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@daniil, good to hear that your healing is in progress. All the deep cracks we got in childhood- we need to repair them with gold and make them beautiful as in the Japanese art of kintsugi. 

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@beata-2 I would love to send 5 stars to your post! Wishing you the best!

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@ourania, thank you, my Friend. ❤️

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@daniil How are you doing now? Any good news to share?

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So, I haven't been on this forum for a long time... What happened? What happened was that I followed a low-vitamin A diet for a year and really saw improvements, and then at some point in time I had a psychosis, and then another psychosis. And between the psychoses there was such a nasty condition that is probably not described in medicine and can be described as "impatience", which was even worse than psychosis. And I'm no longer following a low-vitamin A diet. I do not know if my psychosis is caused by vitamin A deficiency or PUFA. As far as I know, psychosis is not a symptom of vitamin A deficiency. Perhaps it is a coincidence that I have schizophrenia, but it is suspicious. Anyway, a low-vA diet for a year or 1.5 years (I don't remember exactly) didn't protect me from this condition. Yes, there are probably people here who will say that this psychosis was just a symptom of vA detoxification, but in that case, I have bad news for this forum, because vA detoxification may turn out to be worse for you than anything that happened before (as happened with me). So much so that you wonder if it was worth starting a detox. Now I've stopped being interested in conspiracy theory and just adhere to generally accepted scientific dietary recommendations (I don't eat sugar, I try to get a lot of vitamins, minerals and fiber from whole grains, etc.). I feel relatively normal now, there is a bit of fatigue and a bit of ADHD. Regarding diets that deplete something (PUFA, vA), I would not recommend them to people right now. And if you decide to stick with it, then from time to time you need to carefully compare your symptoms with those of a shortage on the Internet. Probably just not exceeding the RDA is a good idea, that's what I'm thinking right now. The only thing I've learned from this forum is that I will never take vitamin A supplements again (away from potential risks). There should be enough food.

By the way, are there people here who have been exhausting PUFA for a long time (years)? I really need to talk to them.

PS I've become religious since then and I can't understand why people on this and other forums don't say that if you want to stop getting sick, then first of all you need to stop sinning elementary? By the way, like most citizens of my country, I converted to Orthodoxy. And the Orthodox Saint Porfiry Kavsokalivit said that vitamin A is useful, which for me, as a religious person, is a strong argument against Grant's theory. Could it be that Grant recovered not because of vA's exclusion, but because of an overall healthy diet of organic meat and beans?

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Hi @daniil good to hear from you again.   I'm so sorry that you have had a hard time.    I hope you feel much better.

I think you are right that detoxing vitamin A can be a very harsh thing and there may be hell to pay.   I have often thought that was why it was so hard to lose weight, because the body is very content to let "sleeping dogs lie" and the fat is where we store naughty things.   In fact, I'm perfectly content to say that we may even put on fat in which to store bad things.    

I've often wondered why dogs and cats who go through homelessness and starvation don't just get better as soon as they find their way to shelter.   I think opening up fat cells to survive can be a trip to toxin land.   My little rescued cat is not in very good health.

I knew a woman with schizophrenia and she was always trying to live on cigarettes and tea.   Are you getting enough calories?

Are you sleeping ok?   

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Hello, @lil-chick. I'm also very glad to hear from you after all this time!

Now I'm trying to do calorie restriction because medical science says it's healthy (autophagy) and I have a little problem with being overweight. But when I had a psychosis, I was getting enough calories. I sleep normally (and get enough sleep). I quit cigarettes, I drink coffee instead of tea as before.

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@daniil Hard to tell what was going on if you don't give us any info. Like what was your diet before you developed those issues. What supplements, what was going on in your life etc.. So many factors..

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The brain...I had loads of very bad headaches pre Grant... one of the known problems with Vitamin A toxicity is that it can cause cranial swelling.   These headaches petered out slowly.  (over 18 months)   I think these headaches were not just affected by VA but anything that detoxed in the same pathway (for instance alcohol).

I have always been moderate and never extremely low-VA like Grant.  Slow and steady for me.

You know, I've seen "chubby emu" (video blogger who talks a lot about poisoning) talk about how it isn't a good thing for brain swelling to reduce too quickly.   

This notion might have nothing to do with your case, but it might be a good reason for all diet and health changes to be moderate.   In fact, I regret a lot of my health experiments that have taken me away from moderation and tradition.

One of our good posters (I won't mention her name because she doesn't like to be called out) had two seizures while she was very low-VA.

I think that my headaches and chronic vomiting were about what I call "acute" poisoning (vs long term).    I think that most people can avoid "acute" symptoms just by never giving the body more VA at one sitting that it can handle.     I think things like unhappy yellow teeth, too much visceral fat, auto-immunity are more "long term" poisoning.   I think long-term poisoning happens when your body has more VA at one sitting than it can handle and socks VA away.

Getting rid of those long-term stores isn't an easy thing, and we only have so much time on this planet.    IMO, getting rid of *stored* VA at the slow pace of glaciers is probably best.    The VA that comes out of storage adds to your daily load.

I sometimes wonder if Grant, with his full-body eczema, actually had been getting rid of a lot of VA before going low-VA (not fun, but perhaps the rashes were working).   Maybe my chronic vomiting (though no fun) actually helped me.

I hope this recent problem is now in the rear-view mirror for you! 

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@jiri For the first psychosis, all the information on supplements that I left in this topic is relevant. For the second one, I was sticking to the RDA for vitamin A at the time, gave up all supplements, and tried to stick to PUFA exhaustion. As for my lifestyle, the only thing I can say is that both of my psychoses were related to moving. But there was no stress in my life.

When I was impatient, I stuck to exhaustion vA and PUFA. There was no stress, except for the disease itself, and nothing much happened in life.

Before the second psychosis, I ate mostly rice, bread, kefir, beets, carrots, eggs, coffee. During impatience, I ate peas, rice, meat, milk, cookies, coffee.
And I didn't drink antipsychotics before either the first or the second psychosis.

And I didn't take antipsychotics before either the first or the second psychosis.

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