@tobias-2 Do you realize that there are people doing low vit A for years and have serum retinol in "ref. range" ? This idea that you have to consume high vit A foods all the time(like Paul Saladino is recommending for example)to not end up deficient within couple of months is simply not true. I think there is plenty of people now who proved this.. According to mainstream medical system Grant should be dead or at least crippled and blind by now. Meanwhile he is doing better than majority of people in his age and I am not even talking about how he fixed his skin issues and kidney issues.. For now I think that we do need some vit A, but like I said we need much smaller amounts. Same with copper same with iron and other stuff that is simply not easily depleted like electrolytes, zinc, vit C, B vitamins etc..
You are right that it is about balance. But the question is what is that balance for each individual who has completely different genetics, lifestyle etc.. It is obvious that some people like Paul Saladino for example can handle a lot and some will end up with issues even with RDA or even less.. So how do you know how much you need to not end up with chronic issues. Because let's be honest you have micronutrients like magnesium, zinc etc. where we know how much good stuff it does in the body. Can you say that about vit A? You could come up with like 1-2 questionable uses of vit A and on the other hand we all know here what are the downsides of chronic vit A toxicity and how long it takes to fix at least some of it. So I really struggle why you choose to fight for this "vitamin" specifically heh..
@tobias-2 Do you realize that there are people doing low vit A for years and have serum retinol in "ref. range" ? This idea that you have to consume high vit A foods all the time(like Paul Saladino is recommending for example)to not end up deficient within couple of months is simply not true. I think there is plenty of people now who proved this.. According to mainstream medical system Grant should be dead or at least crippled and blind by now. Meanwhile he is doing better than majority of people in his age and I am not even talking about how he fixed his skin issues and kidney issues.. For now I think that we do need some vit A, but like I said we need much smaller amounts. Same with copper same with iron and other stuff that is simply not easily depleted like electrolytes, zinc, vit C, B vitamins etc..
You are right that it is about balance. But the question is what is that balance for each individual who has completely different genetics, lifestyle etc.. It is obvious that some people like Paul Saladino for example can handle a lot and some will end up with issues even with RDA or even less.. So how do you know how much you need to not end up with chronic issues. Because let's be honest you have micronutrients like magnesium, zinc etc. where we know how much good stuff it does in the body. Can you say that about vit A? You could come up with like 1-2 questionable uses of vit A and on the other hand we all know here what are the downsides of chronic vit A toxicity and how long it takes to fix at least some of it. So I really struggle why you choose to fight for this "vitamin" specifically heh..
You do realise that you embraced this theory off a book that included no mention whatsoever of retinol depletion during infection and inflammation as part of a key factor for immune response? The explanation you got was "once accumulated you can not get rid of it".
I just wrote you a scientific article explaining the complexity of vitamin a, balancing both the risks and the benefits.
You might get by several years if your retinol storage level is maxed out or even overloaded. But once you get sick - infection or retonic acid signaling system activation from vaccines - you might not get by so well if you continue in the same tracks. It is also proven that retinol is essential for brain growth - hippocampus and nervous system. I would not paint this topic in either black or white - which is why I wrote this article. It's up to you if you want to listen and learn from it.
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You do realise that you embraced this theory off a book that included no mention whatsoever of retinol depletion during infection and inflammation as part of a key factor for immune response? The explanation you got was "once accumulated you can not get rid of it".
I just wrote you a scientific article explaining the complexity of vitamin a, balancing both the risks and the benefits.
You might get by several years if your retinol storage level is maxed out or even overloaded. But once you get sick - infection or retonic acid signaling system activation from vaccines - you might not get by so well if you continue in the same tracks. It is also proven that retinol is essential for brain growth - hippocampus and nervous system. I would not paint this topic in either black or white - which is why I wrote this article. It's up to you if you want to listen and learn from it.
@tobias-2 I didn't say you can't get rid of it. You can, but it is very slow. It is not like you have overdosed on zinc you stop and you are good in couple of weeks..
So how much you recommend. How can people know if they are taking too much and not accumulating excess? Because like I said you feel ok until you don't and that is already to late.. I do wonder if I should or shouldn't add some retinol back in after 8 years of low A diet. But how do I know. Just serum retinol test?
@tobias-2 I didn't say you can't get rid of it. You can, but it is very slow. It is not like you have overdosed on zinc you stop and you are good in couple of weeks..
So how much you recommend. How can people know if they are taking too much and not accumulating excess? Because like I said you feel ok until you don't and that is already to late.. I do wonder if I should or shouldn't add some retinol back in after 8 years of low A diet. But how do I know. Just serum retinol test?
It's not very slow. It's more rapid during inflammation and infection - which is why it's a key component for the immune system. I'm getting the feeling you need to read my article again. And slowly, to take it all in - what Im actually saying. If you want to know the level of retinol in your liver you need to do that test. Blood tests are useless. The liver tests costs a few hundred dollars. Also, I can't give you advice on dietary needs. I can only tell you that for me and my kids - we will continue eating liver, maybe once a month - maybe more if weve gone through some type of infection to store up on retinol. Besides liver we eat pleny of natural fats - butter, everyday. 🙂
It's not very slow. It's more rapid during inflammation and infection - which is why it's a key component for the immune system. I'm getting the feeling you need to read my article again. And slowly, to take it all in - what Im actually saying. If you want to know the level of retinol in your liver you need to do that test. Blood tests are useless. The liver tests costs a few hundred dollars. Also, I can't give you advice on dietary needs. I can only tell you that for me and my kids - we will continue eating liver, maybe once a month - maybe more if weve gone through some type of infection to store up on retinol. Besides liver we eat pleny of natural fats - butter, everyday. 🙂
@tobias-2 I didn't say you can't get rid of it. You can, but it is very slow. It is not like you have overdosed on zinc you stop and you are good in couple of weeks..
So how much you recommend. How can people know if they are taking too much and not accumulating excess? Because like I said you feel ok until you don't and that is already to late.. I do wonder if I should or shouldn't add some retinol back in after 8 years of low A diet. But how do I know. Just serum retinol test?
I can tell you as much: If you took the covid vaccines - you are most likely low on retinol. But don't take my word for it - do the liver test.
If you took them and have experienced a downgrade health wise there might be your aswer.
The reason I'm saying this is I have extensivle studied the side effects from these vaccines and met a lot of people that generated auto immune diseases after taking them. I have made a documentary about this. I have it in english subs if you want to see it. Once I read about vitamin A i started connecting the dots.
@tobias-2 I didn't say you can't get rid of it. You can, but it is very slow. It is not like you have overdosed on zinc you stop and you are good in couple of weeks..
So how much you recommend. How can people know if they are taking too much and not accumulating excess? Because like I said you feel ok until you don't and that is already to late.. I do wonder if I should or shouldn't add some retinol back in after 8 years of low A diet. But how do I know. Just serum retinol test?
I can tell you as much: If you took the covid vaccines - you are most likely low on retinol. But don't take my word for it - do the liver test.
If you took them and have experienced a downgrade health wise there might be your aswer.
The reason I'm saying this is I have extensivle studied the side effects from these vaccines and met a lot of people that generated auto immune diseases after taking them. I have made a documentary about this. I have it in english subs if you want to see it. Once I read about vitamin A i started connecting the dots.
I am covid vaccine injured and had my blood vitamin a levels checked (after 2 1/2 years) and were told they were normal. I have not checked retinoic acid or vitamin a in the tissues - I would probably have to get it done privately.
I am covid vaccine injured and had my blood vitamin a levels checked (after 2 1/2 years) and were told they were normal. I have not checked retinoic acid or vitamin a in the tissues - I would probably have to get it done privately.
I am covid vaccine injured and had my blood vitamin a levels checked (after 2 1/2 years) and were told they were normal. I have not checked retinoic acid or vitamin a in the tissues - I would probably have to get it done privately.
Regular blood tests wont do the job.
2️⃣ Relative dose–response test (RDR test)
This test indirectly assesses liver vitamin A stores.
How it works: Give an oral dose of retinol (usually 5,000 IU or 1.5 mg). After 5 hours, measure serum retinol.
Interpretation:
If serum retinol rises significantly (usually ≥20% increase), it suggests depleted liver stores — because retinol-binding protein is upregulated when stores are low, so newly absorbed retinol quickly raises serum levels.
3️⃣ Modified relative dose–response (MRDR) test
Measures the ratio of retinol to dehydroretinol after a vitamin A dose.
Primarily used in research and public health studies.
4️⃣ Liver biopsy (direct measurement)
The only true direct way to measure liver vitamin A stores quantitatively.
Not routinely done due to its invasiveness.
These are some of the more accurate tests. I know only privae clinics do them and like you said, they are quite costly but worth it to get to the bottom of it.
I am currently waiting for vaccine injured to test my theory.
I am covid vaccine injured and had my blood vitamin a levels checked (after 2 1/2 years) and were told they were normal. I have not checked retinoic acid or vitamin a in the tissues - I would probably have to get it done privately.
Regular blood tests wont do the job.
2️⃣ Relative dose–response test (RDR test)
This test indirectly assesses liver vitamin A stores.
How it works: Give an oral dose of retinol (usually 5,000 IU or 1.5 mg). After 5 hours, measure serum retinol.
Interpretation:
If serum retinol rises significantly (usually ≥20% increase), it suggests depleted liver stores — because retinol-binding protein is upregulated when stores are low, so newly absorbed retinol quickly raises serum levels.
3️⃣ Modified relative dose–response (MRDR) test
Measures the ratio of retinol to dehydroretinol after a vitamin A dose.
Primarily used in research and public health studies.
4️⃣ Liver biopsy (direct measurement)
The only true direct way to measure liver vitamin A stores quantitatively.
Not routinely done due to its invasiveness.
These are some of the more accurate tests. I know only privae clinics do them and like you said, they are quite costly but worth it to get to the bottom of it.
I am currently waiting for vaccine injured to test my theory.
