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Milk alternatives
Quote from tim on February 11, 2019, 11:34 pmQuote from Guest on February 11, 2019, 3:12 pmTea has a ton of sodium flouride, it's not healthy.
Yeah this is true for strong tea however my understanding is that the fluoride is in the form of CaFl rather than NaFl. NaFl is allegedly more dangerous to consume because of it being more absorbable like other Sodium salts.
One can make very dilute green tea and flavour it with lemon juice and honey and serve it cold. It is quite delicious but maybe it is still best avoided due to fluoride.
Unfortunately the flouride in tea is in NaFl form. It is more dangerous than CaFl because it is less stable and more likely to break down into sodium and flouride in the body. Additionally, calcium is an antidote to flouride poisoning.
Quote from Guest on January 11, 2019, 1:44 amForgive me if i'm missing something. The Oatly product I have doesn't mentioned canola oil anywhere in the ingredients. It has rapeseed oil in, which according to nutritional information doesn't contain any Vitamin A, despite being bright yellow.
Again, sorry for my ignorance, I understand there's probably something I'm missing here.
In other words, don't take this away from me, haha! It's such a nice alternative to milk in coffee and tea. I may even prefer it to milk due to the fact it's got more of a creamy quality to it.
Oatly has trace quantities of lutein and zeaxanthin, as stated here.
https://www.checkyourfood.com/ingredients/ingredient/1961/oatly-vegan-organic-oat-drink
Is anyone still drinking oat milk regularly and do they perhaps notice any side effects?
Seems the best solution to this 'diet' is just to go full grant mode and consume the rice, beef, beans etc and to only drink water..
Quote from Keero on July 23, 2019, 4:37 amQuote from Guest on January 11, 2019, 1:44 amForgive me if i'm missing something. The Oatly product I have doesn't mentioned canola oil anywhere in the ingredients. It has rapeseed oil in, which according to nutritional information doesn't contain any Vitamin A, despite being bright yellow.
Again, sorry for my ignorance, I understand there's probably something I'm missing here.
In other words, don't take this away from me, haha! It's such a nice alternative to milk in coffee and tea. I may even prefer it to milk due to the fact it's got more of a creamy quality to it.
Oatly has trace quantities of lutein and zeaxanthin, as stated here.
https://www.checkyourfood.com/ingredients/ingredient/1961/oatly-vegan-organic-oat-drink
Is anyone still drinking oat milk regularly and do they perhaps notice any side effects?
Seems the best solution to this 'diet' is just to go full grant mode and consume the rice, beef, beans etc and to only drink water..
just about every whole grain product has circa 100 mcg of lutein+zeaxanthin per 100 g
I have been eating oats and drinking Oatly daily since december last year without any issues whatsoever.
Can somebody explain to me why some people here consider these trace amounts of lutein found in grains and legumes problematic? I'm genuine curious as non of these foods (oats, lentils, whole grain pasta, etc.) ever harmed me in any way, on the contrast.
In our house we have me (who thrives on milk) and hubs (who doesn't)
I believe that skim milk was used in a Grant-like cure in the olden days, so it is my guess that home-skimmed, raw, pastured, organic cow's milk is the best answer for me. I get it at a farm nearby. http://www.realmilk.com can connect you with a farmer. Even skim from a farmer might have vitamins added--because of "laws"-- good idea to ask. My farm doesn't sell skim. I'm saving the amazing cream for the future in the freezer .
You can see the info here about the skim milk cure https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/white-food-and-an-intriguing-old-fashioned-white-food-cure/
I know many here wonder about coconut -- is it good or bad. Anyways, Hubs uses SO Delicious Dairy Free Organic Creamer for his coffee it has 5 ingredients: Organic coconut milk, filtered water, organic coconut cream, potassium citrate, sodium citrate, gellan gum. I have not asked if they supplement it, I suppose I should. I don't know if those extra ingredients are bad.
Quote from who_am_i on July 23, 2019, 6:26 am...Can somebody explain to me why some people here consider these trace amounts of lutein found in grains and legumes problematic? ...
Hi Who,
I think the short answer is some people have come on this site and said they react to those carotenes. I think it is interesting that some people LOVE oatmeal and others can take it or leave it. I believe our tastes buds often try to steer us. When it comes to hot cereal I'd much rather have cream of wheat (COW) than oatmeal. I realized COW had lots of iron though and I'm looking for a replacement.
Quote from who_am_i on July 23, 2019, 6:26 amI have been eating oats and drinking Oatly daily since december last year without any issues whatsoever.
Can somebody explain to me why some people here consider these trace amounts of lutein found in grains and legumes problematic? I'm genuine curious as non of these foods (oats, lentils, whole grain pasta, etc.) ever harmed me in any way, on the contrast.
I ate quite a lot of oats when I first went low A (about 165g dried weight per day). Partly because they are quick and convenient and partly because I have a pretty small list of foods that I can tolerate and oats is one of them. They also had a positive affect on my bowels. Potato is the only other main source of carbs that I can eat. I believe I was detoxing whilst eating that quantity of oats.
I couple of months low A after reading others experiences I reduced the amount of oats to about 20g per day which I am still consuming. I did notice a more marked detox cycle when I first did this so I think it likely that I am detoxing a little quicker having reduced them.
With this lower level of oats it seems I am getting more lutein and zeaxanthin from the potato and banana I am eating than from the oats so I have decided that on balance for me this is acceptable.
I don't know how this translates to oat milk. How much of the lutein and zeaxanthin goes into the milk? Is it the same % as in the oats? How much are you consuming? Based on my experience and that of others (Orion I think noticed a detox reaction when eliminating oats) I suspect if you experiment and reduce or cut out the oat milk for a few days you will be able to tell if the oat milk is having much of an affect on you in terms of VA content.
I've been drinking a little bit of farm milk right along, but need a more digestible version of milk for my SO. I'm feeling like maybe there are nutritional benefits to a bit of whole milk? I have always intuited that milk helps ME. YMMV!
Has anyone here tried whole lactose free milk or A2 milk in small amounts?
ingredients list for whole lactose free: Milk, Lactase enzyme*, Vitamin D3
pointer to A2 products: (which have a different form of casein)
I tried almond milk to make rice pudding - it tasted fine but I didn’t feel too good after so I’ve stopped using it. If I had to I might occasionally have a small amount in tea (I had cut out tea and coffee very soon after the vaccine as it was too hard on the stomach), in fact I remember saying ‘I’ve gone off coffee’ just after the vaccine before it got really bad and I started having heart palpitations at 4am from the vaccine (not the coffee - they went on for months)
Also, look at this Entomilk insect milk being developed
@60secdocs Entomilk, a dairy alternative bug milk made from black soldier fly larvae and rich in protein, fat, calcium, iron and zinc, is being produced in Cape Town by Leah Bessa -- who also experiments with the substance, turning it into insect ice cream and other foods. #bug #milk #dairy #dairyfree #food
I didn’t realise that - thank you. I thought it might be rapeseed oil or the vitamins they add to it but oxalates makes sense. I’ve had fresh coconut which was fine. Will try rice milk