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NAD deficiency - is this a major issue for vA toxicity/detox?
There’s a new article on niacin and NAD in the Love Your Liver Program, which is a welcome addition! 🙂 It was written by a guest author.
Anyone who has access may be interested in reading it.
P.S. I’m sure I’ve stated this elsewhere on this forum many times, but sweating lipofuscin pigments is a symptom I had throughout the time I consider myself “vitamin A toxic.”
@puddleduck, could you explain about that more? (the sweating of the pigments)
What really plagues me, and what I seem to have no control over, are the nights of sleeplessness. Like horrible insomnia, not being able to fall asleep until early in the morning, sometimes as late as 7, 8 or 9 in the morning. It usually happens after a couple of nights of good sleep. It's like my body is on autopilot and nothing I do seems to make me sleepy. Bacterial endotoxin comes to mind as something that affects me. Retonic acid could also be the culprit. My legs sometimes burn, but from inside. I twist and turn in bed, until finally I get up, find comfort in the fact that suffering is the only way to perfect character. And then I distract myself with Japanese kitchen tours. If I ever solve this problem, I'll throw a slumber party for all my unseen helpers who can hear me curse in my most frustrating hour like a dwarf whose beard has been sliced off by some miscreant.
Quote from Hermes on November 30, 2023, 11:38 amWhat really plagues me, and what I seem to have no control over, are the nights of sleeplessness. Like horrible insomnia, not being able to fall asleep until early in the morning, sometimes as late as 7, 8 or 9 in the morning. It usually happens after a couple of nights of good sleep. It's like my body is on autopilot and nothing I do seems to make me sleepy. Bacterial endotoxin comes to mind as something that affects me. Retonic acid could also be the culprit. My legs sometimes burn, but from inside. I twist and turn in bed, until finally I get up, find comfort in the fact that suffering is the only way to perfect character. And then I distract myself with Japanese kitchen tours. If I ever solve this problem, I'll throw a slumber party for all my unseen helpers who can hear me curse in my most frustrating hour like a dwarf whose beard has been sliced off by some miscreant.
@christian, if I were you, I would quit all stimulants. And then see what happens. No more coffee, nicotine, wine/alcohol, tea, chocolate, sugar..
And then when you still cant sleep, just stay in bed and enjoy the darkness. Dont ever raise and put on lights or tech. I think that way you will slowly be able to turn it around and start sleeping again. It is really a bad idea to watch TV or computer/phone in the night.... If I have nights when I cant sleep, I never raise from bed I just lie there. It is very cozy and warm under the blanket and silent and nice time to meditate 🙂
Maybe we need to not see it as a problem if there are some sleepless nights in between. Who knows why, maybe the planets have a certain constellation, or there is a bigger detox going on or its full moon etc. I realize if I just rest in the dark, even if I dont sleep, I feel quite good next day. Resting in the dark is great too!
Dude (Hermes) that sounds awful. I've spent many a wakeful night, too. I like your stoic attitude.
Quote from Inger on November 30, 2023, 11:49 amQuote from Hermes on November 30, 2023, 11:38 amWhat really plagues me, and what I seem to have no control over, are the nights of sleeplessness. Like horrible insomnia, not being able to fall asleep until early in the morning, sometimes as late as 7, 8 or 9 in the morning. It usually happens after a couple of nights of good sleep. It's like my body is on autopilot and nothing I do seems to make me sleepy. Bacterial endotoxin comes to mind as something that affects me. Retonic acid could also be the culprit. My legs sometimes burn, but from inside. I twist and turn in bed, until finally I get up, find comfort in the fact that suffering is the only way to perfect character. And then I distract myself with Japanese kitchen tours. If I ever solve this problem, I'll throw a slumber party for all my unseen helpers who can hear me curse in my most frustrating hour like a dwarf whose beard has been sliced off by some miscreant.
@christian, if I were you, I would quit all stimulants. And then see what happens. No more coffee, nicotine, tea, chocolate, sugar..
And then when you still cant sleep, just stay in bed and enjoy the darkness. Dont ever raise and put on lights or tech. I think that way you will slowly be able to turn it around and start sleeping again. It is really a bad idea to watch TV or computer/phone in the night.... If I have nights when I cant sleep, I never raise from bed I just lie there. It is very cozy and warm under the blanket and silent and nice time to meditate 🙂
I really think chocolate needs to not be done after noon.
I read a funny idea and that is: in the dark, instead of trying to sleep, try to stay AWAKE. Pretend you are keeping watch over the house. Reverse psychology.
@lil-chick it’s called chromhidrosis, and though it can be several different shades (darker colors supposedly indicate stronger oxidation when the lipofuscin was produced), for me it has always been a diluted raw-sienna color. I should take a photo of one of my old-and-now-too-big-for-me white cotton summer dresses, which is thoroughly stained with it due to sweat. All my bedding for years and years has turned the same color...
On the new sheets I bought last year, it’s not nearly as strong as it used to be, but I can still see a difference between the side where I sleep, and the other.
I have also wondered if the raw sienna pigment in stool that seems to happen when some people start the detox is lipofuscin, too, but haven’t found any evidence of whether or not lipofuscin is excreted that way or not. If I remember correctly, the discovery that chromhidrosis is connected to lipofuscin is fairly new.
Lipofuscin is called “the age pigment” and may come from vitamin A:
I used to have chronic insomnia, @christian, and it is just brutal. 😫 Love your lyrical description of the agony, though I wish you weren’t still dealing with that.
Have you ever tried Karen Hurd’s insomnia protocol? (You eat a tablespoon of beans or sip psyllium every 20 minutes until you can sleep again.)
https://ggenereux.blog/discussion/topic/is-ur-pillow-yillow/
Gosh I started this thread ages ago, a few people talked about the different colors they sweat onto their whites, LOL.
Thank you Dudettes for the encouraging words and recommendations. The only addiction I have is cigarettes. Other than that, I'm pretty low on stimulants. When I get up at night I wear blue blocking glasses. I don't think watching TV is a problem then, maybe if the program is too hectic it would affect me negatively. I also sit far away from the screen. Staying in bed is not helpful for me, I can easily lie in bed for more than an hour. EMF exposure at work is a new problem. There is a 5G antenna 50 meters away. We moved, we had the office in another place. Now the only escape is the home office.
I think I've heard a similar idea from Viktor Frankl, who suggested not trying really hard to fall asleep, but on the contrary, trying really hard to stay awake when you can't fall asleep.
Fiber is not something I can tolerate right now. It makes me uncomfortable and bloated. It makes the insomnia worse rather than better. So I haven't tried Karen Hurd's insomnia protocol yet.