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Is most of vitamin A removed through breath and urine, not bile?
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Janelle525 on August 24, 2024, 11:57 am
It's definitely not really an IgG response though. I remember when my son was 2 he had some eczema behind his knees, I thought food allergy like everyone says so I had him blood tested for all kinds of foods. It came back negative for every single one.
It's definitely not really an IgG response though. I remember when my son was 2 he had some eczema behind his knees, I thought food allergy like everyone says so I had him blood tested for all kinds of foods. It came back negative for every single one.
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Janelle525 on August 24, 2024, 12:18 pm
I'm just thinking out loud here. Why would an intolerance (not an allergy) cause skin oozing and peeling? And why was his eczema fluorescent but someone who didn't have eczema not fluorescent?
I'm just thinking out loud here. Why would an intolerance (not an allergy) cause skin oozing and peeling? And why was his eczema fluorescent but someone who didn't have eczema not fluorescent?
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Janelle525 on August 24, 2024, 12:20 pm
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 12:13 pm
Grant isn't overdoing any one food on his 1200-1600 calories per day diet. It's remarkably low in a lot of things. Calcium, thiamine, calories, fat, phosphorus, probably magnesium, allergens; you name it.
It's probably why a lot of the studies showing low calorie diets lead to a longer lifespan; you're getting less bad things.
The anti-meat folks would say he overdid beef. Why do people react to dairy but not beef?
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 12:13 pm
Grant isn't overdoing any one food on his 1200-1600 calories per day diet. It's remarkably low in a lot of things. Calcium, thiamine, calories, fat, phosphorus, probably magnesium, allergens; you name it.
It's probably why a lot of the studies showing low calorie diets lead to a longer lifespan; you're getting less bad things.
The anti-meat folks would say he overdid beef. Why do people react to dairy but not beef?
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Andrew B on August 24, 2024, 12:25 pm
My skin peeling might have been histamine plus moderate vitamin A. There was certainly itching which can be histamine. I've also heard from Meri Arthur that salicylate problems can cause skin peeling too.
My skin peeling might have been histamine plus moderate vitamin A. There was certainly itching which can be histamine. I've also heard from Meri Arthur that salicylate problems can cause skin peeling too.
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Janelle525 on August 24, 2024, 12:35 pm
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 12:26 pm
@janelle525
So if your son's eczema was not caused by anything he ate what do you think it was caused by?
My theory is low vitamin D, my babies only got some skin issues in the winter. But they 'grew' out of it even despite a horrendous diet for a quite a while. Grant believes this proves storage capacity for vitamin A increases as the children get older. In reading through his blog post again, now I can see why winter could cause skin issues regardless of vitamin D if the retinoic acid is seeping through the oil glands and destroying those glands and we need more oils in the winter that could definitely cause issues. It could explain why I only developed dry eye after quitting OJ if my body is now producing too much retinoic acid. My diet has been very low 'allergen' so it couldn't be an increase in allergies.
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 12:26 pm
@janelle525
So if your son's eczema was not caused by anything he ate what do you think it was caused by?
My theory is low vitamin D, my babies only got some skin issues in the winter. But they 'grew' out of it even despite a horrendous diet for a quite a while. Grant believes this proves storage capacity for vitamin A increases as the children get older. In reading through his blog post again, now I can see why winter could cause skin issues regardless of vitamin D if the retinoic acid is seeping through the oil glands and destroying those glands and we need more oils in the winter that could definitely cause issues. It could explain why I only developed dry eye after quitting OJ if my body is now producing too much retinoic acid. My diet has been very low 'allergen' so it couldn't be an increase in allergies.
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 12:50 pm
@janelle525
But it's important to realize here: NOT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE ALLERGIES to these items. Some people go through life eating gluten and dairy just fine. Sounds like you're one of those people.
I also wouldn't implicate allergy as the root cause of dry eyes for everyone. There could be many many reasons for dry eyes I don't think allergies are the sole reason for them.
I am thinking outloud and asking questions, no reason to yell. I obviously understand not everyone will have the same allergies. But there are many problems with believing the cause of disease is allergies. I have bad grass pollen allergies, and yes it does cause inflammation when I'm having an allergic day, but I can't imagine that could destroy my kidneys. I'm asking ya'll to expound on how Grant developed weeping inflamed eczema all over his body from being allergic to dairy but he wasn't allergic most of his life and nothing changed other than he developed kidney disease from the allergy? I'm also asking what causes children to be reactive to dairy, but they grow out of it (even despite pretty awful diets).
Grant has offered a good hypothesis. I'm not hearing a good alternative. Antihistamines don't cure eczema, if the source of the problem is allergies. When I was on antihistamines my itchy peely skin rash got worse not better and my liver enzymes went up and up. (another indication allergies are liver related, histamine intolerance is usually produced in women with a LOT of estrogen, so if you are a man with histamine intolerance consider your body is full of estrogen)
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 12:50 pm
@janelle525
But it's important to realize here: NOT EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE ALLERGIES to these items. Some people go through life eating gluten and dairy just fine. Sounds like you're one of those people.
I also wouldn't implicate allergy as the root cause of dry eyes for everyone. There could be many many reasons for dry eyes I don't think allergies are the sole reason for them.
I am thinking outloud and asking questions, no reason to yell. I obviously understand not everyone will have the same allergies. But there are many problems with believing the cause of disease is allergies. I have bad grass pollen allergies, and yes it does cause inflammation when I'm having an allergic day, but I can't imagine that could destroy my kidneys. I'm asking ya'll to expound on how Grant developed weeping inflamed eczema all over his body from being allergic to dairy but he wasn't allergic most of his life and nothing changed other than he developed kidney disease from the allergy? I'm also asking what causes children to be reactive to dairy, but they grow out of it (even despite pretty awful diets).
Grant has offered a good hypothesis. I'm not hearing a good alternative. Antihistamines don't cure eczema, if the source of the problem is allergies. When I was on antihistamines my itchy peely skin rash got worse not better and my liver enzymes went up and up. (another indication allergies are liver related, histamine intolerance is usually produced in women with a LOT of estrogen, so if you are a man with histamine intolerance consider your body is full of estrogen)
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@jessica2
What is the mechanism for a food allergy to cause no symptoms other than sudden fatigue all of a sudden one day and some stiffness and then rapidly progress to full body eczema? I'm not hearing any real reason for this. And why is dairy always implicated? I found that to be the case for my babies as well when they had patches of eczema it would get inflamed when I had a lot of dairy and it went through my breastmilk, but I never did eliminate it and they eventually grew out of it, never one single patch of skin dryness despite drinking grocery store milk with carrageenan.
What causes a child to outgrow it even despite awful diets?
I've been studying health for 15 yrs it's my main hobby other than gardening and I've literally never heard of a food allergy causing kidney failure. Why are you speaking to me like I can't understand you? What is the mechanism for kidney injury?
@jessica2
What is the mechanism for a food allergy to cause no symptoms other than sudden fatigue all of a sudden one day and some stiffness and then rapidly progress to full body eczema? I'm not hearing any real reason for this. And why is dairy always implicated? I found that to be the case for my babies as well when they had patches of eczema it would get inflamed when I had a lot of dairy and it went through my breastmilk, but I never did eliminate it and they eventually grew out of it, never one single patch of skin dryness despite drinking grocery store milk with carrageenan.
What causes a child to outgrow it even despite awful diets?
I've been studying health for 15 yrs it's my main hobby other than gardening and I've literally never heard of a food allergy causing kidney failure. Why are you speaking to me like I can't understand you? What is the mechanism for kidney injury?
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@jessica2
Sorry we posted at the same time i didn't see you replied to those questions.
@jessica2
Sorry we posted at the same time i didn't see you replied to those questions.
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 3:16 pm
I'm not the one saying eczema is caused by a single factor; and that one thing cures it.
Eczema is multifactorial; there could be different causes in different people.
There are a couple of people here and on other forums suffering from psoriasis/eczema who found they don't get any relief at all from low vitamin A diets. I've read their stories. Andrew got eczema ON a low vitamin A Diet.
So your theory is that kids grow out of dairy allergies because the liver gets bigger? That there was no allergy there, it was all vitamin A? Again I don't think that would explain it properly that would just give them partially filled vitamin A livers and health problems would then show up soon according to your theory if the same diet is eaten and the liver fills up.
There could be many reasons kids grow out of dairy allergies one is the maturation of their immune system, another is simply developing tolerance after exposure.
Grant proposed that kids with eczema 'grow out of it' and then it comes back later is not because the immune system just went haywire again, it's that the liver filled up again. I know you hate my anecdotes but my sister is one of those people. She drank a lot of low fat milk as a kid and had dry skin issues, it went away for the most part and then came back later as eczema on her hands that nothing could calm. I think it went away again after having kids which to me only proves that some of her toxicity just got transferred to the children. I need to ask her about the timeline.
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Jessica2 on August 24, 2024, 3:16 pm
I'm not the one saying eczema is caused by a single factor; and that one thing cures it.
Eczema is multifactorial; there could be different causes in different people.
There are a couple of people here and on other forums suffering from psoriasis/eczema who found they don't get any relief at all from low vitamin A diets. I've read their stories. Andrew got eczema ON a low vitamin A Diet.
So your theory is that kids grow out of dairy allergies because the liver gets bigger? That there was no allergy there, it was all vitamin A? Again I don't think that would explain it properly that would just give them partially filled vitamin A livers and health problems would then show up soon according to your theory if the same diet is eaten and the liver fills up.
There could be many reasons kids grow out of dairy allergies one is the maturation of their immune system, another is simply developing tolerance after exposure.
Grant proposed that kids with eczema 'grow out of it' and then it comes back later is not because the immune system just went haywire again, it's that the liver filled up again. I know you hate my anecdotes but my sister is one of those people. She drank a lot of low fat milk as a kid and had dry skin issues, it went away for the most part and then came back later as eczema on her hands that nothing could calm. I think it went away again after having kids which to me only proves that some of her toxicity just got transferred to the children. I need to ask her about the timeline.
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@jessica2
I like to learn new things as well. But I have been learning about autoimmunity for a long time and I am just not buying the mainstream view that our body is attacking itself. There has to be a reason it is attacking. Attacking foreign protein is the reason for allergic reactions, but at some point the body has to clear those things or yes rampant inflammation is possible with resulting histamine intolerance.
"IgA nephropathy is a rare disease that causes kidney damage when your own immune system produces antibodies in your kidneys."
So that's why we haven't heard about it, they claim it is rare. But eczema and psoriasis are not rare.
One theory is that the gut is leaky and the whole proteins from eggs, dairy, soy and wheat are coming through intact, the body then sees these whole proteins as foreign invaders and begins the allergic response. That doesn't explain then why my son didn't have IgG antibodies to those foods yet had eczema. So we need a new theory in those cases. I think Karen Hurd's theory is plausible that the bile contains all these dead proteins that we're reacting to and they just keep getting recirculated. But it's still going based off the antibody response.
@jessica2
I like to learn new things as well. But I have been learning about autoimmunity for a long time and I am just not buying the mainstream view that our body is attacking itself. There has to be a reason it is attacking. Attacking foreign protein is the reason for allergic reactions, but at some point the body has to clear those things or yes rampant inflammation is possible with resulting histamine intolerance.
"IgA nephropathy is a rare disease that causes kidney damage when your own immune system produces antibodies in your kidneys."
So that's why we haven't heard about it, they claim it is rare. But eczema and psoriasis are not rare.
One theory is that the gut is leaky and the whole proteins from eggs, dairy, soy and wheat are coming through intact, the body then sees these whole proteins as foreign invaders and begins the allergic response. That doesn't explain then why my son didn't have IgG antibodies to those foods yet had eczema. So we need a new theory in those cases. I think Karen Hurd's theory is plausible that the bile contains all these dead proteins that we're reacting to and they just keep getting recirculated. But it's still going based off the antibody response.
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