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Milk alternatives
Quote from Tanveen on August 24, 2025, 1:53 pmI tried almond milk to make rice pudding - it tasted fine but I didn’t feel too good after so I’ve stopped using it. If I had to I might occasionally have a small amount in tea (I had cut out tea and coffee very soon after the vaccine as it was too hard on the stomach), in fact I remember saying ‘I’ve gone off coffee’ just after the vaccine before it got really bad and I started having heart palpitations at 4am from the vaccine (not the coffee - they went on for months)
Also, look at this Entomilk insect milk being developed
https://www.tiktok.com/@60secdocs/video/7235414996497288494?lang=en
These feel like high priced food entertainments. The price is in the problems they bring.
I made rice milk using this recipe - I found that it was like flavoured water rather than milk.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=907178581497704&vanity=61554287741182
Quote from Tanveen on August 26, 2025, 11:03 amI made rice milk using this recipe - I found that it was like flavoured water rather than milk.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=907178581497704&vanity=61554287741182
Why are you looking for substitutes?
To add to tea but I can tolerate some weak black tea now
I will stick with chicken broth.
Your comments make me laugh, then I realised it has been such a long time since I laughed since this whole ordeal began, an important part of healing.
You are not the first to say so. The funny part for me is my comments are routinely serious. Ok well most of them are. Sometimes the funniest ones are the most serious.
I figure my most humorous moments are like when your dog walks up to you with a funny look on his face like he wants to tell you something. You bend down and ask him what he is trying to tell you and he pukes dinner up right at you. And then he feels so much better. Guess I need to change my user name to PukingDog.
Personally I think probably the best thing to do (if you can) is to use real milk dot com and find a farmer who will sell you high quality raw milk and possibly drink it skimmed. Or don 't skim it. I don't. I don't avoid butter although I do try to keep it to small amounts... Is this just to whiten hot drinks? Would it kill you to just use small amounts high-quality raw milk? It will have all the good things that are in whey, (thinking of the whey protein thread here). Its a whole food that makes a whole cow. You know, I once read a story about a guy (in the olden days) who was poisoned and then forever after could only drink milk as his gut was burnt out. And it kept him alive. Why do we think of it as harsh? I'm sure at that time it was high quality raw and not Vitamin-A-and-D-pasteurized-homogenized.
My mother was lactose intolerant and she built back her ability to tolerate over a long time with the advice of a dietician.
Personally I think most milk replacements are kind of odd weird concoctions, although some aren't --as I've been told here. However, I think the ones that aren't are often not very tasty. Or they might be high in oxalates. Or some such that wouldn't be true of skim real milk.
I have to cook for a person who is very badly lactose intolerant, and I use WATER instead of milk every time. For instance, in baked goods. They come out not as soft but don't have any weirdness added.
Occasionally I use broth, as Joe2 says, for savory things like of course, meat sauces.
You made me combine few ideas I learned in last 3 years to extrapolate something I now suspect stronger.
Rat study by pharma researcher needed cohort of gluten intolerant rats. They were setting up a study to prove a new drug for treating gluten intolerance. Scientist overfed wheat to induce gluten intolerance. Got none. Tried a few different ways to get celiacs or leaky gut or whatever symptoms of gluten intolerance. Turned out when they fed rats vA it induced symptoms. They got their cohort of intolerant rats. Turned out just playing with it they could not get gluten intolerant rats without feeding vA.
People and livestock have been killed by overdosing vA and or vD fortification in foods supplied to the public and to livestock. So obviously there are limits to how much vA we can tolerate in a meal or meals. It needs to be monitored closely of the fortifiers kill people too fast and lose their liability shields.
vA is naturally in some foods in greater quantity and quality than other foods. Dairy is a good example of foods naturally higher in vA than others.
So if food fortifiers know that dairy already has vA and that too much vA in their products endangers their profit picture, they are necessarily careful to keep vA content in a narrow range. They avoid making it so high that people wise up the the lies they have been fed for so long. (intentional pun)
So that means that if milk is fortified safely enough to avoid problems, they are checking the vA content before they fortify. That kind of monitoring costs money. Dishonest folk like that are unlikely to spend that kind of money willingly. Chances are they either keep their fortifications levels low or that the foods they fortify are not that high in vA to begin with.
I wonder how much vA there is in regular raw whole milk to begin with. Of course it depends on feed. I have made butter from raw whole milk that was seriously orange of its own accord. That was from cows fed early green spring grass. I have also seen milk produce fairly pale butter. Not as white as the Japanese raise white egg yolks but plenty white.
Either way, I bet that raw whole milk is way lower vA than processed USDA approved milk. I bet that is the biggest difference in people's results with it.
Milk has been heavily pushed all my life. All of the celebrities with their goofy white mustaches. And all derivatives of milk, particularly cheese. When I looked into it, I found that "big dairy" and our government have pushed cheese since ww2. The infamous "government cheese". (https://dairynews.today/global/news/protein-or-propaganda-the-story-behind-america-s-love-affair-with-milk.html)
Growing up, the teenage mutant ninja turtles' irrational love for cheese, as well as that unforgettable pizza scene in "All Dogs Go To Heaven" had a profound effect on me. Also the pizza scene in "Home Alone". Some of Taco Bell's extra cheesy offerings, as well as Pizza Hut's stuffed crust pizza, were the result of funds from "big dairy" and our government (https://www.businessinsider.com/dairy-cheese-marketing-2017-8).
Orange juice only became a thing because a propagandist named Albert Lasker started the "drink an orange" campaign. Heavy bacon and eggs breakfasts only became a thing thanks to the machinations of Edward Bernays. Formerly, Americans mostly had a roll and some coffee for breakfast. A lot of what we think are our ingrained preferences were put there by clever men.