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Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 4:43 pm
Beef tallow is white, has zero fat soluble vitamins in it(and zero carotenes). Also, butter has retinol, not beta-carotene. Just don't want anyone reading this and getting misinformation, no offense.
Beef tallow is white, has zero fat soluble vitamins in it(and zero carotenes). Also, butter has retinol, not beta-carotene. Just don't want anyone reading this and getting misinformation, no offense.
Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 8:34 pm
I think beef tallow is ok as far as VA is concerned
I think beef tallow is ok as far as VA is concerned
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YH on December 13, 2018, 9:23 pm
Beef tallow is questionable, and depends on the source. Steaks from dairy cows that are slaughtered have a yellow, almost buttery fat to them. Also, cows in the US are injected with Vitamin A. This vitamin A will likely end up in fatty tissue. Grass fed beef might even be worse, as the fat is richer in Vitamin A. Conventional might be safer.
Ghee is interesting, but most people likely experiment with the wrong kind. The ghee used should be from water buffalo rather than cow. Indians typically reserve cow ghee for finishing dishes as the flavor is very strong. Cow ghee is very potent and yellow. Water buffalo ghee is used in everyday cooking and frying. Buffalo ghee is also white in color.
Beef tallow is questionable, and depends on the source. Steaks from dairy cows that are slaughtered have a yellow, almost buttery fat to them. Also, cows in the US are injected with Vitamin A. This vitamin A will likely end up in fatty tissue. Grass fed beef might even be worse, as the fat is richer in Vitamin A. Conventional might be safer.
Ghee is interesting, but most people likely experiment with the wrong kind. The ghee used should be from water buffalo rather than cow. Indians typically reserve cow ghee for finishing dishes as the flavor is very strong. Cow ghee is very potent and yellow. Water buffalo ghee is used in everyday cooking and frying. Buffalo ghee is also white in color.
Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 9:56 pm
In all due respects, I appreciate your sharing the excellent info on fats, but in my busy household, we must use an easy item to acquire and use. Grant did well on olive oil; will use it in my "experiment".
In all due respects, I appreciate your sharing the excellent info on fats, but in my busy household, we must use an easy item to acquire and use. Grant did well on olive oil; will use it in my "experiment".
Quote from Guest on December 14, 2018, 12:58 am
Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 4:43 pm
Beef tallow is white, has zero fat soluble vitamins in it(and zero carotenes). Also, butter has retinol, not beta-carotene. Just don't want anyone reading this and getting misinformation, no offense.
If you're correcting someone you should probably make sure you are correct first. Butter has both retinol and beta-carotene, just like every other beef product. Cows eating grass have much more carotenoids in the meat/fat than grainfed cows, some batches of tallow have a yellow tint, almost like butter.
Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 4:43 pm
Beef tallow is white, has zero fat soluble vitamins in it(and zero carotenes). Also, butter has retinol, not beta-carotene. Just don't want anyone reading this and getting misinformation, no offense.
If you're correcting someone you should probably make sure you are correct first. Butter has both retinol and beta-carotene, just like every other beef product. Cows eating grass have much more carotenoids in the meat/fat than grainfed cows, some batches of tallow have a yellow tint, almost like butter.
What is everyone's thoughts on supplementing with fish oil for DHA? I contacted the company I purchased from (before I came across this website) and they stated there is hardly any Vitamin A in their product. If not fish oil, what you recommend for DHA? Thank you!
What is everyone's thoughts on supplementing with fish oil for DHA? I contacted the company I purchased from (before I came across this website) and they stated there is hardly any Vitamin A in their product. If not fish oil, what you recommend for DHA? Thank you!
Quote from Guest on December 15, 2018, 11:27 am
Butter increases absorption of beta-carotene even more than peanut oil and olive oil https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814616319951
Butter increases absorption of beta-carotene even more than peanut oil and olive oil https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814616319951
Quote from Guest on December 15, 2018, 11:50 am
Quote from Doublecapricorn on December 14, 2018, 6:20 am
What is everyone's thoughts on supplementing with fish oil for DHA? I contacted the company I purchased from (before I came across this website) and they stated there is hardly any Vitamin A in their product. If not fish oil, what you recommend for DHA? Thank you!
"Many plant-based foods have ALA. ALA is a very important omega-3 fatty acid; when it is consumed, a small part of it is converted into DHA and EPA. Few vegan foods have enough EPA and DHA to meet your daily recommended amounts. However, there are two vegan-friendly foods that are good sources of omega-3."
Sunflower seeds are high in ALA which at least a little should be converted. Beef also has ALA. I am sure there are more sources of high ALA foods that are low in vA (wheat?) though most articles say this won't contribute enough. Like much nutritional advice out there being incorrect, perhaps it is wrong that we need much DHA. The Anderson parents only eat beef and they seem healthy. It is suspected that the kids only eat beef too but since the parents don't want to get in trouble, they don't state what the kids eat.
Quote from Doublecapricorn on December 14, 2018, 6:20 am
What is everyone's thoughts on supplementing with fish oil for DHA? I contacted the company I purchased from (before I came across this website) and they stated there is hardly any Vitamin A in their product. If not fish oil, what you recommend for DHA? Thank you!
"Many plant-based foods have ALA. ALA is a very important omega-3 fatty acid; when it is consumed, a small part of it is converted into DHA and EPA. Few vegan foods have enough EPA and DHA to meet your daily recommended amounts. However, there are two vegan-friendly foods that are good sources of omega-3."
Sunflower seeds are high in ALA which at least a little should be converted. Beef also has ALA. I am sure there are more sources of high ALA foods that are low in vA (wheat?) though most articles say this won't contribute enough. Like much nutritional advice out there being incorrect, perhaps it is wrong that we need much DHA. The Anderson parents only eat beef and they seem healthy. It is suspected that the kids only eat beef too but since the parents don't want to get in trouble, they don't state what the kids eat.
Quote from Guest on December 15, 2018, 11:55 am
Addition to the above statement I made - this article says the Andersons only eat ribeyes including the kids. https://thenortheasttoday.com/archive/anderson-family-on-meat-diet-for-17-years/
Addition to the above statement I made - this article says the Andersons only eat ribeyes including the kids. https://thenortheasttoday.com/archive/anderson-family-on-meat-diet-for-17-years/
Quote from Guest on December 15, 2018, 12:09 pm
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Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 4:43 pm
Beef tallow is white, has zero fat soluble vitamins in it(and zero carotenes). Also, butter has retinol, not beta-carotene. Just don't want anyone reading this and getting misinformation, no offense.
If you're correcting someone you should probably make sure you are correct first. Butter has both retinol and beta-carotene, just like every other beef product. Cows eating grass have much more carotenoids in the meat/fat than grainfed cows, some batches of tallow have a yellow tint, almost like butter.
I stand corrected, you're right...also, I'm not a beef tallow expert ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, this is the one I use, and it is white, also I don't follow this diet(low vit a), because it seems to lack a lot of essential nutrients, but if anyone is interested in a good beef tallow here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/Beef-Tallow-Finest-Quality-Grade/dp/B01IN68842/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1544899950&sr=8-3&keywords=beef+tallow
Also, I've wanted to say this for a while...when using unsaturated fats for cooking(olive oil), you're going to be ingesting a lot of oxidized/free radicals. Not the best for cooking.
Quote from Guest on December 14, 2018, 12:58 am
Quote from Guest on December 13, 2018, 4:43 pm
Beef tallow is white, has zero fat soluble vitamins in it(and zero carotenes). Also, butter has retinol, not beta-carotene. Just don't want anyone reading this and getting misinformation, no offense.
If you're correcting someone you should probably make sure you are correct first. Butter has both retinol and beta-carotene, just like every other beef product. Cows eating grass have much more carotenoids in the meat/fat than grainfed cows, some batches of tallow have a yellow tint, almost like butter.
I stand corrected, you're right...also, I'm not a beef tallow expert ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, this is the one I use, and it is white, also I don't follow this diet(low vit a), because it seems to lack a lot of essential nutrients, but if anyone is interested in a good beef tallow here's a link: https://www.amazon.com/Beef-Tallow-Finest-Quality-Grade/dp/B01IN68842/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1544899950&sr=8-3&keywords=beef+tallow
Also, I've wanted to say this for a while...when using unsaturated fats for cooking(olive oil), you're going to be ingesting a lot of oxidized/free radicals. Not the best for cooking.
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