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do we really need vitamin K2
@r-2 it can be from low copper as copper is needed for collagen synthesis or it can be to much zinc. Zinc can also lower sodium. Do you feel dry, dehydrated? I would stop beef or any red meat like turkey thighs they are also high in zinc and eat more copper rich foods like cashews, red lentils or any grains, pseudo grains, legumes... In terms of B vitamins. Small dose B complex can't hurt you and will fix any deficiency..
Yes I also suspected high Zinc , and Zinc Toxicity manifests in lack of copper . Thats what you suggested as well looking at the cronometer content of oatmeal/granola diet . So to verify I brought a cheated copper supplement ( 3mg copper ) , I took it for few days and it made no difference . So I dont know if thats the case , but possibly could be. Zinc takes time to leave body . I also I have been observing since I stopped eating red meat , my libido is off the roof . This sounds stupid , but to get rid of excess zinc I am trying to mastrubate often . Could that be also a sign of high zinc .
Yes, during initial days when my symptoms started appearing, I used to feel dry and dehydrated like dry eyes at night , but now thats gone .
It surely its a deficiency in B vitamins , I took a high dose of thaimine and that didnt help either , but as a precautionary measure yes I am taking a very small dose ( 2 MG each) B complex everyday .
I ruled out uric acid as well , my levels were at 4.9 MG/DL, as of now I have given up on meat completely . I will do that for couple of months .
And surprisingly my bean absorption has tremendously gotten better ,My stools are solid , they used to be bit loose on beans . But now they are better . Thanks to magnesium maybe ?
Could protein be toxic at high doses , well I wasn't consuming like lots and lots of red meat a day , but it was like 400gms of beef and 300-400 gm of chicken . I dont think thats too much
@r-2 Well taking copper for 3 days will not do much that's for sure. If you depleted your copper it takes at least months to build up mineral like this in your body. Taking copper in supplement form can be dangerous. Like I said I would just switch zinc to copper ratio for some time with food. Masturbating a lot is maybe the worst thing that you can do when you have chronic fatigue. When you ejaculating a lot you are forcing your body to work hard produce new sperm instead of rebuilding your body + you will have elevated prolactin which is also not good. I think you just should up your copper intake from food. Not deplete your zinc.. Your body will deplete zinc(if it's high) anyway.
@jiri Thank you , I will try to stick with diet for 3-4 months , but for sure I am seeing changes .
Also I wanted to ask you , I see people talk about white potatoes here . The only two type potatoes I see everywhere are the sweet potatoes and the conventional potatoes , the conventions potatoes that I eat are bit yellowish in color from inside . are these the potatoes I am supposed to have ? Just want to verify so that I am not ingesting wrong food mistakenly
I try NOT to buy the yellowish regular potatoes, to me, NOW... they do taste different. The kind I usually buy now are "russet" which are brown on the outside and white inside. Lately, I tried some red and they WERE yellow-ish on the inside.
Blue versions of veggies are also interesting, and I think blue potatoes might be ok.
All peeled of course
[UPDATE]
I tried to see if it was Zinc , but turned out it wasnt . I took Zinc 50 Mg a night before to see if I react bad on it . But actually it made me feel better next morning . So I am sure it isnt Zinc or copper deficiency . I ruled both of them out .
Next day I was feeling good , and for dinner I cooked rice , potatoes but this time with 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg . Immediately after having egg whites I started feeling pain in my hands/legs and fatigue . So It made me wonder certainly there must be something in the eggs that is actually making my symptoms worse , which could be the cause of real issue issue. Also I as mentioned earlier meat/chicken also makes me feel worse . I went on cronometer to see whats so high in eggs and meat and I was able to make the connection , its must be SELENIUM .
Now I am not fully sure yet , but I opted for a serum SE test and results will come back after 1 week (
In the mean time do you guys know how to reduce selenium levels , is there any selenium cheating agents ?. for now I have given up on selenium consisting foods , mostly eat rice , beans , potatoes, bananas and little bit of milk .
I've been experiencing pain in the joints of my thumb and index finger recently. Probably a couple of months now. It's more of a niggle but it has persisted. I am on an pretty limited diet. My main diet is beef, potato, oats and aduki beans. Some mushrooms. I have a little chicken, stewed apple and occasionally some banana.
I suspect the oats. I had them when I first went low VA in spring 2019, then took them out in the summer. I added them back in earlier this year, I don't think I noted it down but early on in the year. I've been having 100g per day dried weight for at 3 - 4 months.
I have stopped the oats this week and am waiting to see if that solves the problem.
Excess iron can also cause joint pain in the hands (and elsewhere), it is sometimes called iron fist. I do have haemochromatosis so there is an outside chance it is due to that. I don't believe it is though because I was diagnosed early before my ferritin went way high (some people have ferritin in the 1000's before they are diagnosed) and my iron levels are well managed and kept lower than many people without haemochromatosis.
Hmm interesting , my blood gb level came as 15.3 on a scale of 13-17 . So Iron is not a suspect in my case . I have been having 6 egg whites for a long time now , more than a year . Though it definitely helped in VA detox ( due to Riboflavin present in eggs) , but I think adding a lot og beef and chicken has certainly given me selenuim toxicity ( damn one more shit to deal with now apart from VA ) , but still I cant say anything till the test results come . I wanted to give brazil nuts a try to see if they make me feel a lot worse , as they are very high in selenium , but I was bit afraid . May be I will give it a try .
Also I read somewhere that low selenium is a cause for Iron overload , so you might want to give selenium Selenium test a try .
Selenium Deficiency as a Cause of Overload of Iron and Unbalanced Distribution of Other Minerals
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7766029/
@jiri
I think if I actually have Selenium toxicity , iron supplement might act as a cheating agent for me . I tihnk Thats why I was feeling better after having that cereal, because it was fortified with iron ( https://www.sanitarium.co.nz/products/cereals/light-n-tasty/golden-almond-crunch-with-coconut#3) . But I will wait for the test results to come to be sure
@r-2 That's interesting about selenium. Thanks I shall look into it. I am hoping to work with Garrett Smith soon and will get testing done then if I go ahead. I wouldn't be surprised if I had mineral deficiencies because I have only recently been able to add beans which have improved my mineral intake and have had pretty bad gut problems for several years. I think I've read that selenium is important for VA detox and so presumably we have a higher need for it when detoxing.
Haemoglobin is not a good indicator for iron overload. It can get pretty confusing as there are so many tests measuring different aspects of iron metabolism. I'm not suggesting you do have high iron, only that Hb is not a suitable test to pick it up so a normal Hb does not rule out iron overload. People with haemochromatosis usually have normal Hb levels. Hb just shows that you have enough iron to make haemoglobin. Your body doesn't usually make excess haemaglobin when it has excess iron available. Any excess iron is basically stuffed in your liver and tissues. Serum ferritin and transferrin saturation (amount of iron bound to transferrin) are more helpful tests. They are the ones used to manage my condition. I only mentioned the iron as for me it is a possibility in causing the joint pain. Hope I didn't confuse the issue. 🙂