn,
No, I've had no problem at all with the FODMAPS.
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Thank you Grant for your response.
Thank you Grant for your response.
Quote from Guest on November 29, 2018, 6:34 pm
Quote from Bella on November 29, 2018, 3:23 pm
I really enjoy pinto beans and great northern beans but I can't find any data showing A or carotene content. I couldn't find anything indicating kidney beans have carotenoids either. I believe they probably do but I just can't find anything to back up the claim. It would be great to know where the person that informed Grant got that information.
According to this study red kidney beans has at least about 1300 IUs of betacarotene per 100g. White kidney beans has the least of all the beans tested in this study, about 10-40 IUs per 100g.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29699675
You can read the full study on scihub
Quote from Bella on November 29, 2018, 3:23 pm
I really enjoy pinto beans and great northern beans but I can't find any data showing A or carotene content. I couldn't find anything indicating kidney beans have carotenoids either. I believe they probably do but I just can't find anything to back up the claim. It would be great to know where the person that informed Grant got that information.
According to this study red kidney beans has at least about 1300 IUs of betacarotene per 100g. White kidney beans has the least of all the beans tested in this study, about 10-40 IUs per 100g.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29699675
You can read the full study on scihub
Quote from
DWL on November 29, 2018, 6:59 pm
In --Bowes & Church's food values of portions commonly used--
18th edition (2005), I found only these two low/no Vitamin A foods that were also listed in the Carotenoids' category.
Pinto beans--beta carotene --26 mcg/100 g
Raw while potatoes with skin--beta carotene--6 mcg/100 g
DS (DWL)
In --Bowes & Church's food values of portions commonly used--
18th edition (2005), I found only these two low/no Vitamin A foods that were also listed in the Carotenoids' category.
Pinto beans--beta carotene --26 mcg/100 g
Raw while potatoes with skin--beta carotene--6 mcg/100 g
DS (DWL)
Quote from Guest on November 29, 2018, 7:19 pm
Quote from DWL on November 29, 2018, 6:59 pm
In --Bowes & Church's food values of portions commonly used--
18th edition (2005), I found only these two low/no Vitamin A foods that were also listed in the Carotenoids' category.
Pinto beans--beta carotene --26 mcg/100 g
Raw while potatoes with skin--beta carotene--6 mcg/100 g
DS (DWL)
While on the subject of potatoes, I saw a Swedish study that said the beta-carotene content can vary quite a lot. Less than 2 IUs per 100g vs over 50 IUs per 100g.
Page 43 and onwards: https://www.livsmedelsverket.se/globalassets/publikationsdatabas/rapporter/2010/potatis---analys-av-naringsamnen-rapport-19-2010.pdf
Quote from DWL on November 29, 2018, 6:59 pm
In --Bowes & Church's food values of portions commonly used--
18th edition (2005), I found only these two low/no Vitamin A foods that were also listed in the Carotenoids' category.
Pinto beans--beta carotene --26 mcg/100 g
Raw while potatoes with skin--beta carotene--6 mcg/100 g
DS (DWL)
While on the subject of potatoes, I saw a Swedish study that said the beta-carotene content can vary quite a lot. Less than 2 IUs per 100g vs over 50 IUs per 100g.
Page 43 and onwards: https://www.livsmedelsverket.se/globalassets/publikationsdatabas/rapporter/2010/potatis---analys-av-naringsamnen-rapport-19-2010.pdf
