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Omega 3 supplementation: to be avoided at all cost
John, I've decided to use sunflower and flaxseed oils as you do; I'll use olive oil, too, as its low numbers should work fine with the other two oils. I appreciate your interesting, well researched posts; your insight that comes from years of battling health issues makes me LISTEN!! Thanks for generously sharing.
Liz, am hoping all goes well with your surgery!!
dwl
How are you mixing the oils and could I ask what brand? These are supposed to be put on food after cooking it. Correct?
I am using UDO brand called flora. They produce all the oils needed separately. Reason I don't buy UDO is because the ratio 2 to 1 in favour of the omega 3s.
Dont cook with them. Just take teaspoons after meals or you can put them on the food.
Quote from DWL on January 27, 2019, 7:08 amJohn, I've decided to use sunflower and flaxseed oils as you do; I'll use olive oil, too, as its low numbers should work fine with the other two oils. I appreciate your interesting, well researched posts; your insight that comes from years of battling health issues makes me LISTEN!! Thanks for generously sharing.
Liz, am hoping all goes well with your surgery!!
dwl
Hi dwl - it's fun to share this stuff, especially with the folks here. Responses like yours make it worthwhile. So, I just started sunflower and flax oils yesterday, and I remembered the "bio-hack" that Johanna Budwig figured out.I don't still have her book, so I can't explain the science, but she always mixed the flax with curd-dairy - something about the lipid and protein combining and thus making the lipid water-soluble, and more accessible to the body. That's how I did it years ago, mostly in cottage cheese, and whipped with a hand-device or in a blender. (I think Liz mentioned doing that too). I'm using Sigi Yogurt instead (zero fat, labeled zero a, and my wife recently verified no retinyl palmitate is added, the milk is delivered directly from the farms to the plant) and it whips up into a real nice texture. The flavor is good. I don't know if the sunflower oil has the same interesting characteristic of combining with protein as the flax does, but the two really blend in well. I use one of those electric Braun hand-held whippers and do it right in the glass container that I eat it from. Makes it real easy. I think Johanna recommended whipping it for a minute or two.
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Quote from Guest on January 27, 2019, 7:34 amHow are you mixing the oils and could I ask what brand? These are supposed to be put on food after cooking it. Correct?
Hi Guest - see response to @dwl for one mixing option. In general, yes they can be mixed if you want, before putting them on foods, or added separately, like over a salad. I don't know how they fare if put on hot food; generally speaking, the cooler they stay the better, since they're delicate. You definitely don't want to cook with them.
Quote from Guest on January 27, 2019, 11:31 amI am using UDO brand called flora. They produce all the oils needed separately. Reason I don't buy UDO is because the ratio 2 to 1 in favour of the omega 3s.
Dont cook with them. Just take teaspoons after meals or you can put them on the food.
Hi Guest - I had bought a bottle of Udo's Oil - the 3-6-9 Blend. I got it because it has Evening Primrose and Mixed Tocopherols in addition to Flax, Sunflower, Sesame, Coconut, Soy Lecithin, and Rice Bran Oil. I originally thought I'd use a bit of it every other day or so, just to get some Gamma Linolenic Acid and Vitamin E into my system. Your comment got me thinking to take a closer look and sure enough, the box says it's a 2:1:1 ratio, so I'll be able to use it as an occasional substitute for the flax portion of the sunflower:flax mix, if I can figure out the right amount and get close to the other ratio of 4:1 Thanks for the heads-up on that.
My bottle of udo's has arrived. Will take 1-2 tsp daily as a supplement. Regarding the "optimal ratio" i will not pay attention to that. I have other sources of o6 in my diet, i.e. sunflower seeds and nuts besides grains and meats. If doing it correctly, I believe all food sources of fat should be included and not just added oils which is way too much of a hassle for me at least. My anal food calculation days are long over 😂 I am sure my body will figure it out and adjust apetite accordingly. I hope the dryness will go away faster with this 🙂
Hi John- that's actually the best way to use it. The ingredients look very promising but the ratio are wrong. If for each tsp of UDO you take 2-3 tsp of sunflower oil then you would be good.
I heard Peskin in a podcast and someone asked him about UDO. Peskin, in usual fashion, was so fiery said that UDO knows better and the ratio is completely garbage. He got so mad lol. Let's not forget that Peskin of course has vetted interest doing consulting and probably getting a cut from companies like YES and oxygen4life ( you can check those products as well). He is fully upfront about it thought , mentions it every interview even without being prompted. I do believe him about the ratio as the body is mostly omega 6 and I read plenty of other sources confirming it but they all assume the American diet covers that part which is why omega 3 is more marketable. I think UDO has this in mind, it's very hard to market an omega 6 dominant product now.
I had cut all nuts and seeds from my diet last year when my skin problems started. My diet was so devoid of oil, it only contained saturated fats. Even fruits provide omega 6s but I had stopped those as well. I am thinking now that might be more of a factor than vitamin A seeing how omega 6 defiency causes dry skin and eczema. Of course I am keeping low VA
Liz- that sounds like a balanced approach. I truly believe the flora products are high quality I have a friend who swears by them and they are highly recommended at the health store I shop at. I think if you add extra 6 from your diet you will be fine. Maybe take in an extra tsp of sunflower to be sure
Ron
Does the Sigi’s yogurt still contain Vitamin A from what the cows eat. That would be awesome to eat yogurt!
I have always read flax is a phytoestrogen. Should we even be concerned of this?